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might be unrealistic but i want to see shauna realize what she's done in season 4. i want her to realize the bloodshed and insanity and resentment she's caused. i want her to see the consequences of her actions and realize what she's done. i want her to be devastated by it.

(spoiler alert: i just love angst.)

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There is something to be said about the way that the Yellowjackets executives consistently ignore Tawny Cypress:( Yeah let’s have 4 sections dedicated to white people and none to any of the incredible BIPOC actors on the show! Sure!

Tawny also consistently being one of the best performers on the show… ok.

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Remembered how Natalie’s mom talked about her at her funeral and now my night is ruined💔

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The fact that this is the same person will forever be so insane to me. Season 3 Shauna is still season 1 Shauna, and season 1 Shauna is still season 3 Shauna. The other Yellowjackets still somewhat look like themselves, Misty’s hair just got longer, Tai just cut hers off, Van just has scars, and Nat’s roots just grew out into her natural color. But Shauna on the other hand, she LOOKS like she’s been through hell and back. She physically looks the most traumatized out of all of them. Trauma literally changes your appearance it’s INSANE. My poor tragic fucking baby💔💔💔💔💔

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Lottie Matthews is my favorite cryptid

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ugh bitches be mad just bc i serve lottienat whimsigoth ethel cain lottie matthews solya southern gothic fiona apple yellowjackets realness

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Cheerleader!Mari

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I need the Bronte/Louise haters to understand that she is you.

She falls for Joe's tricks even though she already knows what he's done going into it. She still finds a way to push the blame away onto anything or anyone to justify why Joe is the way he is, just like the audience.

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Bronte is all of us. Let's be fucking real. She's literally THE chronically online girl with a difficult home life who uses the internet for escapism. Whether she was pretending to be someone else or if it was her projecting her inner vulnerabilities, it doesn't mean she is not representative of a large chunk of the online sphere. I agree with the sentiment that it should have been someone from the past to destroy Joe Goldberg but why is everyone scrutinizing this poor girl for no reason. She knew what he had been doing and couldn't help but fall for it. Isn't that our whole point of view as viewers? This mob of Joe defenders cannot separate Penn's attractiveness from a character. And I was a Beck hater but I think what made her so special was that she was literally just a girl. She had hopes, dreams and she was flawed but she was incandescent. I read somewhere that Love was Joe's equal and Kate was the opposite of what he had ever been. Marienne (imo) was what he thought he could be, a flawed altruistic and confident parent who strives to be better for their child. Bronte is a fangirl who's accepted his darkest parts (as opposed to Love, who challenges and brings that part out of him). Stop criticizing the dumbness, the validity, the beauty, the intelligence, and the survival instincts of these women because they are victims of a person and a society that we actually live in.

If you think about it, we are the most immersed in Joe's head from the first season to the second season's finale. After the glass shatters with Love, we see things a little more clearly throughout the third one cause we have Love. He loses the plot in Season 4 hence Rhys Montrose. And Season 5 he has officially lost control over what we see, hear and believe.

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I just finished watching the final season of You. I really like Bronte and idfc if the majority of the fans hate her character, it just proves the whole point of the ending scene. Also, Kate’s character arc was so beautiful, she carried this season tbh.

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Because with you, love has a price. This is where it was headed the whole time. Peak romance.

YOU | 5.10 "Finale"

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just finished you season 5, and i’m seeing a lot of bronte hate so here are my thoughts. i’m probably just rambling but—

bronte is a personification of the way the audience tends to treat joe. we’re all very, very much aware of the way joe is. the things he’s done. and yet we still fall victim to his deceptive narration, no one who’s watched the show can deny they’ve ’rooted for joe’ at one point or another. it’s because we are getting the entire narrative from HIS perspective, regardless of what we see happening on screen. and yes joe has killed some truly despicable people who had it coming, ron and hendy being the biggest ones, those are times we can sort of root for him.

bronte knows everything he’s done, she’s been following it all for years. and yet she still falls for him and falls victim to the classic “tragic poor sweet guy who just wants to protect the people he loves but goes way too far” trope. all of this season has been about tropes, and how people are drawn to the trope of these toxic, borderline abusive yet “protective” men in media and how real they can actually be. bronte knew how much horrible shit joe had done, and yet let herself fall too deep into this fantasy to the point she’d forgotten what it all had been for in the first place. it was shitty of her to stick with him despite everything but i think getting her perspective of things in the finale spelled it out that she felt like she needed to “write his ending”. not for her, but for beck, for marienne, for kate, for love, for candace, for every woman that he’s hurt.

bronte is a cautionary tale, of how we romanticize violent, toxic men, and how that can bleed into one’s perception of actual love when you lose yourself in fantasies. when you know someone is so bad for you, and bad to others around them, you hold onto that glimmer of hope that maybe despite everything there’s still something good in them.

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creating bronte and showing what beck was really like, and not through the lens of her abuser, was actually a really beautiful decision and i love this twist a lot. to see how much she had to offer the world so plainly.. like this is so important

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I want to shout this to the rooftops

i always wondered what would be the most satisfactory way to wrap YOU up and lowkey assumed that the finale would not be some sort of perfect culmination to the whole story.

and boy, was i wrong...

the finale of YOU s5 was perfect. it surpassed my expectations for a great ending bc it went beyond the show's assumed formula and became a self-aware, raw and surprisingly feminist meta commentary on the show itself, joe goldberg, his victims and the real world realities of the victim/predator dynamics.

throughout the season, i wondered what was the point of introducing a character like louise. was it to show once again that joe will always find a flaw in his "soulmate" and continue the pattern of his predatory behavior?

yes, but more importantly, it all clicked and made sense when the finale revealed the point of louise to be about HER, not joe.

louise is not a random chick whose life and story is split in "before joe and after joe". she is an echo of beck. through louise we see that beck was not just a tragic heroine in joe's story, she was someone who left an impact on people in her life such as louise.

she is not the perfect victim or heroine. she has some moments of internalized misogyny, thinking that she is smarter than those women who fall for toxic men. she believes that she can fix joe. she fantasizes about being saved and dominated by him, giving him control to build her up bc she does not know who she is and has self-esteem issues, struggling to love herself without a lover's validation.

in some sense, she represents joe's perfect victim; in some sense, she represents the audiences who romanticize him. and she is the one who snaps out and sees herself clearly, thus seeing joe as he truly is and becoming his ultimate reckoning.

and with her, we see joe as he is as well. a pathetic misogynist with mommy issues who does not accept anything he deems selfish in women he preys upon. a predator who kills his prey once she does not reflect the image of himself to him he wants to see. someone who does not take accountability for harming others, always making excuses for himself. his mask is finally off, he is naked.

once louise confronts him and takes her voice back, demanding joe to admit the truth, the story takes off the romantic lenses that reminded more or less intact throughout the show and turns into a pure horror of brutality and violence.

but joe can not kill louise. metaphorically, it's bc he does not have power over her anymore, she found her own power in herself. power that is found through self-acceptance and love for all the victims who were silenced by joe. she declares that she is not bronte built in his fantasy, she is louise.

i actually teared up when louise had a vision of beck autographing her books and then it cut to an older lady, showing the lifetime that was taken away from her.

in the end, we recognize what joe refuses to recognize - that he is responsible for his loneliness. yet, he is not wrong when he breaks the forth wall and confronts the audiences for participating the culture that blames the victims and gives power to the abusers.

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i always wondered what would be the most satisfactory way to wrap YOU up and lowkey assumed that the finale would not be some sort of perfect culmination to the whole story.

and boy, was i wrong...

the finale of YOU s5 was perfect. it surpassed my expectations for a great ending bc it went beyond the show's assumed formula and became a self-aware, raw and surprisingly feminist meta commentary on the show itself, joe goldberg, his victims and the real world realities of the victim/predator dynamics.

throughout the season, i wondered what was the point of introducing a character like louise. was it to show once again that joe will always find a flaw in his "soulmate" and continue the pattern of his predatory behavior?

yes, but more importantly, it all clicked and made sense when the finale revealed the point of louise to be about HER, not joe.

louise is not a random chick whose life and story is split in "before joe and after joe". she is an echo of beck. through louise we see that beck was not just a tragic heroine in joe's story, she was someone who left an impact on people in her life such as louise.

she is not the perfect victim or heroine. she has some moments of internalized misogyny, thinking that she is smarter than those women who fall for toxic men. she believes that she can fix joe. she fantasizes about being saved and dominated by him, giving him control to build her up bc she does not know who she is and has self-esteem issues, struggling to love herself without a lover's validation.

in some sense, she represents joe's perfect victim; in some sense, she represents the audiences who romanticize him. and she is the one who snaps out and sees herself clearly, thus seeing joe as he truly is and becoming his ultimate reckoning.

and with her, we see joe as he is as well. a pathetic misogynist with mommy issues who does not accept anything he deems selfish in women he preys upon. a predator who kills his prey once she does not reflect the image of himself to him he wants to see. someone who does not take accountability for harming others, always making excuses for himself. his mask is finally off, he is naked.

once louise confronts him and takes her voice back, demanding joe to admit the truth, the story takes off the romantic lenses that reminded more or less intact throughout the show and turns into a pure horror of brutality and violence.

but joe can not kill louise. metaphorically, it's bc he does not have power over her anymore, she found her own power in herself. power that is found through self-acceptance and love for all the victims who were silenced by joe. she declares that she is not bronte built in his fantasy, she is louise.

i actually teared up when louise had a vision of beck autographing her books and then it cut to an older lady, showing the lifetime that was taken away from her.

in the end, we recognize what joe refuses to recognize - that he is responsible for his loneliness. yet, he is not wrong when he breaks the forth wall and confronts the audiences for participating the culture that blames the victims and gives power to the abusers.

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You know there is irony in the fact of YOU being a female-written show watched widely by females and watching people go, "she's the hottest victim" or "yeah, he downgraded so hard with her" or "she's his stupidest love interest..."

Why, are we comparing the women victims when the abuser is right there in every story?

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Love your honesty 🩷

im gonna say something that's probably a bit controversial but. up until the last ep of S4 of You, i really wanted to believe Joe could change for the better. i deadass justified every kill. but after killing an innocent college kid, i thought that was my last straw. but THEN in S5 i fell for it again when i saw he "just wanted to be a good husband and dad" etc and especially when he started crying in the cage, it made me feel sorry for him again. and that's the thing. i really wanted to believe he was just deeply traumatized and misunderstood and just like Bronte, i really believed that he only had good intentions and maybe he just went about it the wrong way and didn't actually mean harm to any of those he cared about, but just like her, i really thought there would be a way to "fix him" and i secretly really hoped there would be a good ending for him. bc he was just deeply hurt and needed help. and tbf he probably does.

but up until Marianne's little speech to Louise/Bronte, i'd been willingly blind to all the actual hurt he'd caused. but then, bc of Louise's change of mind i was able to see that all of them had been right about him.

and that's the thing about toxic relationships. you keep on believing they're not as bad as they all make it sound bc you feel like "you know them better," and you know "they don't really wanna hurt anyone," or "it's all bc of their own trauma," or "they're just hurt and misunderstood," and you keep making all these excuses, but just bc they're hurt themselves, it gives them no right to go around abusing others, or not being held accountable for their actions. and no matter how much you hold on to that hope that you'll be The One to change them/fix them bc you're oh so special and different, at some point you gotta wake up from that fantasy and cope with the reality of who they really are. no matter how "good" you think they could be or have been towards you. bc if they're willing to hurt others like that, there's no reason they wouldn't turn on as easily as they did with others.

mannn this show was like a slap to the face and a punch in the gut and a broken ankle and a million stabs all at once.

and that ending???? his commentary on society??? how they still send him love letters even after everything??? mannnnnn. loved it.