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I need Oscar to get nasty

2016 repeat anyone ?

I mean just of the driving we will never have a brocedes again

After the race, my mom said to me that Oscar acts like McLaren’s dog and on top of that, he’s got no balls… and honestly, I agree. If he keeps behaving like this, he’s not going to win the championship. I get that it’s Monaco, but it’s seriously worrying how he follows every command with a smile.. But whatever, we’ll see how it goes. But I need to see an Oscar who is serious and selfish, because so far… I don’t like what I’m seeing

And I hope he’s having conversations with the team about his pit stops and strategies. I really hope he is, because he’s not going to get far with them otherwise.

Sorry for the negativity, but I’m not going to pretend it was a super great race. Sure, it’s great he was on the podium, but if he really wants to win this, something has to change

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#both but George is manifesting it WAYYYY more

one or the other (not both)

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Ok once again im gonna break this down so it’s easier to comprehend

1) how dare you 😂- lease don’t make me out to be some massive heartless bitch or call me vile

As someone who was bullied everyday at school and by family family members ( and abused by them in every way ) I do feel sorry that lando got bullied - but that does not give an excuse to be a prick or mean you had a hard life . I’m talking about his upbringing the way he was raised by his family . Bullying has got nothing to do with that

You clearly didn’t get my point- lando makes out that comes from hardship , financial hardship and has had to work for everything he’s ever done

He makes out like he’s from a rough background

And I’m telling you as someone from Bristol who HAS experienced that hardship that that is not what lando has come from

Lando comes an insane amount of wealth and privilege but he never admits that

That is my argument which you clearly didn’t understand the first time hope this helps

Also I’m using max as an example because I do support max and you(lando fans) seem to want to crucify him and Oscar

Lando said in DTS point blank that he had a hard upbringing because he was bullied and max had it so easy especially when it came to getting into f1

I call that bullshit

Lando comes from such vast wealth and a supportive family who paid for his junior career

Who’s only difficult was getting bullied - which does suck but doesn’t mean you’ve had a hard LIFE

Vs max who’s been abused since he was a child and came from a violent and broken home and everyone knows that

I’d rather be lando with all my money and my mansion and my private school and my horses than max getting abused

2) my point is I don’t care if you don’t say anything - ignorance it’s dangerous

But it’s not as dangerous and publicly praising someone’s bad comments

I can pretend that Oscar doesn’t support mark Webber and therefore I’m not driven to either

The second Oscar publicly says he agrees with and supports webbers statements then I will go after because he has a large platform . Lando has done that and so I am Oscar hasn’t made that mistake yet

Staying silent isn’t the answer but the bar for f1 is so low that I will take the silence over dangerous words

3) am I talking about you personally ? Do I know you? Have I ever met you? No

I’m taking about lando fans AS A WHOLE

His fan base absolutely coddles him and treats him like a child

Also please don’t make out like I dismissed his mental health work when all I said is that HIS TEAM (not him) weaponises it

I’ve been on antidepressants since I was 17

My mother killed herself when I was 14 I’ve had multiple suicide attempts- I’ve got depression anxiety and PTSD cause I’ve been through ACTUAL HARDSHIP

Please spare me the mental health talk I don’t need it from a random stranger who doesn’t know me

I’ve praised lando for his mental health advocacy as I said above if you read it is that I can’t imagine how stressful it must be for lando and that I do think he needs to talk to someone

But two things can be true at once

Lando does need help and McLaren use his mental health as a shield to deflect from criticism

4) I’m using Seb and Lewis as examples because THEYRE THE ONES YOU COMPARE HIM TO

once again not talking about you specifically just in case you think it’s about you personally I mean lando fans as a whole

You guys love to compare him to Vettel

And in the media he gets called the next Hamilton

I’m saying that if you’re going to Chuck those big comparisons out there they better fucking stick

And they’re not

Because lando hasn’t done any best as much, as big, or as good a work as the two aforementioned drivers

I’m not using them to tear lando down

But if you guys wanna compare them I will compare them in every sense

And lando can’t hold a candle to those two

That’s what I was saying

5) who am I defending ? Max? I know you don’t know me personally but I have been VERY critical of max verstappen

His association with the piquets is something I’m uncomfortable with - like Oscar’s with Webber

But again until max puts something out into the world that’s dangerous and tells other what to think I’m not gonna make it an issue

Plus as I said above it’s clear that max is a victim and if you cant recognise that ….

I think thats vile

Have a nice day ☺️😁

A message for the McLaren girlies :

I don’t care how good you think he is (he’s overrated btw and not as good as Oscar. If f1 were a spec lando wouldnt be in the top 5 but not my point)

I don’t care how much of a silly little goofy guy he is (also he’s a 25 year old grown man y’all need to stop infantilising him)

If you are a woman, a POC, queer or marginalised in ANY way

YOU SHOULD NOT SUPPORT LANDO NORRIS!!!!!!!

Because he has actively shown support- and told other to respect and admire- people who would actively see harm down unto you and to your loved ones

He does not deserve any semblance of praise or respect you give him

This goes beyond f1 - people like that shouldn’t be put on a pedestal just because they’re fun

And I know this can be said for many drivers - but none are as big as lando and it’s bullshit

Instead of showing your support for lando ‘trump supporter’ Norris can I instead direct you to Sebastian Vettel? He said society REGRESSED when trump was voted a second time - he just held races for women in Saudi Arabia in fact. Or Lewis hamilton? Who cares so much about marginalised groups that he had to be told to stop protesting in f1

I’m not saying people have to be perfect

And you do have the right to believe what you want and support who you want

But there’s a line

And lando had crossed it

By supporting the man who is helping fund a genocide - who tried to overthrow the government- who calls people aliens if they don’t look like him - WHO RAPED A WOMAN!!!!!

That’s your guy???????

I would ask you to take a hard look in the mirror cause I wonder what that says about you

#btw please share this I need as many McLaren fans to see this is as possible cause I need them to straighten up and wise up

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George had a rough weekend- only fair that Alex pays for date night 🥰

GEORGE RUSSELL ALEX ALBON I HATE YOU BOTH

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Can you read???? Can you understand what you read???

Did you properly read any of my replies or just gloss over them to start properly arguing with me?

I’ll reply in order to make it clear for you:

1) I don’t have an issue with lando being rich as shit - most of the come from very privileged backgrounds

HOWEVER lando is a special case- cause he acts and wants to make out that he comes from hardship

I’m from Bristol - lando and I were born in the same hospital I know the school he went to and let me tell you he doesn’t care from hardship

Ok he may have been bullied and I’m sorry for that but that doesn’t mean he had such a hard life

Be on food banks

Have your electric get shut off and the bailiffs come knocking

Lost someone to a ketamine overdoes or a stabbing - that is what’s happening in Bristol and that is not what lando comes from

My issue is that he tried to act like his life has been so hard and not recognising his own privilege

2) yes mark Webber is a piece of shit and his comment about trans people is disgusting

Yes Oscar is managed by mark but Oscar has never publicly shown support for what Webber said or has done

The second he does I will criticise that

Oscar could be a massive transphobe behind closed door that’s fine you have that right

The second you take that public is when I will go after you - which is why I’m doing it to lando cause he took it public

3) omg did you really not read my replies - I said that I don’t care how much lando apologies or says he doesn’t support trump

The one time he did voice support WE ALL HEARD IT and lando has a huge platform of young impressionable people he needs to be careful with his words

And Oscar did not ONCE show any support for trump he simply said no comment which is what lando should’ve done

4) I’m not asking for every driver to be a saint it’s why i especially praise Vettel and Hamilton because they do good with their voices

WHAT IM SAYING IS

If y’all want to act like lando is this perfect little cherub that is such a good guy

Then he should be doing those good things and that high level of activism that we see from Hamilton and Vettel

BUT HE DOESNT

You are hyping up and ride or dying for a man (a grown ass man that you treat like a child) that’s hasn’t earned it through this words or actions

Have a lovely day ☺️

A message for the McLaren girlies :

I don’t care how good you think he is (he’s overrated btw and not as good as Oscar. If f1 were a spec lando wouldnt be in the top 5 but not my point)

I don’t care how much of a silly little goofy guy he is (also he’s a 25 year old grown man y’all need to stop infantilising him)

If you are a woman, a POC, queer or marginalised in ANY way

YOU SHOULD NOT SUPPORT LANDO NORRIS!!!!!!!

Because he has actively shown support- and told other to respect and admire- people who would actively see harm down unto you and to your loved ones

He does not deserve any semblance of praise or respect you give him

This goes beyond f1 - people like that shouldn’t be put on a pedestal just because they’re fun

And I know this can be said for many drivers - but none are as big as lando and it’s bullshit

Instead of showing your support for lando ‘trump supporter’ Norris can I instead direct you to Sebastian Vettel? He said society REGRESSED when trump was voted a second time - he just held races for women in Saudi Arabia in fact. Or Lewis hamilton? Who cares so much about marginalised groups that he had to be told to stop protesting in f1

I’m not saying people have to be perfect

And you do have the right to believe what you want and support who you want

But there’s a line

And lando had crossed it

By supporting the man who is helping fund a genocide - who tried to overthrow the government- who calls people aliens if they don’t look like him - WHO RAPED A WOMAN!!!!!

That’s your guy???????

I would ask you to take a hard look in the mirror cause I wonder what that says about you

#btw please share this I need as many McLaren fans to see this is as possible cause I need them to straighten up and wise up

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Oh no problem you seem very very nice and actually have normal opinions and an approachable attitude (sorry I’ve spent way too long today arguing with people 😅☺️) (if I seem like massive bitch I apologise)

Honestly this post wasn’t meant for you - someone I can have a civil conversation with

It’s meant for the lando fans who will blindly support and defend him even when there is valid criticism out there

The people who won’t listen to you and instead are quick to attack you personally for your opinions

I wanted this post to reach them - to get them to tell me why they support him and hopefully if they can actually to accept to accept criticism

I too believe you can like someone and also critique them but I don’t see that happening with Norris fans

It’s why I made the post

I hope you don’t feel attacked or anything that truly was not my intention and I apologise if that’s how I came across I didn’t mean any harm

I don’t think we’ll come to a middle ground but I do respect your opinion and your right to that opinion

Have a lovely day 😊

A message for the McLaren girlies :

I don’t care how good you think he is (he’s overrated btw and not as good as Oscar. If f1 were a spec lando wouldnt be in the top 5 but not my point)

I don’t care how much of a silly little goofy guy he is (also he’s a 25 year old grown man y’all need to stop infantilising him)

If you are a woman, a POC, queer or marginalised in ANY way

YOU SHOULD NOT SUPPORT LANDO NORRIS!!!!!!!

Because he has actively shown support- and told other to respect and admire- people who would actively see harm down unto you and to your loved ones

He does not deserve any semblance of praise or respect you give him

This goes beyond f1 - people like that shouldn’t be put on a pedestal just because they’re fun

And I know this can be said for many drivers - but none are as big as lando and it’s bullshit

Instead of showing your support for lando ‘trump supporter’ Norris can I instead direct you to Sebastian Vettel? He said society REGRESSED when trump was voted a second time - he just held races for women in Saudi Arabia in fact. Or Lewis hamilton? Who cares so much about marginalised groups that he had to be told to stop protesting in f1

I’m not saying people have to be perfect

And you do have the right to believe what you want and support who you want

But there’s a line

And lando had crossed it

By supporting the man who is helping fund a genocide - who tried to overthrow the government- who calls people aliens if they don’t look like him - WHO RAPED A WOMAN!!!!!

That’s your guy???????

I would ask you to take a hard look in the mirror cause I wonder what that says about you

#btw please share this I need as many McLaren fans to see this is as possible cause I need them to straighten up and wise up

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Wow it’s like you didn’t read what I said

I said this can apply to most drivers but lando has the biggest following so it applies to him most

I said none of the drivers are perfect that goes for Seb and Lewis but they are trying to do good and be better in their lives which is more than most of the drivers so I’m willing to support them more and show leniency cause I at least know they’re trying

I’m a verstappen fan- do you know how much I’ve called him out for his bullshit? Not saying anything about Horner or Nelson piquet’s comments or anything else

And I’m not trying to be moral police for ordinary life but there is a difference between liking grid girls and showing praise for a president who raped a woman and is a notorious misogynistic creep -worse than Horner!!!

My issue is when you take things into the public

I don’t care if you’re the biggest piece of shit in private at home - cause that’s private

The SECOND you take that into the open world into the public, is when I’m allowed to criticise you for it

I’m sure that most of the drivers privately suck - they’re spoiled little rich boys

But most of them keep their mouth shut in public

Not lando though - and so I get to criticise him for his words because he chooses to put them out there

And my biggest issue is that at I can’t openly put this criticism out there without people harping down my throat about why I’m wrong (not saying you’re doing that but lando fans as a whole)

We should be able to validly criticise all drivers but for some reason that doesn’t stretch to lando as much as other drivers

We validly criticise max when he does wrong and people are more than happy to jump on the bandwagon

But when anyone tries to do the same to lando there’s a higher level of defending him (infantilising him) (and McLaren weaponising his mental health)

A message for the McLaren girlies :

I don’t care how good you think he is (he’s overrated btw and not as good as Oscar. If f1 were a spec lando wouldnt be in the top 5 but not my point)

I don’t care how much of a silly little goofy guy he is (also he’s a 25 year old grown man y’all need to stop infantilising him)

If you are a woman, a POC, queer or marginalised in ANY way

YOU SHOULD NOT SUPPORT LANDO NORRIS!!!!!!!

Because he has actively shown support- and told other to respect and admire- people who would actively see harm down unto you and to your loved ones

He does not deserve any semblance of praise or respect you give him

This goes beyond f1 - people like that shouldn’t be put on a pedestal just because they’re fun

And I know this can be said for many drivers - but none are as big as lando and it’s bullshit

Instead of showing your support for lando ‘trump supporter’ Norris can I instead direct you to Sebastian Vettel? He said society REGRESSED when trump was voted a second time - he just held races for women in Saudi Arabia in fact. Or Lewis hamilton? Who cares so much about marginalised groups that he had to be told to stop protesting in f1

I’m not saying people have to be perfect

And you do have the right to believe what you want and support who you want

But there’s a line

And lando had crossed it

By supporting the man who is helping fund a genocide - who tried to overthrow the government- who calls people aliens if they don’t look like him - WHO RAPED A WOMAN!!!!!

That’s your guy???????

I would ask you to take a hard look in the mirror cause I wonder what that says about you

#btw please share this I need as many McLaren fans to see this is as possible cause I need them to straighten up and wise up

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I said MCLAREN weaponises landos mental health are you dense ? Did you not read what I said properly? Clearly lando has issues- he likes his own hate comments and is his own worst enemy he clearly needs someone to talk to . I can’t imagine the amount of stress he is under and how anxiety causing that is.

BUT

that doesn’t excuse his behaviour or words AND McLaren does use it to deflect from valid criticism towards lando

A message for the McLaren girlies :

I don’t care how good you think he is (he’s overrated btw and not as good as Oscar. If f1 were a spec lando wouldnt be in the top 5 but not my point)

I don’t care how much of a silly little goofy guy he is (also he’s a 25 year old grown man y’all need to stop infantilising him)

If you are a woman, a POC, queer or marginalised in ANY way

YOU SHOULD NOT SUPPORT LANDO NORRIS!!!!!!!

Because he has actively shown support- and told other to respect and admire- people who would actively see harm down unto you and to your loved ones

He does not deserve any semblance of praise or respect you give him

This goes beyond f1 - people like that shouldn’t be put on a pedestal just because they’re fun

And I know this can be said for many drivers - but none are as big as lando and it’s bullshit

Instead of showing your support for lando ‘trump supporter’ Norris can I instead direct you to Sebastian Vettel? He said society REGRESSED when trump was voted a second time - he just held races for women in Saudi Arabia in fact. Or Lewis hamilton? Who cares so much about marginalised groups that he had to be told to stop protesting in f1

I’m not saying people have to be perfect

And you do have the right to believe what you want and support who you want

But there’s a line

And lando had crossed it

By supporting the man who is helping fund a genocide - who tried to overthrow the government- who calls people aliens if they don’t look like him - WHO RAPED A WOMAN!!!!!

That’s your guy???????

I would ask you to take a hard look in the mirror cause I wonder what that says about you

#btw please share this I need as many McLaren fans to see this is as possible cause I need them to straighten up and wise up

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Charlene was down BAD for Seb - and she never tried to hide it

What a legend id be the exact same

Remember the wink???

I commend Charlene for not giving a single fuck about actual Monaco men (Charles & Nico)…she really only cared about her special little boy

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Did this …. Make me like vowles again??????

The Kevin’s Magnussen play of slowing everyone else down?

The Fernando Alonso of it all???

Slay Williams

Williams doing the most abysmal strategy fucking up the race for everyone else slowing it down for it all for three whole points only to at the end complain about how bad the race was how horrible the new rule is

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That’s the point - I WANT YOU TO SEE IT !!!! I WANT YOU TO REFLECT ON YOUR WORSHIPPING OF LANDO NORRIS!!!!!

And yes max is not perfect- I’ve been very critical of his relationship and association with the piquets just ask my discord

BUT

Max has not PUBLICLY (key word here) told other people to go support a piece of shit

I’ve got no issues with lando supporting whoever or whatever

But the SECOND you take that into the public I’m allowed to agree or disagree, praise or scrutinise

Ok lando has spoken about women racing - GOOD

But has he attended an f1 academy race ? Has he done any sort of activism ? Lando has a MASSIVE PLATFORM he should start using it if you wanna act like he’s a saint

He’s also the guy whose team weaponises his mental health to deflect from criticism

The same guy who despite being rich as shit - never had to work for anything - said he had it harder than max verstappen who was abused and as you rightfully pointed out - groomed

I don’t care how many times lando says he doesn’t support someone

The one time he did show support- people were listening

A message for the McLaren girlies :

I don’t care how good you think he is (he’s overrated btw and not as good as Oscar. If f1 were a spec lando wouldnt be in the top 5 but not my point)

I don’t care how much of a silly little goofy guy he is (also he’s a 25 year old grown man y’all need to stop infantilising him)

If you are a woman, a POC, queer or marginalised in ANY way

YOU SHOULD NOT SUPPORT LANDO NORRIS!!!!!!!

Because he has actively shown support- and told other to respect and admire- people who would actively see harm down unto you and to your loved ones

He does not deserve any semblance of praise or respect you give him

This goes beyond f1 - people like that shouldn’t be put on a pedestal just because they’re fun

And I know this can be said for many drivers - but none are as big as lando and it’s bullshit

Instead of showing your support for lando ‘trump supporter’ Norris can I instead direct you to Sebastian Vettel? He said society REGRESSED when trump was voted a second time - he just held races for women in Saudi Arabia in fact. Or Lewis hamilton? Who cares so much about marginalised groups that he had to be told to stop protesting in f1

I’m not saying people have to be perfect

And you do have the right to believe what you want and support who you want

But there’s a line

And lando had crossed it

By supporting the man who is helping fund a genocide - who tried to overthrow the government- who calls people aliens if they don’t look like him - WHO RAPED A WOMAN!!!!!

That’s your guy???????

I would ask you to take a hard look in the mirror cause I wonder what that says about you

#btw please share this I need as many McLaren fans to see this is as possible cause I need them to straighten up and wise up

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The narrative just isn’t good this year

Lando doesn’t have the backstory he’s a spoiled little rich boy who hasn’t faced hardship

The narrative for him sucks

What’s the difference between him and Lance stroll winning ????

no you see, even though there were no overtakes, last year’s monaco gp was actually more interesting and entertaining than this one because charles leclerc saw The grandstands he saw built as a kid growing up now rise for him and for the first time in 93 years this fabled race is won by one of their own. Charles Leclerc wins the Monaco grand prix to achieve his dream.

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A message for the McLaren girlies :

I don’t care how good you think he is (he’s overrated btw and not as good as Oscar. If f1 were a spec lando wouldnt be in the top 5 but not my point)

I don’t care how much of a silly little goofy guy he is (also he’s a 25 year old grown man y’all need to stop infantilising him)

If you are a woman, a POC, queer or marginalised in ANY way

YOU SHOULD NOT SUPPORT LANDO NORRIS!!!!!!!

Because he has actively shown support- and told other to respect and admire- people who would actively see harm down unto you and to your loved ones

He does not deserve any semblance of praise or respect you give him

This goes beyond f1 - people like that shouldn’t be put on a pedestal just because they’re fun

And I know this can be said for many drivers - but none are as big as lando and it’s bullshit

Instead of showing your support for lando ‘trump supporter’ Norris can I instead direct you to Sebastian Vettel? He said society REGRESSED when trump was voted a second time - he just held races for women in Saudi Arabia in fact. Or Lewis hamilton? Who cares so much about marginalised groups that he had to be told to stop protesting in f1

I’m not saying people have to be perfect

And you do have the right to believe what you want and support who you want

But there’s a line

And lando had crossed it

By supporting the man who is helping fund a genocide - who tried to overthrow the government- who calls people aliens if they don’t look like him - WHO RAPED A WOMAN!!!!!

That’s your guy???????

I would ask you to take a hard look in the mirror cause I wonder what that says about you

#btw please share this I need as many McLaren fans to see this is as possible cause I need them to straighten up and wise up

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He earned it

so max still get to hit tonight. good for him

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Zak brown just suffer honestly choke

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Expect us to think you’re hot shit and the greatest driver ever- but you were begging for your teammate with 4 year less experience to come save you…..

This your boy McLaren fans???

He won from pole......in Monaco....and still asked for help from Oscar. He really can't do anything

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And yet lando is still underperforming in the car

are you kidding me that McLaren suddenly pulling THREE SECONDS IN ONE LAP??????????? fucking ILLEGAL