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how does everyone feel about the whole "trolls hate fashion" thing

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the beta kids each representing a different stage of grief. a dead john is in denial about the situation until he can't refute it anymore, rose sees john die and goes into a pure rampage, dave will do anything just to fix things he will fly into a panic over that he can make it work he can fix it he can make things better please just let him try etc., jade is faced with a deep emptiness when she loses her dream self / jadesprite starts sobbing immediately upon creation. something about the fact that none of them represent acceptance

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daves god tier title is actually so fucking cool. knight of time. “protects and fights for time and protects and fights through time”. thats awesome. and realizing how often he did that in the comic not as part of his god tier ascension but his arcs and actions in the early acts

for example

here we have him both protecting john through time and protecting the path of the alpha timeline

he also protects his all friends from being unprepared for having less than 24 hours before the reckoning by utilizing time travel to serve everyone in the session and doing the most legwork. he claims to have experienced about 3 days total playing sburb whereas it took 1 day linearly. he had to assist jade with frog breeding through time travel since the beta kids were short on time, literally helping her plant the seeds for next universe they will escape from the game to. hes very considerate of protecting time itself, the duty of following through in timeloops. literally committing to the bit even if it would kill him

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Thinking about how Tavros' animal communion powers might have made it really easy to get by compared to other trolls, at least before Vriska fucked him over

Maybe that's why he chose to live in a highblood area and make FLARP one of his hobbies, he didn't have many reasons to fear for his safety back then

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My little brother offered some excellent insight into the debate of Pages and Knights either being active or passive. Here is what he based his argument on (and also what I base my classpect arguments on):

Active/passive can be thought as selfish/selfless, or, in other words, in combat, do you buff yourself or do you buff others?

Your god tier represents the best version of yourself

Now, I tend to cite Pages as an active class and Knights as a passive class because that’s how they act in the webcomic.

My brother had a different theory: Pages are a passive class because they start out as “selfish assholes” and must learn to become more selfless in order to become their best self.

Likewise, Knights are an active class because they start out as people pleasers and must learn to value themselves so they can become their best self.

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So, my little brother recently read Homestuck, and his opinions on the webcomic shed a lot of light on what makes Homestuck enjoyable to so many people, in addition to helping me determine the question of “should I recommend Homestuck to other people?”

My brother detailed his opinions in an essay where the first line is “Is Homestuck Good? No.” and proceeded to detail what Homestuck is, what it’s strengths are, and where it falls short.

He said Homestuck’s strengths are it’s characters (which he notes is Homestuck’s greatest strength), it’s soundtrack, and it’s classpect system.

The weakness are that the cast of characters is too large (so inevitably some fall to the wayside), it’s too long, and the plot is so meandering that it shouldn’t even be considered a story.

He expressed disappointment that some of his favorite aspects of Homestuck weren’t built upon much (such as the classpect system and the powers one may possess)

So, ultimately, his essay boiled down to the idea that Homestuck is less of a story and more of an experience. If you read Homestuck hoping for a good story, you’re going to be disappointed because Homestuck isn’t really an individual story. It’s a tapestry of a bunch of different stories of characters that almost feel like real people, and it is, ultimately, a very unique experience as far as media goes, and it’s something you won’t find anywhere else.

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Usagi Tsukino from Sailor Moon is a Page of Life. I know she's referred to as a "Muse of Hope" in the show, but she has much stronger connections to motifs of Life (food, royalty, agency) than Hope. And she starts off in the show as extremely weak, relying heavily on the help from others until she's strong enough to take things on alone, a process that takes her a long time, but she ends up as the most powerful character. I'd go into more detail, but there are only so many characters in an ask.

That’s fair X3 Even with the weak start I do wonder about Page-ness, but then again I can’t assess her myself because I’ve not actually watched Sailor Moon.

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Hey, not sure if this interests you, since it doesn’t fit your hcs, but Knight being an active class and Page being a passive one allows for some symmetry in the kid session? Each iteration and each family would have 2 active and 2 passive players.

Hey I love hearing about other people’s HCs, even if they don’t fit mine! :D Symmetry is always a good thing to go for, but I also personally find it a bit restrictive, a lot of people have come asking if uneven Player Sessions are even possible, based on the idea of always needing a balanced team, so I like when things end up a liiiiittle bit uneven.

Still, a good and fun point.

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kate left the team, check the homestuck reddit for more info. it's one of the most upvoted posts right now

I found it, and can confirm this is the most amazing information I have ever been given in my entire life. 

I definitely think it’s sad, though, that so many of the responses are people relieved/gleeful that she’s finally gone. How toxic of a person do you have to be that the majority of responses to your leaving post is “oh thank fuck”, and not “we’ll miss you”? 

There’s a lot of people being hopeful that the comic will improve now that she’s stepping down. And I admit, I’m in that boat, too - if removing her toxicity from the comic helps to make it better, to eek out the transphobia and the abuse apologism and the victim blaming, then holy shit I might just actually get back into it again and enjoy the damn story they’re trying to tell. 

I am a little sus at the concept that we don’t have a timeframe for when she’s leaving, and that she might also still help out here and there, but her being removed from anything relating to direction of the project is genuinely thrilling news.  I hope this takes us somewhere good in the future!

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Have you ever wondered why Kate, writer of Homestuck^2, is a despicable fucking human and should be extracted from the fandom like the rotten, festering tooth she is? 

Yes? Well, good news, everyone!

Here is a series of screenshots from her various accounts showing just how terrible she really is. 

This includes:

Harassing minors online

Trivialising the fact that her actions have caused people to attempt suicide

Claiming that no male characters in Homestuck are victims (completely ignoring Dave, a literal abuse victim, and Tavros, also an abuse victim)

Claiming that Vriska has never done anything wrong despite quite literally being the reason that Tavros is paralysed, Aradia is dead, and Terezi is blind

For some reason, making the Tavris meltdown about Vriska being a transwoman, despite Vriska not being coded trans at that point and the clear intent of it to be Vriska being so disgusted that she’s merged with Tavros that she’d rather die

Calling someone who pointed out the hypocracy of Vriska later prototyping Tavros and GCAT a transphobe

Having actually really terrible takes on what is or isn’t transphobia, and seemingly deciding that transmen/masc-aligned enbies aren’t actually people

Carrying on from this: Deeply transphobic, actually, which is highly ironic.

Claiming that June Egbert can be a “bi lesbian”, thereby showing that she actually cares about representation about as much as she cares about men

Claiming that we, as a fandom, need to grow the fuck up because deserve nothing we do not create, and outright stating that she’s writing HS^2 in the most upsetting way possible as a result of this ideology

Refusing to understand that her childish actions are childish because she’s a grownass woman (apparently, being one of the youngest on the HS^2 team justifies her attacking literal minors)

Somehow not understanding why people were upset with dogdick Jade (being a transwoman, you’d think she’d recognise the inherent transphobia in seeing a cis woman being given a dog penis)

For some reason, claiming that an actual, real life, living transwoman is cis, like some form of conspiracy - again, despite being a transwoman herself

And the list goeth on! I am, to say the least, fucking disgusted and infuriated that these are the sort of people writing Homestuck^2. Bitter, violent, phobic, outright antagonistic people with no care for the origins of the comic and no care for the fandom that helped forge it. 

Homestuck^2 will never improve. Not when we have people like this writing it.  

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if you join the unoffical mtap discord server, sometimes you’ll get to see me analyze mtap characters to death by attempting to classpect them

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this is genuinely the funniest page in homestuck to me. nothing will ever top this. it’s peak comedy

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pretty ironic that rose, the one who sees light (represented symbolically as the sun) is the only strilonde that doesn't wear shades, huh

Extra ironic, how clouded and hazy her eyes are right now.

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The quiz made me put way too much thought into it but, The Waste class actually works rather well as an actual class with different aspects. A waste of Mind could be somebody who just constantly asks questions for the sake of asking questions, not interested in the actual answers, a waste of Rage would be somebody who incites others to become angry but not at any cause, but just causing rage itself, not even reacting to their rage, a waste of time would be pretty much self explanatory, (1/?)

a good example for a “waste of time” would be the page where you have to listen to the clapping for caliborns performance end. Hussie being a Waste of Space actually fits rather well for him in the comic, because pretty much every appearance he makes has no actual plot relevancy or importance, pretty much just existing to waste the readers time, having them listen to hussie instead of actually progressing the comics plot.I feel like Waste would absolutely work as a regular non-joke class (2/2)

X3 You really are dedicated huh.

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okay, so Dave, like the other Strilondes, uses his left hand for a lot of things. he’s sometimes seen carrying his sword with his right hand, but not using it. now look at this.

he seems to be using his left hand for most things,

except for…

could it be… the secret to SBAHJ

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I am curious as to how did you interpret Void as being tied to societal norms

If Light is Truth, Relevancy and Good Fortune, then it makes sense for obtuse, constraining and arbitrary societal norms and systems would fall under the realm of Void. Equius is a Heir, one easily influenced and Changed, and potentially Consumed by their Aspect, and he allows the Hemospectrum to shape a great deal of his ideals, not knowing how to otherwise parse his persona. Similarly, Horuss, a Page of Void, Serves Himself Void in becoming the perfect societal blank slate of a Blueblood in Beforus, until he can’t take anymore and realizes that persona is just not for him. And Roxy, a Rogue, a Class well known for abstracting themselves from reality through their Aspect, fantasizes about “last man and woman on Earth” scenarios with Dirk, pushily questions him about the possibility of how ‘their kids would look like’, even despite the fact she knows he’s gay, because she’s drunk and depressed and kind of trying to find solace in something she’s attached herself to from the Old World before the Flood.

So, indeed, Rogue of Void = Outlaw of Gender.

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part of what makes alt callie so interesting to me is that she is literally The Good Guy. Like, she was made to purposefully contrast Lord English, who's the villain. But she doesn't really come across like it? She gives me the vibe that she's only "good" in its basic definition, but serves it as an obligation rather than from any true morality. Like Caliborn, she doesn't hesitate to use other people to achieve her purpose, such as possessing Jade. She's very interesting, imo.

The thing about Calliope is that she is Good. But she is not… Personal kind of Good. She’s not someone who will go out of her way to help someone that fell down the stairs and has a bleeding nose. She’s a “God” kind of Good. She’s Above things, she sees the Big Picture, and is not concerned by petty mortal things like ‘Emotions’ and ‘Attachments’. She will do anything in order to fulfill her purpose and take down what she perceives to be an evil threat, even if in the process she abandons a Timeline in the midst of war, and possesses a girl whose friends are extremely concerned and worried for.

She is, also, less impartial than she says she is. She is actually petty when arguing with Dirk, and favors things such as the Trickster Lollipop despite it being bad for Humans. Biases that show through her otherwise Flawless facade and, ironically, ‘humanize’ her more, but that goes exactly against the kind of person she’s attempting to be.

So yeah. She’s a really interesting character.