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“Having an affair” is such a funny way to describe cheating. There is marriage and then there is the situation. I had a wife and then an event happened to me.
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Nothing kills me more than ORV beginning on a subway that's been stopped, with Kim Dokja's first thought being that a suicide must've occurred, his favorite story ending and beginning on that symbolism, having originally found it due to his own attempt, and believing that the end of it would be the end of him, only for it to have come to life before his eyes, whilst his emotions and sense of self were snuffed deeper due to the fourth wall, to forge his own story with companions that he could have only dreamt of having before the world was ruined, to sacrifice himself over and over again despite his companions pleas for his unending death sentence to cease, just to then subject himself to the cruelest form of irony by not getting off that damned subway, where both life and death seemed to mock his inevitably doomed existence.
Oh and let's not forget that this subway was set for eternity, to face himself for what he has always felt he was, a monster, hypocrite, but despite that, Yoo Joonghyuk, that damned protagonist, the same one that had been there for Kim Dokja for years, that was subjected to becoming this reader's source of comfort, and was becoming aware of that over the millennium of floating through space, searching endlessly for the sole reader of his story, was by all illogical odds, able to find his reader, his Dokja, and like time and time again, after failing to due so numerous times after Kim Dokja acquired the fourth wall, was finale able to persuade Dokja from out of that train of thought, the literal train of thought, knowing for the first time what he meant too Kim Dokja, his companion of both life and death, fiction and reality.
They're such freaks for this, I love them ♡
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occasionally i log onto ao3 to check on the state of the orv tag and then i see the kim dokja infantilization fics and im like yep, we’re still doing this. the state of the world hasn’t tipped off its balance yet.
sometimes the world becomes too much and i check on whether people still make those fics and i nod my head in appreciation. never stop. it comforts me knowing it’s a constant thing in life that doesn’t disappear
#i felt this down to my bones#i curse and whine about mischaracterization all the time but at the end of the day#i value people having fun writing terribly because it's still people having fun#it's not for me and that's not necessarily a bad thing
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Tired of ppl calling kdj an office worker all the time so i made this
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honestly. if i was yoo joonghyuk and there was a man who, through the sheer love he had for my story, which overflowed into every part of both of our lives, taught me how to rebuild my connections with my loved ones and start living again. and then he killed himself in front of me. and then i found out he was alive but might be in trouble so i traveled to the demon realm and defeated a demon duke in his name, saving his life. and then i got to reunite with him finally and he was like 'ahh, you dastardly bastard you, doing all of this so you can kill me by your own hand'. well lets just say horses wouldnt be called horses anymore
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orv being a celebration of storytelling as an artform just for its own story to be butchered and altered into capitalistic mainstream media slop is actually sick and thinking about it makes me nauseous
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In case it wasn't made obvious already, Kim Dokja's main four constellations represent the main reader demographics for this kind of story: Sun Wukong is the one who's here for the actual plot and interesting story. He doesn't really care what path it takes (even if he gets displeased at times) because he's invested in how fresh and new it is, and he's a big fan of Kim Dokja as a character. He's the kind of fan boy who genuinely loves the story and character, but in the normal way a fan would for any series. You'll see him most involved with stuff that makes the story more interesting, but not generally at the cost of what suits the MC (KDJ), so he often agrees with KDJ's actions and stuff. Uriel is obviously the fujoshis. She genuinely loves the story and the MC and would be the first and last person to die on the hill for him. SnS understand that fujos are a powerful force, and just because they wanna shove their blorbo barbies together doesn't mean they treat the story or characters any less. They know the fujos love the characters more than anything else, and that's exactly what Uriel is invested in. So you'll see her most invested in Character Moments and actions that revolve around morals (she's an angel, after all. She wants KDJ not to become evil because then she feels troubled supporting him and his growth). ABFD is the powerscaling dudebro and the teenagers (ofc). He likes KDJ doing cool shit and causing all kinds of chaos since your usual MCs can just blow things up and survive the consequences. He gets bored if nothing's happening, but he gets invested enough that he's willing to ride it out. But overall he's here for the big dramatic moments of things going boom and powers looking real cool. That, and the relatability to Kim Dokja as a troubled character. Secretive Plotter represents the readers looking for the deeper meta stuff. They like the clever writing tricks, and the schemes that the story can come up with. They like the deeper moments of the story (whether character or plot-wise) and they're more invested in unraveling the world and the lore than the plot itself. The brilliance and the "never know what happens next" is what they love most about the story and are the most invested in, and picking up the pieces of the puzzle that lets them figure out how the MC ticks is part of their favorite past time.
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some people are soo weird and will refuse to call you double names (like mary-anne) because its too "inconvenient" and "long" meanwhile gigachad Korean webnovel authors have characters called Breaking the Sky Sword Saint that are called the full fucking title every time
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anti-orv au where the world was originally an apocalypse until the aswt novel came to reality and now everyone has a 9-5
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"I am you." "Me?"
"Why not me? "Me?"
"You took my regression." "Me?"
"You're gay." "Me?"
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during the Disastor of Floods, 41st shin yoosoung spends the entire fight telling her opponents a story. she tells them the story of her own suffering, and of the suffering of their alternate universe versions who she knew and loved and watched die - from her perspective pointlessly - for yoo joonghyuk. they don't understand or care about her story, but she tells it anyway
after so long suffering with no one to see or hear her, so long writing a story no one was reading (which orv establishes as a very cruel hell) shin yoosoung is desperate to make her voice heard. yoo joonghyuk however, doesn't even wait for her to tell him what her journey was like, just immediately starts demanding information. shin yoosoung desperately wants to have her story acknowledged by him, but she knows that the man who sent her off never would, and it drives her into a rage. she will end his story. she will be the one who leaves a mark on him this time.
however, there is one person in this fight who shin yoosoung doesn't have to tell her story too. someone among this sea of strangers (or at least, who see her as a stranger) who knows her well enough to read her very thoughts. kim dokja has read her story countless times, and is the only one who sympathizes with it brazenly from the get go. it's because of him, and the way he changes yoo joonghyuk, that shin yoosoung is able to get her message heard. because he hears it first. he refuses to let her story end misunderstood, chasing her all the way to the underworld.
i was initially skeptical of how kim dokja manages to talk so many of his opponents to his side when i first read orv - its a trope i very much have a love hate relationship with. but i think part of why he is able to pull it off so often, and why so many people find themselves following him, is because of the deep love he has for stories. every story, every discarded character, every rock on the ground. everyone wants someone who will treasure their crude lump of a story
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really good that the scenario which follows the Disastor of Floods, which establishes both disasters and incarnations as merely puppets of the scenario, is one in which kimcom become disasters themselves. once again orv creates a dichotomy between those who deserve our empathy and those who dont, and then smashes that dichotomy in two. the sympathy 41st shin yoosoung ellicits in us makes it so satisfying when kimcom can do what she couldnt and refuse their role. things that can be changed indeed. even if this small person couldn't be saved, others can. sing shong are so good at building this staircase of a story that goes around and around, building on itself each time.
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