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Commenting under ship art with "let them be besties" and your headcanons is like not cool

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I mean in RR and Batgirl they did reconcile and Convergence Batgirl had them end up together as well:

And yeah for the bernard stuff, the breakup was Tim dumping her for no reason, acting like a jerk to her when she tried to be friends, ghosting her, telling other people not tell her stuff about his life, lying that she was ghosting him, and he only apologized cuz he met her by accident, was forced to team up with her by his friends, and she almost died.....he then proceeded to introduce her to bernard without even asking her first while she is still getting over him........Not to mention how Tim says stuff behind like he was 'settling before bernard and stephanie was a reminder of how he avoided examining himself on purpose and that is why he was invested in the romance'. Keep in mind this is after tim told her after their 'reconcillation' she was "everything he wanted and more". There is also how Tim really doesn't interact with her unless it's hero stuff or bernard despite us being told they are "best friends". The whole thing comes across as Tim just being an asshole like you said, specifically like he resents Stephanie as some sort of closet for him to avoid yet feels bad about it but doesn't want to y'know actually really talk with Steph and his way of dealing with it just using Stephanie to validate his new relationship......

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can I ask why so many people ship timsteph? I get that it's an iconic relationship and that it meant a lot to both of them, but when they were dating, it mostly felt like Steph was waaay more into Tim than he was into her. i'm just wondering if I'm missing something.

Hi, thanks for the ask!! I’m not sure if I’m the right person to answer this question as my feelings on TimSteph can vary, but I’ll give it a go!

There are absolutely cases where Steph will express a lot of affection towards Tim that just is not seemingly equally reciprocated. I guess for me it’s kind of just a difference in how they express affection? For one, Tim’s not nearly as physically affectionate as she is, and Steph is such as lovebug it’s hard to match her constant litany of cute nicknames. Steph is a lot more forward - when she likes someone, it’s normally pretty obvious, just like when she doesn’t like someone. But Tim in contrast is generally much more reserved with his feelings, which might contribute to why their relationship might come off more one sided at times. But I think you can really see that Tim has his own way of showing he cares about Steph through his dedication to her, and his internal thoughts.

When I think of timsteph moments that made me like the relationship, Robin #111 comes to mind, and not just because it’s one of my fav steph issues ever. It’s just a sweet moment that showcases Tim’s willingness to listen to Steph and some depth to their relationship.

But it also showcases a lot of the flaws in their relationship. The issue ends with Steph bouncing an idea off Tim, getting shut down, and then lying to him about her plans to drop it and go home.

The relationship is admittedly messy - Steph is wildly insecure she will be cheated on and it bleeds through in little moments and big ones. She’s also closed off sometimes, and she lies to Tim on occasion. On the flip side, Tim frequently dismisses and underestimates Steph, condescended towards her and that’s not even touching the whole ‘I can’t tell my girlfriend my identity’ thing going on for half their relationship which adds fuel to the fire of a lot of Steph’s issues. But it’s that complexity and messiness that makes the relationship interesting to me, I guess! I don’t know if that’s what makes it a good relationship but the complexity and its importance to Steph’s character is what makes me interested in talking about it!

Hope this was a little helpful, and thanks for the ask! If anyone with timsteph thoughts wants to add on or elaborate or whatever, go for it!!

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To go into more detail the breakup was Tim dumping her for no reason, acting like a jerk to her when she tried to be friends, ghosting her, telling other people not tell her stuff about his life, lying that she was ghosting him, and he only apologized cuz he met her by accident, was forced to team up with her by his friends, and she almost died.....he then proceeded to introduce her to bernard without even asking her first while she is still getting over him........

can I ask why so many people ship timsteph? I get that it's an iconic relationship and that it meant a lot to both of them, but when they were dating, it mostly felt like Steph was waaay more into Tim than he was into her. i'm just wondering if I'm missing something.

Hi, thanks for the ask!! I’m not sure if I’m the right person to answer this question as my feelings on TimSteph can vary, but I’ll give it a go!

There are absolutely cases where Steph will express a lot of affection towards Tim that just is not seemingly equally reciprocated. I guess for me it’s kind of just a difference in how they express affection? For one, Tim’s not nearly as physically affectionate as she is, and Steph is such as lovebug it’s hard to match her constant litany of cute nicknames. Steph is a lot more forward - when she likes someone, it’s normally pretty obvious, just like when she doesn’t like someone. But Tim in contrast is generally much more reserved with his feelings, which might contribute to why their relationship might come off more one sided at times. But I think you can really see that Tim has his own way of showing he cares about Steph through his dedication to her, and his internal thoughts.

When I think of timsteph moments that made me like the relationship, Robin #111 comes to mind, and not just because it’s one of my fav steph issues ever. It’s just a sweet moment that showcases Tim’s willingness to listen to Steph and some depth to their relationship.

But it also showcases a lot of the flaws in their relationship. The issue ends with Steph bouncing an idea off Tim, getting shut down, and then lying to him about her plans to drop it and go home.

The relationship is admittedly messy - Steph is wildly insecure she will be cheated on and it bleeds through in little moments and big ones. She’s also closed off sometimes, and she lies to Tim on occasion. On the flip side, Tim frequently dismisses and underestimates Steph, condescended towards her and that’s not even touching the whole ‘I can’t tell my girlfriend my identity’ thing going on for half their relationship which adds fuel to the fire of a lot of Steph’s issues. But it’s that complexity and messiness that makes the relationship interesting to me, I guess! I don’t know if that’s what makes it a good relationship but the complexity and its importance to Steph’s character is what makes me interested in talking about it!

Hope this was a little helpful, and thanks for the ask! If anyone with timsteph thoughts wants to add on or elaborate or whatever, go for it!!

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The thing is....they were doing best and found it be enough hence the above panels as it showed them overcoming the flaws they had before and be fullly stable......the way they broke up was off panel with Tim just callously dumping her and the reason given was cuz Tim is bi (uhh......), plus we never got to see Stephanie's perspective on the romance/breakup at all and the recent batgirls series said she is still getting over him but never went into details over it. It doesn't help they have Tim saying stuff behind Steph's back like he was "settling for her and she was a reminder of how he avoided examining himself on purpose and that is why he was invested in the romance"....

How the romance ended was inorganic and made no sense with the recent development and it didn't even invovle any flaws they had before. You could say it involved Tim's poor communication but like I said he had a whole arc overcoming and outgrowing that and demonstrating that with his romance with Steph in the above panels, so bringing that back off panel to justify the breakup is just inorganic and regression and it seems even DC knows it as they barely have Tim and Steph interact anymore or try to frame it as it being a closet for Tim to avoid.

can I ask why so many people ship timsteph? I get that it's an iconic relationship and that it meant a lot to both of them, but when they were dating, it mostly felt like Steph was waaay more into Tim than he was into her. i'm just wondering if I'm missing something.

Hi, thanks for the ask!! I’m not sure if I’m the right person to answer this question as my feelings on TimSteph can vary, but I’ll give it a go!

There are absolutely cases where Steph will express a lot of affection towards Tim that just is not seemingly equally reciprocated. I guess for me it’s kind of just a difference in how they express affection? For one, Tim’s not nearly as physically affectionate as she is, and Steph is such as lovebug it’s hard to match her constant litany of cute nicknames. Steph is a lot more forward - when she likes someone, it’s normally pretty obvious, just like when she doesn’t like someone. But Tim in contrast is generally much more reserved with his feelings, which might contribute to why their relationship might come off more one sided at times. But I think you can really see that Tim has his own way of showing he cares about Steph through his dedication to her, and his internal thoughts.

When I think of timsteph moments that made me like the relationship, Robin #111 comes to mind, and not just because it’s one of my fav steph issues ever. It’s just a sweet moment that showcases Tim’s willingness to listen to Steph and some depth to their relationship.

But it also showcases a lot of the flaws in their relationship. The issue ends with Steph bouncing an idea off Tim, getting shut down, and then lying to him about her plans to drop it and go home.

The relationship is admittedly messy - Steph is wildly insecure she will be cheated on and it bleeds through in little moments and big ones. She’s also closed off sometimes, and she lies to Tim on occasion. On the flip side, Tim frequently dismisses and underestimates Steph, condescended towards her and that’s not even touching the whole ‘I can’t tell my girlfriend my identity’ thing going on for half their relationship which adds fuel to the fire of a lot of Steph’s issues. But it’s that complexity and messiness that makes the relationship interesting to me, I guess! I don’t know if that’s what makes it a good relationship but the complexity and its importance to Steph’s character is what makes me interested in talking about it!

Hope this was a little helpful, and thanks for the ask! If anyone with timsteph thoughts wants to add on or elaborate or whatever, go for it!!

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On the point about Tim and Steph wondering what they would be like as older and what a relationship would be like there, I'm not sure if you read the Rebirth Run but last time we saw Tim and Steph they were like this:

A major point in Rebirth for Tim and Steph was them overcoming a lot of the flaws they had previously both as individuals and romance wise and it making them a stronger more healthier couple in the end (prior to their off panel breakup which went against all of their growth given how it involved Tim not communicating and he is still doing the same flaws in his solo as he did before such as keeping secrets, and thinking he knows best) Per the sunset panel above, we saw Tim learn to be more communicative and not take everything on his own and think he knows best and have Steph as an equal on his side. Steph overcame her insecurities about her place in the Batfamily and where she stands with Batman:

Tim and Steph did reach a point where they were healthy and stable young adults who overcame their flaws and grew to make something special/beautiful....until dc decided ruin it.

can I ask why so many people ship timsteph? I get that it's an iconic relationship and that it meant a lot to both of them, but when they were dating, it mostly felt like Steph was waaay more into Tim than he was into her. i'm just wondering if I'm missing something.

Hi, thanks for the ask!! I’m not sure if I’m the right person to answer this question as my feelings on TimSteph can vary, but I’ll give it a go!

There are absolutely cases where Steph will express a lot of affection towards Tim that just is not seemingly equally reciprocated. I guess for me it’s kind of just a difference in how they express affection? For one, Tim’s not nearly as physically affectionate as she is, and Steph is such as lovebug it’s hard to match her constant litany of cute nicknames. Steph is a lot more forward - when she likes someone, it’s normally pretty obvious, just like when she doesn’t like someone. But Tim in contrast is generally much more reserved with his feelings, which might contribute to why their relationship might come off more one sided at times. But I think you can really see that Tim has his own way of showing he cares about Steph through his dedication to her, and his internal thoughts.

When I think of timsteph moments that made me like the relationship, Robin #111 comes to mind, and not just because it’s one of my fav steph issues ever. It’s just a sweet moment that showcases Tim’s willingness to listen to Steph and some depth to their relationship.

But it also showcases a lot of the flaws in their relationship. The issue ends with Steph bouncing an idea off Tim, getting shut down, and then lying to him about her plans to drop it and go home.

The relationship is admittedly messy - Steph is wildly insecure she will be cheated on and it bleeds through in little moments and big ones. She’s also closed off sometimes, and she lies to Tim on occasion. On the flip side, Tim frequently dismisses and underestimates Steph, condescended towards her and that’s not even touching the whole ‘I can’t tell my girlfriend my identity’ thing going on for half their relationship which adds fuel to the fire of a lot of Steph’s issues. But it’s that complexity and messiness that makes the relationship interesting to me, I guess! I don’t know if that’s what makes it a good relationship but the complexity and its importance to Steph’s character is what makes me interested in talking about it!

Hope this was a little helpful, and thanks for the ask! If anyone with timsteph thoughts wants to add on or elaborate or whatever, go for it!!

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New Claire & Dante content from me 🥳❤️

Death Island Claire is kinda boring to draw, but this was fun nevertheless 🍓 Hope you all like it, looks like they have gotten quite the fanbase over the years 🥰

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Day 1 Throughout the years Day 2 Summer || Escape Day 3 Comic Callback || Brick Day Day 4 Hero || Civilian Day 5 Status Quo || Roleswap Day 6 Break up || Make up (out) Day 7 AU || Free Day

Interpret these prompts as loosely and abstractly as you wish! Get weird with it! Have fun! And thank you to everybody who submitted prompts! Tag your submissions with #timstephweek25 to participate and check the rules before hand

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I'm buying the bi time Funko and the Stephanie one and making them kiss, fuck you Bernard

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Now that WFA season 3 has ended....their writing of Duke was abysmall. From the using him just to introduce the threat of the Joker, to benching him, to not giving him a proper arc or really dealing with/adressing his trauma (which they did for Jason and Babs over many episodes), giving his We Are Robin stuff to Damian and then sidelining him again til the very end.....he was treated as badly as Finn from Star Wars....I mean all the stuff he did was just a set up for everyone else. Like I mentioned the We Are Robin stuff already (which is INSANE as they didn't do the same with Jason and the Outlaws) but his whole "proposal" to Luke Fox was just him introducing/explaining the support idea as a new setting as later we see Steph volunterring at it and Tim and Babs coordinating it, like with We Are Robin as well.....it's jarring and feels the writers really don't want to use him (which makes it two-faced when they have characters praise Duke as this "amazing guy" when they don't even show it)....It's clear the crew doesn't have a black creative on the team and really needs one. 3 seasons and treating the black main character this poorly.

Oh boy... WFA season 3 Duke where to start...

The WFA writers clearly read We Are Robin. They introduce the We Are Robin characters and reference things (like Alfred starting WAR) that isn't common fanon knowledge. And yet you hit the nail on the head as to how much they've wronged him this season. I know a lot of people have complained about WFA S3, but the Duke stuff is just by far the worst thing to me. I'm really sorry for giving them a chance when they first introduced WAR because I've never been so disappointed in my life 😭😭😭.

I'm only reading free eps but urgh... your ask is not inspiring me with any confidence it'll get better. Crimes WFA has committed against Duke THIS SEASON ONLY:

Used him to kickstart the Joker plot and then refused to delve into either his previous Joker trauma or his current one

Benched him. FOREVER. It's been over nine months I'm so tired 😭 I remember back when I complained about this people told me to wait, and GUESS WHAT I DID. AND HE'S STILL BENCHED

Sidelined We Are Robin to be a Damian story. You are SO right that that didn't happen for the Outlaws - even if you hate that part, at least it was a Jason story!!! We Are Robin didn't even get to interact with Duke that much!!!!!!

Wrote We Are Robin horrendously. None of them have personalities. You'd be hard pressed to realise that Riko is a Batgirl fan, or that Dre and Duke don't get along. Also Izzy should've said something about that gf they gave Duke in the first season because now that WAR is canon are we going to address that?? Do the WFA writers even remember their old Duke writing???

You & me have really been through the wringer this season it's been hit after hit 😭😭😭😭. What particularly upsets me is that the We Are Robin ep (144) is good by itself, but it just led to so much worse stuff afterwards it's unbelievable.

I AM SO SORRY ZEROPEGASUS WHOEVER YOU ARE you did not know what was coming. The false hope that ep gave me crashed and burned immediately afterwards. What gets me is that WFA is the perfect place to give Duke more space and care than modern comics, but instead the WFA writers put less care than comics EVER did. He is the main Black character!! THEY USED HIM TO START THE ENTIRE SERIES!!! HE'S IN BOTH THE BANNER AND THE CORNER OF THE WEBTOON PAGE!!!!! It is astonishing how little they care about Duke and how much WFA fans let them get away with it!!!!!!

If anyone wants to see a more detailed breakdown of s3 Duke they can see this post. But yeah it's a shame, and frankly an insult, that their Duke writing hasn't improved at all since the series started.

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Adding to this. The reason fanon doesn't care about Duke is cuz he's black and that by default makes him non-shippable in fanon eyes. We all know how fanon largely ignores black characters when it comes to shipping....there is a reason why fanon ignores people like Luke Fox and Jace Fox yet salivates over someone like bernard........

Sometimes it feels like the only two traits fandom knows about Duke is 'poor' and 'meta', and it really, really shows.

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it drives me crazy that steph’s comfort meal is mashed potatoes and tim’s is shepherd’s pie. a meal made with mashed potatoes. shepherd’s pie needs mashed potatoes to be complete. mashed potatoes needs shepherd’s pie to feel appreciated as more than a simple dish.

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twitter is so unserious because why are so many people having conniptions over others having different sexuality headcanons for FICTIONAL CHARACTERS. making it sound like it's as bad as being a nazi or pro shipper u ppl are insane 😭

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timstephweek is COMING.

July 7 to July 13.

Mark your calendars.

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Sorry, my bad. I apologize for intruding

& it's not just the fact that Cass said she loved Steph it's that she specifically said "love you TOO" which implies that A) steph said it first & B) this is how they habitually end EVERY call, so what brombal has done here is establish a COMFORTABLE & OPENLY AFFECTIONATE relationship status quo with only ONE MORE ISSUE to go until june & clearly this means—