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i think writing toxic relationships is fine and something i find interesting myself as long as you’re not like. actively shipping them if ykwim. if you aren’t in it for the romance and just want angst and to portray a toxic relationship CORRECTLY. NOT A ROMANTICISED VERSION REMEMBER THAT. then go for it!! but ermm… if you are trying to romanticise or sexualise abusive stuff then stay away from me
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antishippers dont belong in fandom
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I found this rather interesting study about antis in fandoms
https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1309&context=jj_etds
key points:
Antis skew very young
adult antis are mostly no older than 23 (though older ones do exist)
they practice an in group vs our group mentality
to make sure people stay IN the group, they’re constantly hyper vigilant around each other
as such they will go against each other the moment they don’t meet the group’s (impossible to meet) “standards”
the main hate is centered on platforms where hate is boosted through algorithms (such as Twitter/tiktok)
they’re obsessed with sexual grooming, pedophilia and “morality”
anonimity online allows people to disassociate = it makes it easier to be hateful to people
There are very few studies done on antis but I do feel like they’re closer to a cult or huge echochamber
Oh wow, this study is really fascinating. It's very rare to find studies that actually use the term "anti-shipper" rather then dance around it, preferring to call them pro-censorship folks or whatever.
I read about 20 pages of this before i got distracted but its a very fascinating read for anyone who wants to check it out.
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Hey everyone!! Guesses who's back and coming for the Transformer community again! Our good old friend Chloe. Fun since she ran off to another community that had minors in there and is doing the same thing she did, you know harassing people, threatening people, oh! And stealing art again. She has now decided to now harass people she has in the past and randos for some reason which is fun because they wouldn't care about her. But yes, she is back and is now going around threatening people with the "dark web" and calling people the P word, if you know, you know. Threatening to make "Ai bots"? Of people and have them as s*x slaves or something in another site (That screams lawsuits there lol ) Oh! And is in the open reblogging stuff from people's accounts and leaving messages, good to know that you are showing us your new accounts Chloe, makes it so easy for us to see. Anyways, Happy April Fools everyone, please report and block her and follow @chloe-harassment-proof if you have been harassed or messaged by her, don't speak to her by do screenshot everything and keep it or send it to the blog I linked @chloe-harassment-proof It's serious and I would appreciate the help here! :) Don't be afraid to contact the police or file a harassment complaint online, she is a parrot that continues to speak that same stuff over and over, again and again and then gets mad that nobody cares for her and well, she maybe be dealing with lawsuits soon. So do what you can to protect yourself. And as for Chloe, I hope you have a good lawyer, because if it were to go to court, well let's just say... you will be found guilty on many accounts. And well, you do realize the punishments in your state right? Anyways, everyone, you are all amazing people, don't let anything or anyone tell you otherwise. ;3
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Fandom Problem #4713:
Young people who see any content they deem “problematic” or in any way bad and want to censor, delete, or purge it from the internet and shame people for posting it, apparently under the impression that they know what’s best for society. It’s not good to be Mary Whitehouse, kids.
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Fucking **KILL** yourself!!!!!!!!
Do it. Youll **NEVER** win!!!!!!!! Everyone hates you including your mom and whole family,They want you dead. Youre better off dead,Ugly fucking nympho faggot ass worthless ugly fat disgusting pedophile fucking whore!!!!!!!!!
You look like your mom fucked a pig and a goat getting its cum in her cunt then 9 months later she gave birth to you,a disgusting fucked up fetus who should have been aborted! XDDDDDDD You are a dirty fucking little parasite who has no fucking life. **KILL YOURSELF UGLY WHORE**!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*touches you sexually,sensually and very SLOOOOOOOWLY all the way down to your tits,bounces themand stroking slowly and sensually all the way to your ass and spanks your ass and tickles it,strokes your ass and squeezes your boobs and plays with them sexually and sensually licking my lips looking straight into your eyes while i get wet and rubs my fucking pussy on your face and tits hard,raping the absolute cunting SHIT out of you extremely fucking hard,moaning loud and spanking your ass really fucking hard*
This is what happens when everyone you know leaves you because they can't stand your insane outbursts. Have fun getting laughed at on 4Chan, Chloe. I'm off to play some Wind Waker.
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I mean a huge part of the problem is that antis just don't understand that different stories exist for different reasons, and not all stories are supposed to teach you a moral lesson, or any lesson, for that matter, right?
Like the entire plot of The Twilight Zone was basically "Wouldn't that be fucked up? I'm Rod Sterling." This show ran for 5 20-40 episode long seasons in the late 50's to early 60's.
Like yeah, some fiction exists to teach a lesson of some kind, or draw attention to real-world atrocities, or whatever, but not all fiction serves that purpose, nor is it supposed to!
And I know it's a fundamental lack of understanding, or wilful ignorance at the very least, because antis constantly bring up propaganda in this argument, as if propaganda isn't lies presented as fact.
Which is why it's dangerous; because it's not presented as fiction! If propaganda were presented as the lies it is, then it wouldn't fucking work, because the entire reason propaganda works the way it does is because you don't know it's fucking lies!
But if you're over the age of 10 and are watching something that is obviously just a fictional story for entertainment purposes, I would expect you to know better than to emulate everything you see in said story.
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I MADE AN ANTISHIP BINGO BOARD!!
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Feel free to use this anytime, no credit needed ^_^
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aint this the fucken truth
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She's made 2 bots like this as far as I know for 2 different people trying to ruin their reputations. Does anyone know what chatbot she's using? We need to report the bots and her account on there.
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Yet another one today oy
Once again proving she has no idea what words mean.
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Our fandom forbearers did NOT suffer through Anne Rice, strikethrough, and other bullshit for fucking ACOTAR and Harry Potter fans to fucking ruin it for all of us by selling fanfiction. I am not losing novel length yaoi epics because some of you don't know how to act in fannish spaces and yes I do blame the booktokification of fanfic but I also blame those of you that treat fandom like content to consume and not a community to engage with.
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I'm going to frame this conversation and pull it out next time someone asks if pro-censorship fans believe that everything someone writes in fiction is something the author secretly wants to do in real life.
because apparently the answer is yes.
This brings a new light to how many pro-censorship fans love murder and violence, doesn't it?
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it's so depressing seeing selfship posts with " proship / comship dni," it's like seeing an angel without its wings . daily reminder that selfshipping was originally a proship thing until antis stole it
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🥪🥪 THIS IS A REMINDER 🥪🥪
ANTIS DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOUR TRAUMA!!
Please don't disclose your trauma to Antis as a way to make them understand your point. STRANGERS AND ONLINE DEBATES ARE NOT WORTH YOUR SAFETY AND METAL HEALTH.
Antis don't care about your safety and your personal life from the get-go, they only care about themselves and the victims who AGREE WITH THEM. THAT'S NOT PEOPLE WHO DESERVE TO KNOW ABOUT YOUR TRAUMA!
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Do you believe that AO3 should censor certain content?
Yes, some content should be censored
No, there should be no censorship
I’m unsure/conflicted/see both sides
I don’t have an opinion
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I look at the news, I see Moms For Liberty. I look on tumblr, I see antis. I do a double take because they're the exact same group, but fighting on different fronts.
MFL want to ban books and shows and whatever they can that they don't approve of.
Antis want to ban fics and fan art and whatever other small content they can that they don't approve of.
Their end goal is the same. Censorship of anything they don't like. And while it's not a perfect circle (yet) the Venn diagram of what they don't like is very very close to one.
👀👀👀👀
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