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The intellectual backwardness of saying "my beliefs don't fully align with my denomination so I need to conform my beliefs to what my denomination believes" instead of saying, "well, God is truth, and so I should simply seek after the truth in its purest form and then pick whichever denomination most closely aligns with the truth"

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'The Madonna of the Roses' and 'The Madonna of Pietà' by William-Adolphe Bouguereau

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“…and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God’s righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins. It was to show his righteousness at the present time, so that he might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.

Then what becomes of our boasting? It is excluded. By what kind of law? By a law of works? No, but by the law of faith.”

‭‭Romans‬ ‭3:24-27‬ ‭ESV‬‬

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What is the victory according to 1 John 5:4?

A. Our faith in Christ

B. Our good deeds

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And this is what happens when Catholics never talk to Protestants or, ironically, read their own Bibles. "Protect us from ourselves" yikes comment; also, you guys historically kept laymen from reading the Bible on their own so the RCC could manipulate the Holy Word to stay in power and stay rich.

Also, it's a delight to see a Catholic finally admit Sola Scriptura is right. Let's get to the other Solas! Maybe start with Sola Fide next? I feel like that's a good one for some of you.

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So if you believe every biblical word is 100% the word of your god, not to be questioned, only obeyed, regardless of how far humanity develops, how do you manage Ephesians 6:5-9?

Should human trafficking victims simply obey their captors “with a sincere heart” given that they are “servants of Christ” and the Bible urges bond servants to be “faithful and obedient?”

Hell, it promises obedient slaves will be rewarded in Heaven.

To anyone reading, seriously, check the whole verse, the context doesn’t make it better.

If your argument is that all in the Bible is above question, how do you account for that?

Nobody said "not to he questioned, only to he obeyed"—if what you MEAN by "not to be questioned," is "not to be carefully examined in order to get it right." The Bible straight-up says to carefully examine God's words. So don't be disingenuous.

Every Biblical word is 100% the Word of God, yeah. Ephesians 6:1-9 says:

"Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. Honor your father and mother (which is the first commandment with a promise), so that it may be well with you, and that you may live long in the land. Fathers, do not provoke your children to anger, but bring them up in the discipline and instruction of the Lord. Slaves, be obedient to those who are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in the integrity of your heart, as to Christ; not by way of eyeservice, as men-pleasers, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart, serving with good will as to the Lord, and not to men, knowing that whatever good thing each one does, this he will receive back from the Lord, whether slave or free. And masters, do the same things to them, giving up threatening, knowing that both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no partiality with Him."

The chapter is talking about Christian-human relationships with other humans. Starts with the most basic human institution—family. Moves on to slaves and masters. Slaves, indentured servants, bond slaves, were all common in the time of the Bible being written. It was not cultural taboo to have people living with and working for you, or even being bought and sold by you—what the Bible is saying here is actually very counter-cultural. Because it means you have to keep treating them as equal humans, not objects or beasts of burden you can beat or mistreat however you want. Which is a low bar in our minds, but was an incredibly high bar back then. It's called "interpretation." You can't just take words written in a specific context and time period, for a specific intent, with a thousands-of-years-older vocabulary and culture, and go "oh, well in my time period and my language that word means this." It's about as dumb as saying the Wizard of Oz is about queer sex purely because of how many times the word "queer" is printed in the book.

Human trafficking victims are not the kind of "slaves" this verse is talking about, and I bet you know it.

In fact, there is too much anti-human-trafficking philosophy in the Bible for even the most ardent atheist to try the same little "discredit the Bible" smear tactic you're trying right now. Anyone who knows anything about history (beyond a mere 185 years ago, that is) and can see concepts beyond the far-West-ideology of "slavery bad" can have a more intelligent discussion than this.

I'm tired of the same old tripe.

Don't you see that God is using the same term, "slaves" to refer to Christians, HIS people, who are also called His "sheep, children, beloved, inheritors, heirs?" In this same verse? So then when the God who invented humanity uses the word "slave" can't you infer that maybe He doesn't mean it with the same baby-level-100 1/2-year-old connotations that you do? If He's using it to refer to the very same people He loves, protects, sacrificed His life for, and goes to unimaginable lengths to bless--then do you really think this verse is talking about people who are categorically worth being treated as less than human?

That doesn't make sense. You can see that it doesn't make sense.

Bottom line: if God said slavery was morally acceptable, guess what? It would be morally acceptable. He invented reality, your brain, and morality. But He didn't say that, so grow up and be serious. Instead, what He said was listed above: no matter your circumstances, be it as a child, father, slave, or master, remember and conduct yourself as if you're all slaves of God, and you're living to please Him, not each other or yourselves.

God condemns "man-stealing" in Exodus 21:16. Deuteronomy 22 condemns rape. The same God wrote 100% of the Bible through several different authors across centuries by the inspiration of the very words with His Spirit. No, this passage of Ephesians does not tell sexually trafficked victims to obey their kidnappers and rapists. And you know it. Got anything else?

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I am ~not like other Protestants. Our churches are so ugly and small. While we simultaneously have big garish opulent concert worship sessions. Speaking of that, our music is terrible, no choir = no Christ. 🤢 I'm so BORED in our churches, we should follow Catholics' example and put all our funding towards pretty art and stuff so people will have stuff to look at during the sermons. It's, like, really offensive that we think God doesn't like candles and stained glass! Catholicism does literally EVERYTHING right and we get everything wrong and YES I'm a Protestant and still think this, YES we exist!

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Source: trust me bro

Protestants will literally defend Sola Scriptura and then turn around and say that Galatians 3:28 is less important than their traditions of patriarchy lmao.

To be clear, the Anglican Church did NOT split from the Roman Catholic Church in the Protestant Reformation, so we aren’t Protestant.

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That's great but that's just not how the tagging system works. Anyone going into tag X is looking for tag X, not why someone thinks Mary saved us from sin or why Protestants are evil heretics. It's considered rude to put a million irrelevant tags on something not related to any of them, and ironically causes disorganization for everyone else.

Also, this post was just supposed to be funny.

(side note, if they wanna organize, why would a post that had nothing to do with Protestantism need to go in that tag? It's like those bloggers who tag random photos as #coquette when you're just trying to look for Marvel gifs.)

In the Catholic tags: Catholicism

In the Protestant tags: Catholicism :)

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In the Catholic tags: Catholicism

In the Protestant tags: Catholicism :)

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Protestantism has to be the most cringe form of Christianity. Don’t even get me started on “non denominationalism”

There’s something so incredibly spiritually sterile about attending a church built into a strip mall

God doesn’t visit there

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oh so now it's apparently weird to....... *check notes* bring the Word of God at CHURCH. i have to laugh—