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Interesting thing in the end when you don't romance anyone.. In Durge path(?)

Some choices in the cutscene (2 and 3), where you are supposed to be with LI after ending, but you are alone, ends with the same sentence/part of a set of words. Its "to your own nature be true". Does Tav have such a thing?? Idk, but it's still interesting, bc sceleritas says "to be true to yourself". And when you ask the Emperor about withelded information it replies that this is mind flayer thing(illusion, lies), so it just stays true to itself.

I think this is good food for thought.

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So.. the spawn thing.

After some of my playthroughs Dark Urge and spawn shit got me thinking. In fact, illithids are also spawn, spawn of the Elder Brain, i can see is something similar with vampire spawns, bhaalspawns..

There are a lot of them (well, in Bhaal's case, he HAD a lot of spawn, but he is quite ready to make even more, judging by Sceleritas's answer regarding your love if you become the chosen one of Baal), especially illithids. They are not free, although the methods of control are slightly different. Bhaalspawn are manipulated by Bhaal (most likely through someone like their butlers) and can be controlled to some extent by the Father through their Urge, illithids are completely controlled.. almost like vampire spawn by their master (they can't resist their master commands..).

Bhaalspawns is born with their Father blood already in their veins, true vampire master is sharing their drop of blood with vampire spawns, and, well, illithid is actually reborn as new creature while infected with its tadpole…sometimes with some memories about its past.

IDK, intellect Devours feel like Bhaalspawn's butlers to me, but actually its more like pets (then..why did i raise this question?). But butlers actually are also a way for Bhaal to control his children more and communicate better with them. I mean, look at Sceleritas: how lovingly he talks to Durge, he kind of praises them (admires them) for their terrible deeds and stuff. This is feels like a really good way to get people to comply..But prizes for murders, especially Isobel's murder, are manipulation to make sure the MC complies. Their life is full of this crap. Even if they know it's manipulation, they can't do anything, i think..

But they have different purpose. Illithids purpose is domination over the world, service to The Grand Design. Bhaalspawns purpose is to kill and destroy everything, even themself in Bhaals name. Even his gift/prize to you, - the Slayer - in fact, is destroying you. It's breaking your mind. ("Regarding the Slayer" book)

..and Vampire spawns literally just a slaves, and as Cazador said, they are more likely made to be consumed.

Also, interesting thing, the intellect devourer “Us” (I’m not sure, but I believe they are an anomaly for Absolute and her thralls due to control of the karsus crown) says that the MC are here to be known, TO BE LOVED… I think the Elder Brain really loves its children when Bhaal is not (they talk about love, the butler and people from the cult promises the Father's love, but we know it really is not. The Slayer is an ancient symbol of hatred. Bhaal and the concept of love to living things are incompatible.) Regarding vampire spawn and their masters I’m generally silent, everything basically is clear with them.

The Elder Brain's psionic control has a certain reach, and in some cases there are mind flayers that can resist it and escape. I don't know about Vampire spawns, i guess they need to be somewhere nearby their master too?? I mean, they obey to their master's commands, yeah, and can't resist, ability to feel something is fading.. and what?..Vampire can't know where can be their spawn.. and Bhaal, well, you could say, is everywhere. He is god. Bhaalspawns can't hide from him (and from their butlers), i'm pretty sure he always knows what they are doing. He may know what redeemed durge do, althought he can't control them. MC is still his children. His last living children… And their blood descedants still will be under his control.

Damn it, The EB, true vampire and quasi-deity that is Bhaal, can be killed, but you know, time will pass and Bhaal will be revived, unlike the other two..