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True. So I don't get it when people say they don't want Avorah to be endgame. They just wanted Ava & Deborah to be "creative partners." I think most fans themselves can't accept the relationship between a 20-something woman & her 70-year-old boss. For most, seeing the push & pull between Ava & Deb is enough. They can tell themselves that this is just how it's supposed to be. That the audience is not ready, but in reality, they themselves are not ready. For some reason, the idea of romance & relationship between 2 women w/a 40-plus age gap is so "right now," but for it to actually happen, is something that still gives them pause. Deborah knows that. She knows that behind all the "acceptance & queer social visibility," people are still living in a "this is where I draw the line" mentality. Ava is so naive bcoz she thinks everyone is supporting & welcoming her into the fold, but what she doesn't understand is that underneath all the smiles, there are still people out there who hate them. I want them to be endgame bcoz, let's be honest, we will never have a Deb & Ava IRL. As much as people would like to say "representation," we know that's not true. The only thing that we & the characters have in common is that we’re both gay. None of the things that happened to the characters will happen to us; that's why I am rooting for them. Every couple in any show that shows me something I know will never happen IRL gives me that giddy feeling; they're my fairy tale. I know that writers are trying so hard to steer the story away from Avorah after literally steering us right into that sapphic island where we all wanted to live on. I’m sad that they're not just backpedaling but bending over backwards in trying to "straighten" this whole epic journey. JPL is blowing, stumping, & to some degree calling out the fire & shaming it. We've become the butt of a joke for a few weeks when every interview is calling us out, calling our ship like we're some stowaway trying to steal a ship & start a mutiny, when they're the ones who welcomed us on board. I had people tell me "you just want to see them fuck," & the 1st thing that comes to mind is how sad their life must be if they get horny just by watching Hacks. Being intimate w/o fucking is one of the best parts of the relationship. Just talking, going on dates, vacations, heck, grocery shopping are marks of a normal, healthy, stable relationship. What I want is for Deb to have the kind of partner who will ask her how her day was, bring her a glass of wine, or even heat her food for her. Things that I'm sure she never had, given how she has Josefina & her little crew, but no matter how close they are, it would still be weird &, I guess, crossing some boundaries if they did those things for her w/ the kind of emotions & care that a partner gives. I want Ava to have something that will ground her. Ava, for all her independent-woman-hear-me-roar badge, is a freaking wreck. She needs guidance & a hand to guide her. Her northern star. Ava has been the kind of person who would do things bcoz she can & she believes she should bcoz no one is allowed to tell her otherwise. But w/ Deborah, she knows that she can literally chase her tail all day long, & Debo would call her, & she'll be focused & 100% present. That kind of emotional stability that I know she won't find w/Ruby or the married couple; they're all busy trying to find their own path themselves. They're all too caught up trying to smooth their own twisty, curvy future. Ava needs solid ground to walk on. & if Deborah can finally accept that Ava is the reward for the dud that was Frank, & honestly, if JPL will gift us w/ our own wonderful ending, then that won't be so hard. It would be a funny, happy, crazy, twisted, ironic, confusing, wonderful, & gay kind of existence. But again, Hacks is their creation, their own world. They can make us miserable or happy if it suits their mood. I can only hope, but in the end, we are at their mercy. We all want to see how this ends. But I don't think our happiness or satisfaction is at the forefront of JPL's mind.

Also, do y'all see how easy it is to have them date??? Spa, long walks around city attractions, karaoke, even clubs, or quiet evenings at home with a glass of wine, DO Y'ALL SEE HOW EASY IT IS FOR THEM

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The funny thing about this scene is the fact that the coconut they gave Jimmy is actually a mature coconut that's more likely used for coconut milk and coconut meat. A young coconut has more of a soft 'shell,' white or off-white in color, and is easier to chop the top off to get the coconut water out. This particular coconut is so old that the outer 'shell' is already brown and the husk is already dried. There's more coconut meat than coconut water in that coconut.

You can't be demanding stuff like this just because you're a producer.

HACKS: Season 4, Episode 7 "D'Christening"

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To me, Deborah is not the kind of person you wanna fight with fire. The more you try to outwit or out-bitch her, the more you're just fueling the fire. Like she said to Marty, she's been playing defense all her life because of assholes like Marty who stab her in the back.

Now Ava is just proving herself to be just like Marty. If you show her your teeth, she'll show you her fangs. If she can make her daughter feel pain by saying to Ava, "don't have kids," what chance does Ava have? She's fine if people make fun of her, but she will never let anyone erase her worth.

And this is what Ava is doing now. She's telling strangers that Deborah is just some old person that she needs to play nice with. And judging from Deborah's smile, Ava just made a big mistake. Ava might feel like she's winning, but if they amped Deborah's emotion, I think Avorah is dead and gone.

This will actually be a "someone that I used to know"/ex-BFF/"great minds think alike" kind of situation. Something that can be reframed as "mother-daughter" or "mentor & mentee." Coz there's no more genuine connection between them; all that's left is hate & mistrust.

But if Ava realized that the only way to show Deborah that they need each other is for her to reach out first, be patient & understanding, then Deborah will have no ammunition against that. Deborah can't fight softness & caring; she doesn't know how to respond except accept that softness. Like how soft Ava was to her when Ava told her, "you can make anything funny." Because to Deborah, the more you show her your anger, the more she can justify her anger towards you. But if you show her softness, she doesn't know how to react to that.

I read somewhere that they want the feud to last so Deborah learns how to treat Ava right; now they want the feud to be over coz it's getting deeper than they thought possible. I guess they forgot one of the people involved is a 70-plus-year-old woman who's been burned too many times, who’s had her fair share of backstabbing & passive-aggressive relationships with her own flesh and blood.

I hope it ends up being okay, coz what's the point if they just end up hating each other in the end? Or them parting ways & just ending up as footnotes in each other's history.

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I love the darker side of my fave girls, but I can’t get on board with Ava constantly telling Debra she’s old. I know she needs to be cruel and strong to show Debra that she can handle this, but using Debra’s age over and over feels like more than just a “stunt” to prove she can stand up to her. It feels like she’s disrespecting Debra repeatedly—using Debra’s fears and shame about her life against her.

Debra opened up to her in the woods about her fears and insecurities, and now Ava’s throwing that back in her face like someone who never truly cared. We all know that great love can become great hate if someone is deeply hurt, but this is Ava. She was supposed to be better than Kathy, Frank, or DJ. But in these past two episodes, she’s proving to Debra that she’s just like everyone else.

They all hurt Debra. They all break her heart. And in the end, they expect her to forgive them or at least move on—because Deborah is a “bitch,” right? But if Deborah hurts them—like taking Ava’s head writing position—then suddenly, they get to go nuclear on her. They can crush her and say she deserved it because she “broke their hearts.”

Ava called Deborah heartless, even though Deborah forgave her for sending the email. She wrote horrible things about her, and luckily Deborah was too drugged out to read it (eye refresh). Now Ava is using everything she knows about Deborah against her—her age, her sleeping with Bob, which Deborah told her in confidence.

As much as I want to be on Ava’s side, I can’t help but be annoyed that she’s turning into a mix of Kathy, Frank, and DJ. I remember how upset Ava was when DJ called her mom old—yet now she’s calling Deborah the “world’s oldest slut.” That’s just too much. It’s one thing to slut-shame a woman, but to also say she’s too old to be doing it? That’s way below the belt.

If I were Deborah, I would never forget that. Ava may be younger, and even if she hates Deborah right now, she should at least have some respect for her.

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I love the darker side of my fave girls, but I can’t get on board with Ava constantly telling Debra she’s old. I know she needs to be cruel and strong to show Debra that she can handle this, but using Debra’s age over and over feels like more than just a “stunt” to prove she can stand up to her. It feels like she’s disrespecting Debra repeatedly—using Debra’s fears and shame about her life against her.

Debra opened up to her in the woods about her fears and insecurities, and now Ava’s throwing that back in her face like someone who never truly cared. We all know that great love can become great hate if someone is deeply hurt, but this is Ava. She was supposed to be better than Kathy, Frank, or DJ. But in these past two episodes, she’s proving to Debra that she’s just like everyone else.

They all hurt Debra. They all break her heart. And in the end, they expect her to forgive them or at least move on—because Deborah is a “bitch,” right? But if Deborah hurts them—like taking Ava’s head writing position—then suddenly, they get to go nuclear on her. They can crush her and say she deserved it because she “broke their hearts.”

Ava called Deborah heartless, even though Deborah forgave her for sending the email. She wrote horrible things about her, and luckily Deborah was too drugged out to read it (eye refresh). Now Ava is using everything she knows about Deborah against her—her age, her sleeping with Bob, which Deborah told her in confidence.

As much as I want to be on Ava’s side, I can’t help but be annoyed that she’s turning into a mix of Kathy, Frank, and DJ. I remember how upset Ava was when DJ called her mom old—yet now she’s calling Deborah the “world’s oldest slut.” That’s just too much. It’s one thing to slut-shame a woman, but to also say she’s too old to be doing it? That’s way below the belt.

If I were Deborah, I would never forget that. Ava may be younger, and even if she hates Deborah right now, she should at least have some respect for her.

Deborah and Ava + insults

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I don't know if this is method acting on Hannah's part but she looks in sad or in pain. Like she had her heart broken. I know they're not a real life couple (god I wish they are) but her facial expression feels like she's crying inside, like it pains her to see Jean move on with her life without Hannah beside her.

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What's more precious, a back rub or a tummy rub? Honestly, they're giving Taylor and Sara a run for their money.