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i love this website i just feel at home here you know

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OHHHH THESE DIVAS

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“Quick Mike say something straight!”

Fuck.

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"that show is queerbaiting" maybe you just aren't evolved enough to appreciate those freaks being homoerotic but i am

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in case you forgot this exists:

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it’s kinda tragic that el fell in love with mike by watching him look for will because she’d never known love like that, and she saw mike’s capacity for such intense love, and, rightfully so, wanted it for herself. but she never got that version of mike. it’s more apparent in s4 than anywhere else, but all el has really ever wanted is for mike to love her like he loves will

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Insane 😭

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Keep the flame going for those we have lost to suicide. 

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The jackets, HELLO????? I already can smell the parallel

@greenfiend already wrote a while ago how that scene from s1 may foreshadow Mike coming out to El and I think that’s maybe it! Or they’re having a heart-to-heart after just to clear things up/open up about Will

I mean, look at him!!! It’s the same Mike who feels understood and accepted for who he is

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Teambyler: I'm gonna disappear when Season 5 comes out

I will avoid the internet like the plague.

I will stop posting on Tumblr, or anywhere. I won't respond to messages.

People are already talking about how if there's a Byler kiss they'll change their PFPs to show it. I love us Bylers, you're all crazy in a good way, but I can't see any of that shit.

I HATE SPOILERS. Plus, as I promised in my big Byler video, I need to film my GENUINE FIRST reaction to each episode. PLUS, I need to give commentary to each episode and edit those reaction videos for YouTube. I won't be able to quickly do all that.

This is my plan:

Nov. 26: I watch the first episode. Over the next couple days I edit my reaction and post it on my Patreon. They'll be edited... I think a pure unedited reaction from ME will be too boring, as I pause frequently and double-back a lot. My Patreon videos will still have me react to the whole episode though. My public video will be substantially shorter than that. (You can't post a complete reaction on YT.) I'll do these as quickly as possible for each episode.

Dec. 1, 8, 15, 22: VOLUME ONE REACTIONS go up on YouTube.

Dec. 29, Jan. 5, 12: VOLUME TWO REACTIONS go up on YouTube.

Jan. 19: FINALE REACTION goes up on YouTube.

Also, because people will want to know specifically how *I* react to things and what I think about XYZ, I'll withhold from engaging with the fandom between November 26 and when that LAST reaction goes up on January 18. (I MIGHT share my thoughts on things that I already I publicly react to, though.)

So prepare for a "drought" from me!

I REALLY need to cut myself off for this to happen. If for some reason the media wants to talk to "that lawyer who made a Byler video" that in itself tells me too much! So I'll make sure to avoid being reached by them as well.

I can't even look at the dashboard of my own channel for a while. For example, if my Byler video suddenly gets a million views that tells me more than I want to know! =D Actually, I can't see ANY Byler video for a while because if any of them are hugely popular that tells me too much. Aaaaugh!

-teambyler

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if I see another GA saying Will isn’t gay I’m gonna fucking crash out so bad

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we're past the appropriate rejection window honestly. remember how steve is rejected by robin in the same season he develops feelings for her? or how dustin is symbolically rejected by max in the season he develops feelings for her? that's because it would have been a super weird choice to build it up for a really long time and then end it with a rejection.

there's a reason why in season three when joyce rejects hopper, we all immediately know it isn't a real rejection, even though they're fighting, she's grieving and planning to leave, and he's being unreasonable and unfair. there's reason after reason to think it's not going to happen, but because he's had feelings for her since season one we know it's going somewhere.

who waits on the edge of their seat to watch someone get turned down? who stays subscribed to netflix for that? that kind of thing would not be interesting, it would just be a confusing way to spend the increasingly limited time right before your show ends. penultimate season. every scene has to mean something bigger, all the way down to lucas talking about new coke or mike trying a new kind of pizza.

in writing you primarily only want to wait and build up to things if the result is going to be worth waiting for. rejection of the perpetually tortured gay kid is predictable and doesn't function to do much at all story wise. easy to write around, too, but they did the opposite. they built will's character around this.

they also have no need to dip back into the rejection pool narratively, doesn't add to the story. especially this late into the game. (sidenote, weird how people were not nearly as sure robin was going to be rejected despite her love interest being mirrored to mike, significantly less developed, and introduced so late, but i digress)

if they wanted mike to reject will, it should have been during the van scene. he should have given mike the painting and said something along the lines of, "i know you don't feel the same, but i really want you to know how el sees you, how we all see you. you're the heart. we'd fall apart without you." it would have still been sad but it would have been an ending.

because plotlines need to end! they need to end when it makes sense for them to, not before or after. dragging it along means they either realize they have something worth dragging, or have deliberately decided to prolong a plot point past its logical conclusion for the sole purpose of milking every last second of misery they can out of will, which would be needlessly cruel and so, so gratuitous.

it's not like the van scene NEEDED to happen exactly how it happened. any scene that is solely character driven with no impact on the plot can be rewritten over and over and changed into whatever it has to be. it was written as the most romantic mike moment in any season, and it was filmed and lit and directed extremely specifically. zero accidents.

robin and vickie was unnecessary without a plan. mike and will was unnecessary unless they have a plan.

so they must have a plan. if mike was going to reject will, it had to be in season four. but mike didn't reject will. not at all. he was actually very, very moved by what will had to say, he just didn't entirely realize what it was he was saying.

in fact, they made sure that this plotline was not just unsolved, but that it was obligated to come back, by having it go against the character's most consistent moral line of friends don't lie. and gave it to the character who, in his introductory scene, refuses to lie. dishonesty has genuine ramifications in this show, and will's is attached to a physical (treasured) object that has to come back into play. they can't sweep it under the rug and mike can't reject will without it coming off as... just... far too late.

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guess I'm writing this 😼

would y'all fw this if I wrote it

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I feel like this might be an unpopular opinion but here we go:

I’d actually be a little disappointed if the happy memory that saves Mike and/or Will from Vecna turns out to be the swing set memory, simply because imo it destroys the actual meaning behind Mike’s sentiment in the shed in s2.

The act of asking Will to be his friend is not what makes that memory so cherished and powerful. Them being five years old, it being the first day of kindergarten, the swing set. None of that is important. The actual act and moment of Mike asking Will to be his friend is not Mike’s best memory because it’s only in retrospect that he feels like it’s the best thing he’s ever done. It’s only after he’s experienced years of his life with Will in it that he decides for himself that asking Will to be his friend is the best thing he’s ever done because by doing so he let Will into his life. Will makes Mike’s life better by simply being in it. That’s the true meaning behind Mike’s words! Mike thinks Will is the best thing in his life and that’s why he’s so so so so grateful for having asked him to be his friend. That’s why it’s the best thing he’s ever done.

It’s about the connection they’ve crafted throughout the years they’ve spent together and how much it means to both of them, not about a moment where they didn’t know yet how much they’ll mean to each other one day. And therefore I personally think that it’d be way more power- and meaningful for Mike and/or Will to be saved by a shared memory from years into their friendship, and not from a moment where they didn’t even know each other yet.

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would y'all fw this if I wrote it

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the argument that "bi mike would be more realistic than gay mike" saddens me a little, like bi mike is fucking valid headcanon but pls dont imply that idk

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And what if I stared into your eyes, painted you in armor, holding a shield against a dragon, protecting the party, and told you “without heart we’d all fall apart”?