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These anons are cute!! We all love you, my beautiful girlfriend, and wish that you heal soon ❤️

Hi back to you all very nice anons!! 😊

Also, please explain all these incoherences and contradictions, Lauren!! WTF!!! This post is about when you go into the details and realize the amount of bullshit we get from social media for the sake of marketing.

Love you, my favorite F-non-anon!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

Laucy 2.O

Hiiii babies and dear Anons 👋🏼🤗. I'm back with a new post. And I know, I know, I apologize again for my disappearance but I haven't been well for 3 months and also have been in the hospital again for a week 😭. I don't want to bore you with my health, but I just ask you to be patient again for future posts 😅🙏🏼.

I was answering the asks in my mail when I realized that 2 of them in particular were asking the same thing. I started writing and the more I did, the more I realized how long it was getting and I therefore decided to split it off from the Q&A post I started and which you guys will have, and make it a separate one on today's topic which you can see from the title.

Without further ado, let's go straight to the answers of those 2 asks. Enjoy 🙃.

HIII to you too, my dear 👋🏼😄. You're the purple heart Anon 🙃. That's how I always mentioned you to my gf, and the fact that you always remembered to say hi to me because you know it's important to me, always distinguished you from others especially because you do it in caps every time and you always make me smile/laugh because I know it's a dig for all those Anons who don't 🤣. Of course I remember you, as you can see 🤗!

1) I'm getting better. Very slowly, but I'm getting better. I still have a lot of medical checks to do but then I hope to finish once and for all because I'm honestly tired of hospital, doctors, and being sick in general 😩. Thank you for your concern and I really hope you're well and healthy 🥰.

2) Of course I can expose them 😉. This post is dedicated to that 😜.

And yeah, I hope they don't steal again because for real then I'd stop doing big analysis like I did in the past for Laucy, for the AMA's 2018, etc. I just want people to respect my decision to not want my stuff off Tumblr and ask me first if they really wanna post anything of mine outside of here, so that we can arrange what’s good for me for them to post and what’s not. That's all.

P.S. you made me laugh with the caps part which I guess was shouted 🤣🤣.

3) Thank you for always being so kind to me, my dear 💜 Anon. I really mean it 🤗. Have a beautiful day too 🙃. My gf says hi too 😄. I love you too and take care 😘.

Hello to you too, dear Anon 👋🏼😄. Greetings from my gf too 🙃.

It is a pain, and not because you asked, but because of the PR. And not even for the PR per se, but just because it's always the same shit we've seen (and will continue to see) over and over again but with different people. But anyway, let's get into it.

Oh and, small disclaimer. Sasha's pronouns are ze/her/they and I used she/her when I wrote this. I'm explaining this to you guys just to clarify that I didn't misgender her, okay? Good 😇.

Let's start with the new and improved version of Laucy. Welcome to Laucy 2.O, my dear Anon and my dear 💜 Anon, and any other of you babies who are reading.

Sasha Mallory, born on August 6, 1988 (age 35), professional dancer, and runner-up on season 8 of So You Think You Can Dance in 2011 when she was 23. She's worked in many dance companies, music videos, tours of singers such as Madonna, Adam Lambert, and Katy Perry, and done much more. Along with her family, she owns and operates the Mallory Academy of Dance (in Bakersfield California) in which she obviously also teaches.

In my opinion, chosen precisely because of her sexuality (as Laur herself said when talking about the Valentine's Day post in the People article: “Queer representation is important”) and her profession because, unlike Laur's other queer friends who were already her friends anyway and someone new was needed in her life, Sasha's in the industry and travels a lot precisely for the same reason. She ‘understands’ that life. And she certainly benefits from the money made from the contract and, more importantly, the visibility in the industry for her work.

Having explained the basics, let's get down to the facts and the not-so-subtle stages:

The beginning

-  Prelude. For those who don't know, Prelude premiered with a special global livestream via Moment House on October 14 and 15, 2021, but was officially released on November 5, 2021. It took them 6 days to make/film it. On September 11, 2021, Laur received the videos that she included by turning them almost into a documentary (with the help of Matthew Siskin of course, the co-director and co-editor along with Lo), and they started promoting the project on September 14, 2021. Before all this, however, there were the organization and the rehearsals to bring the project to life.

Lauren and Sasha met in mid-August 2021 (roughly the 13th) thanks to Coral Dolphin, the choreographer who took care of Prelude (and the tour).

To confirm the timeline, these are Laur's very first likes on their profiles (Coral Dolphin, José Gabriel Baez, Sasha, and Triana Steward), except for Aahkilah Cornelius, who didn't even have IG at the time, and Jesse Johnson who didn't post anything in general (not even anything personal) from the time they met (not even Prelude) until 2022 (personal stuff).

- From November 20 to December 1, 2021, Tour: An Evening with Lauren Jauregui. With Laur, Coral direction and choreography, and Sasha and José dancers.

The hang out no longer just professional

- First speculations created on March 12, 2022, after the insta-stories and that post (posted two days later) with the alpacas, with contribution of the tweet to pretend to mislead, but actually start inserting the seed 🧫 into people's heads 🧠:

A couple of appearances together with other friends: 1) at Banks' concert on Apr 6, 2022, along with *cough* coincidentally and not to publicize two things at the same time *cough*  the announcement of Laur's participation in The Serpentina Tour, 2) at Coachella on Apr 17, 2022, *cough* she didn't go there with Lo and her friends, she was there only because she had to perform/dance with Channel Tres with whom she was booked from Mar 18, 2022, to Dec 31, 2022 *cough*.

- Sasha danced with her and José again (for the last time so far) at the Al Sol Blume Festival on April 30, 2022 (the 3 of them rehearsed from the 27th to the 29th).

Another appearance together on a boat with all of Laur's friends on May 14, 2022.

- Rumors reinforced by the trip to Cuba for Laur's birthday in which I'll underline, there were other people, friends, with them and her brother. *let's water the seed 💧*

We're just friends, people, isn't it obvious? *Please don't let it be obvious*

+ denial/fake protection

- Sasha went on the New York (July 27, 2022) and Denver (Aug 2, 2022) tour dates before continuing with her gig for the Channel Tres tour, and on Aug 1st, Laur posted that tweet just to add fuel to the fire. *let's keep watering 💧*

Lo wished her a happy birthday with a post on Aug 6, 2022.

- On November 29, 2022, Sasha posted a TikTok with the “Reasons Why I'm SINGLE” filter and on December 3, 2022, she replied to someone by saying that she and Lauren were just friends. Both then deleted. Did you have any doubts about it? 😑

In the meantime tho, other appearances together: on Sept 17, 2022, (Aliyah Niambi's insta-story) to celebrate an Aja Monet working achievement, on Oct 30, 2022, for Halloween, on Oct 31, 2022, for the Paramore concert, and on Dec 8, 2022, for Channel Tres tour date in L.A. where Ty was too. *👏🏼🙌🏼 a reunion with 2 PRs, yeeeey 🥳🤣🤣🤣*

“She like who she like”/The confirmation

- Snow Tha Product EVERYNIGHTNIGHTS PODCAST live streamed on January 12, 2023, in which Laur publicly said for the first time that she was into a woman, specifying “a femme, a non-binary” and choking and freaking out more and more in explaining because she didn't know whether she was defining her the correct way or not. Sasha changed her bio to the one she still has now immediately after: * we're almost there 💧*

- On January 18, 2023, there was the video on Lauren's Patreon Zoom as they played Uno to confirm even more who she was talking to Snow about, plus the fans' backlash and Laur's obvious reaction to 100% confirm: *has germinated 🌱*

- The UnitedMasters GRAMMY party (Feb 3, 2023) before the final push, let's call it the oh-so-unpredictable boom of the definitive confirmation of the Valentine's Day post (Feb 14, 2023).

The explanation

- In the Zach Sang Show interview released on March 31, 2023, she said that they'd been together for a year, that there had been attraction from the first moment they danced Don't Wanna Say, and that however, neither of them told the other anything for a while; Sasha because Lauren was her boss and she wanted to be respectful and Laur because she didn’t think it was mutual. She explained that she was the one who made the first move by inviting her over to her house to hang out. They cooked together and only after Sasha left very early, Lo confessed everything to her via text to which Sasha replied that she felt the same way. Laur specified that it happened the night before she left to go back to Miami because she still lived there and still had 3 months of lease for the house.

End of the important stuff (for now)

Now let's talk logic, dates, and bullshit.

Let's break down piece by piece the already checked and verified facts I've listed to you, with what she said on the Zach Sang Show, and let's see what's true and what's not.

1) Taking into consideration the date I believe to be correct, Lauren and Sasha met on August 13, 2021. Attraction from the first moment they danced Don’t Wanna Say: “The chemistry was just crazy. I was like, what the fuck is this? I feel so attracted to you”.

In addition to the promo for Prelude, there was no interaction or public appearance together until the tour.

2) They went on tour from November 20 until December 1, 2021. “And then it was like super low-key. We both had like a crush on each other but didn't say anything about it for a minute”, Sasha because Lauren was her boss and she wanted to be respectful, and Laur because she didn't think it was mutual.

After the tour, again no public appearances together until March 12, 2022 (alpacas). This, this one right here, is the timespan that interests us the most.

3) The first move and the confession: “I invited her to come over to hang out with me and we made dinner together and stuff. And it was a date in my head, but she didn't know it was a date. She thought we were hanging out just casually” - small pause to look at Chantal (her manager Chantal Felice) as she did other times during bullshit - “So she ended up leaving hella early” blah, blah, blah, blah, blah “I sent her this like, really long cute ass message and she was like: what?”

4) The explanation of when it happened: “Actually, that happened right before I left back to Miami. So we were here in L.A. and it was right before I left back to Miami because I was living in Miami at the time. So I had like 3 months still of my lease in Miami. So it was like the day before I left, was when I texted her and was like ‘this is how I feel’. And she was like ‘what the fuck? I feel the same way’ and I was like ‘what?’. So yeah, we had like 3 months in between. - Now we see each other when we can”.

Okay, that day? That dinner ‘they had’ the night before going back to Miami? It never happened. And those 3 months that she wanted to make believe were in Miami? They're not correct.

No surprise there since we know it's all made-up narrative for the PR, but do you wanna know how I know? I know because unfortunately for both Camren, fans save every little thing posted on the internet that concerns them and their lives. I checked. Laur's last night in L.A. was December 18, 2021, and who did she spend it with? WITH CORAL! They had dinner IN A RESTAURANT before going to The Peppermint Club (West Hollywood). The next day (the 19th), Lo was in Miami and returned to Los Angeles on February 5, 2022.

Here you can see the screenshots I took of Laur's insta-stories. One from her last day in Miami on February 4, 2022, with Mateo, the son of her friend Alexa Ferrer, and another one from when she returned to Los Angeles on February 5, 2022, which can be compared with the post Lo published on February 25, 2022, in which she was with her friend Britt (Brittany Martinez-Hewitt):

Here, however, Coral's insta-story (Dec 18) and the screenshot I took from one of Laur's insta-stories (Dec 19), specifically from the one where she was playing with Cleo:

You can also compare Coral's insta-story with the post Laur published on December 21, 2021. From slides 6, 7, and 10, you can very well see both how Lo's outfit matches and how it was the same night.

You can also see from Coral's insta-story how it was night outside. It's clearly visible from the glass window behind Laur. And now tell me, is there anything about this picture that makes you think it was Lauren's house or otherwise a house in general? And does it look like Sasha was there? Maybe hidden under the small table that was clearly only for two people and that makes you understand that no one else was with them? 🤣🤣🤣 Sasha wasn't even there that night! They didn't see each other at all! 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤣🤣🤣 So what dinner had and cooked at your house the night before you went to Miami are we talking about, Laur? What in the PR and the alternative universe are you talking about? 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤣🤣🤣

Debunked the dinner, let's move on to the 3 months.

The timespan between December 18, 2021 (last day in L.A.) and February 5, 2022 (return to L.A.) is 1 month and 18 days to be exact. I'm gonna abound by saying they were almost 2 months if I have to, but it's certainly not 3. They don't match the idea that by “I was living in Miami at the time. So I had like 3 months still of my lease in Miami - So yeah, we had like 3 months in between”, she meant to imply that they didn't see each other because she stayed in Miami for 3 months. Yeah, she still had 3 months of lease for the house, but that doesn't mean she stayed there for real as I've shown you. And it can't even be that she was talking about another time period because she's never stayed in Miami for 3 months since she met Sasha in August of 2021.

On the other hand, the timespan between December 18, 2021 (last day in L.A.) and March 12, 2022 (alpacas) is 2 months and 22 days. I can again abound by saying that they were almost 3 months, but only to let Lo get away with it. This does match the “we had like 3 months in between”, but it also proves another lie at the same time.

Remember how I also wrote in the initial list that Sasha was booked to perform with Channel Tres from March 18, 2022, to December 31, 2022? Well, she hadn't left yet for the first date, which was Lollapalooza in Chile (March 18, 2022). So, if Laur was back in town on February 5, 2022, what exactly was the reason they didn't see each other for precisely 1 month and seven days (February 5 to March 12) before that PUBLIC hang-out with Lauren's friends (alpacas)?

If December 18, 2021 (last day in L.A.) and March 12, 2022 (alpacas) match the almost 3 months said on the Zach Sang Show, what exactly was the reason for not seeing each other before the 12th (alpacas)? After not seeing each other since that oh-so-real dinner before Laur returned to Miami, and especially after they confessed to liking each other via texts, do they really want me to believe they waited another month since Lauren was back in town to see each other? And in the company of other people on top of that? Come on now 🤣🤣🤣. After all that waiting, they would've seen each other the moment Laur set foot back in town if it had been a real relationship.

Debunked even the 3 months, let's move on to the part of the interview in which she said they'd been together for a year.

As I said before, the Zach Sang Show interview was released on March 31, 2023. It was filmed definitely a few days prior or in any case in the same month since it was primarily done for the promo of Trust Issues (which was released on the same day as the interview) and In Between. From that, since to Zach's question “How long have you been together?” she answered “We've been together for like a year” and it was March 2023, we can establish that by March 2022 they were already together officially as a couple. Or rather, already since before February 2022 given what Laur said about the Valentine's Day post in the interview with People (May 26, 2023): “We'd been together for a year by that point”.

Neither of them has yet specified what the official date is, but still based on the date of Lo's last day in L.A. because of the so-real ‘dinner and text’ story, we can assume that December 18, 2021, is the specific date on which they officially got together. Unless we'll have anniversary posts in the future.

So, if they've already been together since December 18, 2021, then why instigate/tease Snow during her podcast about the fact that she missed the opportunity to kiss her in the Piña video? Why push her so hard and on several occasions for other things as well?

***I'd like to clarify anyway that I've taken Mila completely out of the equation also because this acting as single people of theirs is something that has been going on for them basically since the X-Factor days (they did, they do, and they have to keep doing it for appearances, or simply when they're mad at each other 😅). All this is just me proving and exposing Laucy 2.O. Okay, let's move on.***

And speaking of Piña, on September 19, 2022, Lauren and Snow did the TikTok live to promote the song by also saying that they would've made the video as soon as they were both in town (L.A.). Which happened in October. On October 5, 2022, @jakehenrythgc posted a picture together with Lo on the set of the video (in the La Cita Bar: bar/live music venue/nightclub in Downtown L.A.). Laur posted an insta-story while watching the full video for the first time on October 26, 2022, and on December 19, 2022, the video was released.

So if the video was shot on October 5 when Snow missed the opportunity to kiss her, shouldn't that date be calculated in that year with Sasha? Was it crossed off in the calendar and no one told me? If Laur had actually been in a relationship for a year, she wouldn't have insisted so much on the missed opportunity to be kissed by another person even if only professionally. Although we could see in that very podcast how important 'professionally' is to Lauren. So important, she didn't even remember doing it with a guy in the Always Love video 🤦🏻‍♀️🤣.

But back to being serious. If she'd actually been in a relationship for a year, she never would've pressed and pushed Snow's buttons in that way on different things. But no, she instigated/teased her a lot of times by even saying other things outside of Snow specifically, like the fact that she likes to provoke in general even straight girls: “I love making straight girls question who they are” – “I'm just trying to see if you're really as straight as you think you are”.

And with those 2 sentences, I want to remind you all of something she said in Becky G's podcast (the very first reason why I'm here and you guys know me https://fa-by.tumblr.com/post/648191757219250176/there-is-a-light-at-the-end-of-the-tunnel) and how these 2 sentences are yet another proof of how much bullshit she had to say that day to hide her truth:

Wasn't she the one who had an ‘issue flirting with girls’ and who felt ‘disgustingly uncomfortable’ because she felt ‘like a predator’, ‘the aggressor’, ‘the one who was like the masculine energy in the scenario’, because she was ‘always the one turning her’? Wasn't she the one who didn't want to be able to ‘potentially put off that kind of vibe onto someone or invade or like anything like that’? So, WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT? And even with straight girls no less 🤦🏻‍♀️. Please, Lauren, explain yourself? Explain to the audience 🤣. Justify the bullshit you had to say about Camila by succeeding in making a lot of CS leave. Justify the bullshit you had to say in comparison with the truth and reality you said NOW.

All the chickens come home to roost, my friends. Always 🙌🏼. It doesn't matter if years go by, but the truth always comes out 🔥.

Anyway, back to Laucy 2.O. If Lauren had actually been in a relationship for a year, she wouldn't have behaved that way with another person. She wouldn't have done any of that. She wouldn't have behaved the way an available person would. This even proves by itself that the relationship is fake. The fact that she did it during a live podcast and didn't give a damn about all the fans present, proves it even more. Tsk-tsk. In a relationship for a year, HA! Don't make me laugh 😏.

Not to mention the fact that Sasha was (and maybe still is) with Baylie Olsen. Now the engagement you mentioned in the ask, there's no trace of anything like that at all as far as I know, dear Anon. It'll be part of the various bullshit that CS and other ‘fans’ made up 🤷🏻‍♀️ as usual 🙄. What I do know and can prove is the fact that Sasha and Baylie met in early May 2019 during rehearsals for the Eurovision performance which then took place on May 18, 2019, with Madonna.

They were both backup dancers throughout Madonna's Madame X era including the Madame X Tour which lasted from September 12, 2019, to March 4, 2020. And as you can see here:

They started dating loooong before August 2021, which is when Lauren and Sasha met, and that they continued to do so at least publicly until April 2022, which is even after the hang-out with the alpacas (March 14, 2022).

And these are not even all the pictures they commented on and liked on each other 🤣. There are many more that you can very well go see for yourselves on both of their profiles. So “My first Valentine” my ass, Sasha 🤣. Oh and by the way, Laur was obviously aware and supportive of their relationship:

Going back to talking about the Valentine's Day post instead: “I kinda did it very whimsically. I didn't even tell her I was gonna post it” (Zach Sang Show) – “On Valentine's Day, I did it very impulsively. I didn't even talk with them about it first” (People). Oh yeah sure, because it's totally normal to not talk to your partner about something as unimportant as making it official to the world BEFORE actually doing it, right?

Miss I prefer to live my life off of social media and keep my private life private, Miss confidentiality, Miss privacy in all respects suddenly didn't care. Miss I keep having to pretend that I was outed in 2016 and not that it was all arranged, suddenly just didn't care about doing something like that? Seriously? Suuuure. Sure, sure, sure, Jan, right. No, for real, who believes that? Who can believe that that behavior could have been normal and not something planned/arranged?

Even this alone, does nothing but prove 2 things (again, back to my very first post and Becky G's podcast and all that fake situation they created that I talked about on several occasions): 1) It reconfirms for the umpteenth time the story of the fake coming out arm-in-arm with the PR with Lucrezia um sorry, Lucy. 2) This PR with Sasha.

Why? Because someone who claims to have been haunted by being outed when she wasn't ready, DOESN'T BEHAVE THAT WAY! Someone who claims to have been traumatized by that whole experience, someone who's not an ordinary person but a public figure and therefore double haunt and trauma, DOESN'T DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT! Tell me who, after all that, wouldn't talk to their girlfriend before officially posting something romantic-wise for the first time? Who wouldn't make sure she was okay with it first? Especially since, again, we're not talking about an ordinary person. We're talking about someone famous with 12 million followers on IG.

A person who's actually gone through that kind of trauma, would never dare to do that. It wouldn't even cross their mind because they'd have respect for the person they're with. They’d also take their partner's feelings into consideration. They’d make sure that it would be okay for them even if their partner's out and proud, because they would never want to make someone else experience the trauma they themselves experienced firsthand. And honestly, tell me, does this seem to be the case for Lauren?

What I'm seeing now, from the podcast with KITTENS actually, is that they're using the strategy of showing Lauren's change. Showing more and more how she's healed and how she's more comfortable and open with her sexuality. I'm very happy about it, don't get me wrong. It's about time she could show what she in reality is since she was 17/18 years old. And I'm not even saying it's not true that for years she'd struggled with her internalized homophobia and all the other problems. Hell, we know fully well that's true. And I also understand that she had to suppress herself and follow the narratives mostly to hide Camren, let alone if I don't understand that. I'm just saying that, what I don't like is the way they made her act. Just as it doesn't sit well with me the usual incoherent love propaganda that they've already used in the past. I'll explain myself better.

Oh and, speaking of incoherent love propaganda used before. Is it only me who noticed that since that Valentine's Day post, Lauren's started talking about Sasha in interviews in the exact same way she used to talk about Ty when she was in a PR relationship with him? I mean, no differences? No imagination for something new? No? Just copy and paste? Um, okay… I- um 🤔🤨 I'll shut up 🤐.

Back to this incoherent love propaganda.

If “We're so solid, and we have such a beautiful foundation and so much trust and love between us” (People), and if “the core-” of their relationship “-is love and respect” as she said in Shannon Boodram's podcast along with other things, then where was this trust and respect when she thought (?):

Zach Sang Show: “Damn is Valentine’s Day. I’m seeing all these people post their babes, I was like, this is my baby. Like I’m in love and I don’t care. I don’t care!” --- “But like I said, Valentine’s Day came, I saw all these cute pictures and I was like, you know what? Me and baby are cute. So I’m gonna post it”.

People: “I'm in love. We'd been together for a year by that point, and I was like, ‘You know what? Fuck it’.” --- “On Valentine's Day, I did it very impulsively. I didn't even talk with them about it first. I was just seeing people post their significant others, and I was just like, ‘Dude, I'm in love. These pictures are so cute. We're so cute. People deserve to see this shit’. Queer representation is important, I think”.

So 🤔 what I grasped from both interviews is that, she did it because she didn't care and because people deserved to see that shit because queer representation is important (although I agree with that last part), but at the same time (?):

Zach Sang Show: “The layer of fame is like a whole thing. But it’s so beyond that. I think the reason I keep my private life private for the most part, is because people are so invasive and projective”. --- “Especially people who say they’re fans”. --- “There’s those other people who just are so attached to you that they feel they have ownership over you and then they just like, trash someone you love and just try to make their lives miserable or make up things about them”. --- “That part is so weird to me, so I try to keep what makes me happy away from people who want to project unhappiness onto it”.

Oh yeah, we all saw that 🤦🏻‍♀️.

I mean, I'm being sarcastic here because she was talking about Sasha's situation, which is not true. But it is the truth in reality. It's the truth that applies in her life and above all with whom? *whispered echo: 🗣️ Cameeeela*

People: “Most of my relationships, I keep under wraps, just because it's really odd to have so many strangers have an opinion about who you're choosing to love or what goes on between the two of you. But I just want to be able to love them out loud and be able to share that with people”. --- “So, people's opinions don't really don't matter. Honestly, for me, it's more so about protecting them and making sure that they don't feel attacked because fans are fans”.

Protect them/her? PROTECT HER? 🤣🤣🤣 How? By exposing her and you guys ‘relationship’ to the world without even telling her? Ahh, okay 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Exposing her for sure keeps people from attacking her precisely because she's your girlfriend, sure, undoubtedly 🤦🏻‍♀️🤣. Mh-hmm, yeah, this way of thinking would've made sooo much sense if the relationship was true 🤦🏻‍♀️🤣.

“There's other fans who call themselves fans that I don't really consider fans. People who feel very possessive over you and feel like they have a right to tell you who you should or should not be with, which is really fascinating to me because you're literally a stranger who's never met me in real life. So it's really interesting that you think about who I should or shouldn't be with. And people have prejudices. Racism is a very real thing, and I don't like when she gets attacked or people send her really crazy-ass messages or send weird messages to her family. I really wanted to avoid that, but it was kind of happening anyways because people assumed we were in a relationship. So I was just like, ‘I guess it doesn't really fully matter at this point’. We just have to ignore those kinds of people as much as we can, because sometimes they're really violent and need to be handled. But for the most part, it's really just harmless, online shit”.

Putting aside the part where I super agree that people need to stop harassing them (Camren) and the people in their lives, let's talk about “I really wanted to avoid that, but it was kind of happening anyways because people assumed we were in a relationship” and “I guess it doesn't really fully matter at this point”.

She really wanted to avoid that, but she did it anyway, because she guessed it didn't really fully matter at that point because people assumed they were in a relationship?? Really??? What kind of protection would this be????

So, wait, wait, wait. From the top.

She wanted to avoid letting people know because she wanted to protect her and make sure she and her family weren't attacked, then Valentine's Day came along and she thought fuck it. Fuck her own privacy, fuck the protection of Sasha and her family, and fuck their trust and respect because, given that she saw people posting their significant other, she whimsically and impulsively decided to do the same. She revealed their relationship to the whole world without TELLING HER ANYTHING FIRST because she didn't care, because people deserved to see that shit because queer representation is important, and because she guessed it didn't really fully matter at that point because people already assumed they were in a relationship.

I mean… WHAT?????

What in the world? What in the inconsistency? What kind of contradiction is all this? No really. Was all of that more important than her own girlfriend? Seriously?? No, I'm sorry. This is yet another proof of how fake and organized all this is.

From a logical point of view, it's impossible for me to think that Lauren just didn't care. It's impossible to think that she did it by putting all of that above her girlfriend's respect and trust. It's impossible to think they didn't talk about it before posting. It's impossible period.

This is Lauren we’re talking about here! Empathetic, caring, selfless, sensitive, and with a great emotional connection Lauren! The real Lauren would never do something like this. She would never put her own needs before those of someone she cares about. To quote Alastor ‘Mad-Eye’ Moody in Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire: ‘End of story. Goodbye. The end.’ Sorry but I had to 😅🤣. The conversation required a final quote 🙃.

But anyway. The bottom line of this charade: supposedly met on August 13, 2021, months without saying they had crushes on each other, non-existent dinner the night before going to Miami after which Laur texted her that she liked her and Sasha reciprocated, and therefore they got together supposedly the same night on December 18, 2021. Throughout all this, Sasha and Baylie were still together even still publicly, and Laur continued to act ‘single’ until Valentine's Day of the following year (2023).

Make it make sense! Make it make sense, seriously! But no hey, we know that a PR relationship MUST create doubts in people's heads and MUST NOT look perfect at all otherwise people would get bored and not speculate about it. Right, my bad I almost forgot 🤦🏻‍♀️.

So, this is the timeline, dear Anon. As for your question “Why would Lauren get into a relationship with someone else who is in a relationship?”, in my opinion, the better question would be ‘why did Sasha agree to do this since she was/maybe still is in a relationship?’. She was/is the one in a normal public relationship contrary to Laur who has a hidden one.

For Lauren it's business and it's convenient for many things. It's a cover for Camren and the songs, and it helps her queer image. Again “Queer representation is important”. But Sasha? Who knows. As I also said at the beginning, she benefits from both the money made from the contract and, more importantly, the visibility in the industry for her work. For the rest, I don't know how it went.

Lauren was looking for a girl for PR. Maybe Lauren was talking about it in general as friends do, and Sasha volunteered. Maybe Sasha talked about it with Baylie who, being an artist and a dancer as well and who therefore understands that lifestyle, agreed with it. Or maybe it was Lo's old management's idea after seeing them dance at the August rehearsal since we know very well how gays think, and they anticipated the reaction that inevitably happened later with the Prelude live. Or maybe it was Lauren's own idea since she has more freedom in her choices and she proposed it to her. I don't know. I don't know this. There's no proof around yet. I can only speculate.

Fact is that I don't see Lauren in a bad light here. It's not the first time she's been portrayed as a homewrecker and a traitor. They tried it before with the Lauren, Lucy, Ty, and Alycia Bella (ex of Ty) square story, and they tried again now with Sasha and Baylie. I didn't fall for it then and I don't fall for it now. You know why? Because it's all fake. I said it before and I also explained it in my PR stunt relationships - ɟ post: a PR relationship MUST create doubts in people's heads and MUST NOT look perfect at all otherwise people would get bored and not speculate about it.

So, dear Anon, the best thing to do in these cases is not to ask yourself questions like “Why would Lauren get into a relationship with someone else who is in a relationship?” since it's all fake and organized to entertain an audience, but it's to not ask yourself these kinds of questions at all precisely because it's all fake and organized to entertain an audience. But if you really have to, ask yourself questions that go arm-in-arm with reality and not Hollywood fiction 😉.

I hope I helped you understand as you hoped 🙃.

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Aaand I'm done 👅. I hope you're both happy with this analysis 🤗.

Thanks to all the others for the other asks which, as I said at the beginning of the post, you'll get answered in the usual Q&A post I started 🙃. As usual, I'm always available for those who have questions, so ask away 😄.

Remember to be nice. Always. Both with others and with yourselves. Be a good example. Be patient. Be safe and take care of yourselves. Don't let our ship sink. Keep shipping them, but please respectfully 🙏🏼. Sending you virtual love and hugs 🤗🤗🤗. I love you, babies. Always with love, F ❤️.

[romanticentropy]

Hi! I'm sorry I'm super late 😅

I am aware of everything that happened and continues to happen to the girls, trust me 🤭🤣.

I can attest, she's the Camren Archives, she always knows everything about them 🤣

What is the BIG reason she has for doing this in your opinion other than to get publicity for their future albums? I'm curious to know 😜.

SAME! Please let us know!

As for your question, none of the above you listed 🤣. It was Sofi, my dear 🤣.

The laughter 🤣 Sofi's grown up!

Along with those two posts, I'd like to add that Mila kept the song for years to be able to use it again on a future album, and when the time came, the label had the brilliant idea to change it into a duet to be used with the oh so precious Mr. Mentos (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfTztRPWwKU released on Apr 23, 2023). The song was eventually scrapped and Mila decided to sell HER solo version thus acting as a ghostwriter. Version that was officially released by FLETCHER in 2021.

🙄 why does he have to be in everything she does? @fa-by did Cami make any solo demo of Healing that (was leaked and) we can hear without him getting in the way?

BTW, I was curious about Fletcher's version of Healing and I read a comment that made me laugh bitterly:

It's sad how we never know who writes the songs, especially in the pop industry (this is less usual in the rock genre, which I love). We associate them to a particular image that we make up of each artist, but in the end they were probably written by someone we couldn't even imagine. To me, it makes music feel a bit unauthentic, like a painter painting a picture from another painter's canvas: it can be beautiful, it can even be painted better, but it's not their meaning, it's not their truth. Is that bad? I don't know, maybe it is, since Lauren said several times that it was hard to sing songs that she couldn't connect with. Maybe it's a good thing, in a way, because it allows composers who do not like the fame (or don't have the voice) to share their art with the whole world, through the face of another person. I'm not sure how important it is that a singer writes their own songs. I like it better when they do, though.

I don't know if Fletcher changed parts of the lyrics to adjust to her reality, but still, the comment above reminded me how I feel about singers who do not write their songs.

Also this goes to show that ghostwriting is not an extraordinary thing, it's actually pretty ordinary, am I right @fa-by?

I love you, my favorite F anon ❤️

Hugs everybody!!

Hi to you too, dear Anon 👋🏼😄, and thank you very much🙏🏼 it’s good to be back 🤗.

[It’s good that you are well despite the adversities I know that you have not promised to answer all the questions that we ask you as often as you did before, but I hope that from time to time in your free time you can answer the questions.]

Yep, that’s exactly what I’m gonna do and indeed, here I am answering asks 😜.

[Many things have happened within the fandom, one of them is that Lauren has been in a new “relationship” for a while now, I know you are not aware of the fandom or the girls]

I am aware of everything that happened and continues to happen to the girls, trust me 🤭🤣. Just because I disappeared from here for a while doesn’t mean I didn’t keep following everything 😉.

[I would like to know your point of view about the new PR?]

For independent artists in general, it’s much more difficult to gain visibility and publicity without the backing of a major record label. Luckily for Laur because of her past, she already has a fanbase and therefore doesn’t have to build one from scratch, but that doesn’t mean it’s a lifelong fanbase. Fans come and go for one reason or another, but it’s up to the singers/artists to keep people engaged by any means necessary. Why?

Because singers/artists earn and get paid only because people like them. Without fans, there would be no streams for their music and therefore no concerts and tickets&merchandises sales, no interviews, no invitations to events, no awards, no visibility, no publicity, no nothing. Absolutely nothing. No fans equal no money and fame. No fans equal no celebrity. They’d simply go back to being ordinary people like you and me.

So, by “it’s up to the singers/artists to keep people engaged by any means necessary” I was also implicitly talking about PRs of course. Just because Laur’s independent doesn’t mean she has the freedom to do whatever she wants on every front, especially since she’s tied to the old legally binding contracts. The industry’s rules haven’t changed. Lo’s been in the industry for almost 11 years and therefore knows very well that especially now that she’s independent she has to continue to follow those industry rules to gain visibility and publicity without the backing of a major record label. The only thing that has changed for her now that she’s independent is that she has more freedom to pull the strings on some things, and among them, the choice of her PR: Sasha Mallory.

Sasha’s nothing more than a rebound for the contract with Lucy Vives. The new Lucy *and I hope they’re a good person unlike Lucia*. Sasha is a non-binary friend who’s attracted to women and is a dancer, ergo is in the same industry and therefore understands and can perfectly help Lauren on both fronts by also being part of the LGBTQIA+ community. Sasha’s the new cover for Camren, especially for the connection in the songs. The purpose of the PR with Sasha is the same as any other PRs: attention, speculation, publicity. That’s all, my dear Anon 😄.

Hi to you too, dear Anon 👋🏼😄. I believe the previous answer answers your questions 🤣. It makes me happy that you’re happy that I’m back and I hope you’re having a good start to the week as well 🤗.

I’ll copy what I wrote in my previous post: “They’re simply testing the waters and creating havoc, aka publicity, before Mila’s debut with the new label. That’s it 🤷🏻‍♀️. Nothing new. Ignore them as I do.”

Plus, Mila didn’t put herself in any position because she can’t decide shit 🤣. They put her, again. As I explained in my PR stunt relationships - ɟ post which I recommend you read to better understand how things work 😉, contracts can provide that two people who have already had a PR in the past can have it again in the future.

What is the BIG reason she has for doing this in your opinion other than to get publicity for their future albums? I’m curious to know 😜.

Oh and, dear Anon? I’d appreciate a hi/hey before the questions in the future please. Thanks 🙏🏼 and have a great day too.

Hi to you too, dear Anon 👋🏼😄. I am now thanks 🤗, I hope you are too.

As for your question, none of the above you listed 🤣. It was Sofi, my dear 🤣.

Hi to you @camilalauren0327 👋🏼😄!!! No no, I’m here don’t worry 🙃. Thanks for stopping by to say hi, I really appreciate it. I hope you’re having a great day too 🤗.

Hello to you too, dear Anon 👋🏼😄. Happy (almost half) 2023 to you too, dear 🥳.

I think (also because of the songs and what Lauren said) that Camila thought and knew that Lauren liked her, especially physically, and that’s why they had the fuckbuddies relationship. Mila also knew that Lauren only wanted sex without feelings because she knew Lo was scared and in denial. So she waited. She waited until then she could wait no longer.

P.S. Did you resend an ask you sent me at the beginning of the year? You know, because of the happy 2023.

Hello to you too, dear Anon 👋🏼😄. Is this soon enough 😜?

1) Yes, I think so 😄.

2) 9 years. All these years. Since 2014 definitely. Not just 2017-2023, but since 2014. I think this simply because even though they had breaks and breakups lasting 3 months at most, they always got back together.

Hi to you too, dear Anon 👋🏼😄 and thanks. It’s an unreleased song called Healing that Mila wrote for The Hurting. The Healing. The Loving. I talked about it here https://fa-by.tumblr.com/post/674774346304290816/hello-babies-and-dear-anons-not-the-qa and here https://fa-by.tumblr.com/post/674845686765862912/wait-faby-so-the-healing-was-cs-song-for-the.

Along with those two posts, I’d like to add that Mila kept the song for years to be able to use it again on a future album, and when the time came, the label had the brilliant idea to change it into a duet to be used with the oh so precious Mr. Mentos (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfTztRPWwKU released on Apr 23, 2023). The song was eventually scrapped and Mila decided to sell HER solo version thus acting as a ghostwriter. Version that was officially released by FLETCHER in 2021.

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Aaand I’m done 👅. Thank you all for your asks and I hope I’ve been helpful this time too 🙃. As usual, I’m always available for those who have questions, so ask away 😄.

Remember to be nice. Always. Both with others and with yourselves. Be a good example. Be patient. Be safe and take care of yourselves. Don’t let our ship sink. Keep shipping them, but please respectfully 🙏🏼. Sending you virtual love and hugs 🤗🤗🤗. I love you, babies. Always with love, F ❤️.

[romanticentropy]

Everybody listen!!!!! My favorite F-Anon is back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm so happy to see you return to writing, I know how much you love it ❤️ I'm also happy to see how much love you receive from people here!! You're in our hearts 😍

I adopted a beautiful puppy girl in September of this year 😍🤩

She's definitely the cutest baby on Earth!!! 😍

What happened at Coachella and that we saw all over the internet is shit 💩

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I laughed like crazy when I read that part!!! You're so right 🤣 (yeah!! not unusual!!)

my girlfriend whom you also know well came to me here in Italy twice; once for three months last year, and once for our 2-year anniversary this year by staying for almost a month ❤🥰😍🤩

🥰 I can't wait to be back with you ❤️

🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

In case anyone is wondering, I don't think I'll be back writing on my own topics. I have a lot of stuff going on and I'm pretty sure I won't be around often. But surely I'll be here to support my super funny girlfiend 🤩 (and perhaps to reblog some Pterrible Dinosaur Drawings, just because I love them 🤣)

Hugs to everybody ❤️

PS: There was a very kind anon who requested that I write an analysis on Bad Things (a lot of time ago), and I never did. I'm sorry!! Every single time I listen to Bad Things I remember about you. I hope I'll make it happen sometime!!

Did you miss me?

Hey my babies 👋🏼🤗. How are you? Wow, has it really been that long? It’s been 1 year and 2 months apparently and it doesn’t seem so 😅. I feel like a part of me should apologize for the absence, so I’m sorry 🙏🏼 but, to be completely honest, the other part of me doesn’t want to justify because this is just an app we use to distract ourselves from the reality of daily life 🤭🤣. So, for those who have been wondering, my recap is that I’m 31 now, I’ve been unhealthy/sick for several things, last year I grieved for my baby girl dog who passed away after 12 years (and who took a piece of my soul with her), I changed my job and I’m being mobbed by my boss every day 😅. The several most important good news? I adopted a beautiful puppy girl in September of this year 😍🤩 and my girlfriend whom you also know well came to me here in Italy twice; once for three months last year, and once for our 2-year anniversary this year by staying for almost a month ❤🥰😍🤩. Oh and, of course, I’ve started writing again as of today. This obviously has to be put among the good news 🤣. I won’t hide from you that I’ve missed writing, so here I am, although I can’t promise that I’ll be very active in answering the asks as before due to my various commitments, but I’ll try to be here more often 😉.

P.S. I’ll only post the 6 most recent asks I’ve received because I didn’t want to create a way too long post, but thanks to everyone for the recent and past messages (even last year’s ones) ❤🙏🏼.

You broke my heart with that emoji 🥺. I’m here, dear @sweet-dreamcs​ ❤.

I’m here, my dear Anon 😄. I’m all ears 👂🏼 and I’ve missed all of you too.

Hello to you too, dear Anon 👋🏼😄, I answered about my health in the recap at the beginning of the post, thanks for your concern 🤗. I’m fine now, how are you? I hope well 😊.

I do still ship Camren, how could I not? 🤣 I’ll ship them forever 😜. And yeah, I saw Laur’s new “relationship”, if you want to call it that. I, on the other hand, like to call it for what it is: PR. And that I think explains my thoughts about it 😉.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 well thank you, my dear Anon😄. I like being right 😉. No, I’m just kidding no, I’m not 🤣. Joking aside now, I’ve already told you guys in the past that everything I post comes from the research I do and that therefore I post only the truth with proofs.

Anyway, yeah I’m not interested in the version with Señorito 😑, I’m just waiting for Mila’s undistorted one now. Oh and, my dear? I’m ready for the thousand questions 🤣.

I’m here, dear Anon 😄. As you said yourself, they’re both PRs, so don’t worry. And I mean it for real. I don’t know how I could reassure you guys any better than that since you already know how it works. It’s not the first time we’ve endured it and it certainly won’t be the last. Be strong as always, my dear 💪🏼. Don’t talk about them around on social media because that’s what they want, and hang on. That’s my advice, my dear.

Hey to you, dear Anon 👋🏼😄, and I’m okay now. Thanks for asking and I hope you’re okay too 😊. Well, how can I answer your question correctly? 🤔🤔

The answer is in your question itself, my dear 🤣. What happened at Coachella and that we saw all over the internet is shit 💩. Yet another display of poor acting. It’s as simple as this 🤣. No but, for real. They’re simply testing the waters and creating havoc, aka publicity, before Mila’s debut with the new label. That’s it 🤷🏻‍♀️. Nothing new. Ignore them as I do.

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I thank everyone for your concern for me and for continuing to write to me and wanting me back 🥰. I also thank you for the asks and I hope I’ve been helpful this time too 🙃. I’m always available for those who have questions, so feel free to ask 😄. Aaaand let’s bring back my tradition, shall we? 👅.

Remember to be nice. Always. Both with others and with yourselves. Be a good example. Be patient. Be safe and take care of yourselves. Don’t let our ship sink. Keep shipping them, but please respectfully 🙏🏼. Sending you virtual love and hugs 🤗🤗🤗. I love you, babies. Always with love, F❤️.

[romanticentropy]

Thank you so much, Celeste! 🥰 @yu-heavenlybody Sending a lot of love your way!!

Only Told the Moon

Hey my babies 👋🏼🤗. As I promised I would, ta-daaah 🎉✨🎊.

So 😁, today I wanna talk to you about the spectral theory of linear operators in Hilbert spaces and tensor analysis.

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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I’m kidding of course 🤣. The title of the post already says today’s topic. You guys thank the K Anon for the ask.

Hi K 👋🏼😄. Have a nice day too and hope you like it 😊.

So. Camila wrote and produced Only Told the Moon in a hotel room by using GarageBand, a software to create music developed by Apple that can also be used by those who don’t know how to play any musical instrument. A snippet was leaked in 2016, but then the entire song was leaked on Feb 16, 2017. Mila started writing it in 2014 when she was 17, and finished it at 18 the following year in 2015. And when did she ‘say’ that she’d completed it? On Lauren’s birthday:

Why don’t you put an even bigger sign that directly says “THIS IS FOR LAUREN!” next time, Mila? 🤣 I mean, of all days, right on her birthday? Okay 🤣. But thanks tho 😉🤭.

There’s also this one here which I’m pretty sure was another hint to the lyrics:

We know how much Mila likes the moon:

We know how much Mila likes the sun and the moon: Ahem-ahem, her sun… 😎

And this one here… I mean, Mila???? On her birthday the following year? AGAIN??????? 🤣🤣🤣

But this one… Ooooh, this one! 🤭🤣

Mila, bish! Are you really gonna tell me that when you posted it, you didn’t know that it was actually the edit of THIS one?

Little story for you. It was early March 2016 and I’d been in the fandom for a very very short time. This Camren fanart was one of the first I saw. At the time, however, I saw the original. As you can see, this one is cropped and the quality is not the best. I tried to look for the original which was of the same quality as the edited one that Mila posted, but I unfortunately couldn’t find it anywhere. The point is that I saw it. That one was created first. That one was actually the original. Then it was edited, maybe by the same person who created it, but I don’t know that. But I do know with absolute certainty, also because everyone said it at the time, that that one was created first. So, my question remains the same:

Are you really gonna tell me that when you posted it, you didn’t know that it was actually the edit of THIS one?? KARLA CAMILA CABELLO ESTRABAO!!!!!!!!!!! COME ON, NOW!!!! WHO ARE YOU KIDDING???? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

But back to being serious now. We have ‘the classic’ one:

That’s the famous sun and moon artwork (created by Zias and posted on the artist website DeviantArt). It was the first one to be used by fans as cover art for the song when the snippet was leaked in 2016. We saw Mila use it many times on her social networks:

And we even saw it worn on her sweatshirt on November 27, 2015, in Mexico for The Reflection Tour, both for an interview with Telehit and for the meet & greet:

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There are obviously tons of other pics and tweets where Mila talked about the sun and the moon, but I think these ones are enough. Let’s focus on the song now. I love this song 🥰. This song made me realize how talented Mila was, since she was only 17 when she started it. How much of a great songwriter she was already at the time since this is one of the first songs she wrote 100% on her own and without professional help. Then honestly the fact that it was so complex, made me like it 100 times more 😜.

But anyway, I advise you to mentally prepare yourselves because this is the longest interpretation I’ve done so far. Make yourselves a sandwich, or a coffee, or I don’t know, something that can accompany you on the journey 😄. Oh and, as usual, you can even disagree with me, but this is the way I see it 😊.

Okay, ready? Let’s go! 🙌🏼

Verse 1:

“Stay back, stay long

And you, move on

I stress, come close

Move on, please don’t”

One of the things I love the most about this song is how cryptic it is 😍, and I think you know by now how much of a sucker I am for deciphering things 😏. So what do we have here? We have words, but something doesn’t add up. There appear to be holes. As if there were missing pieces of a sentence, right? Well, that’s because it is like that. Or at least, it is for me. On whole sentences, Mila only used a few words. So basically, it was as if she’d removed the rest because the meaning of those words alone, had the same concept as one or more whole sentences. I’ll explain better with an example:

“On my way home after work last night, I tripped on a really dirty sidewalk and fell to my knees by tearing off my new polka dotted pantyhose that I loved, and breaking the heel of my shoe because I was distracted looking at my phone”. Now, that’s the whole sentence. But if I just write “On my way home. I fell. Distracted.” in that same cryptic way, wouldn’t you understand anyway that the fact of the matter is that I fell? Wouldn’t you understand anyway even without the need to know all those details in the whole sentence that my distracted ass was on the ground? I really think so. Oh and, just to clarify, this didn’t really happen. I’m not clumsy and I certainly don’t work in heels 🤣. It was just an example I created for you to understand. Let’s move on 🙃.

So, what was Mila actually talking about? What is the meaning behind it? We have ‘Stay back, stay long’ which makes us understand both their usual back-and-forth/cycle/loop, and how Camila was the one who broke up with Lauren and that then wanted her back. When? When ‘And you, move on’; aka when Laur had found someone else. Oh and, the ‘And you’ is a question. You can notice it by listening to the way she sings it: And you? Move on.

‘I stress, come close - Move on, please don’t’. These two, already at the time (2017) made me understand that Mila wasn’t really talking to Laur. They were just thoughts in her head that she, however, didn’t tell her 100% for pride reasons. She broke up with her, saw that Lo was moving on, and instead of telling her in person how much she wanted her close/back (come close) and how much she didn’t want her to move on (Move on, please don’t), she talked to herself by repeating it (I stress) over and over again in her head. I understood this especially because the ‘Move on’ is a question and the ‘please don’t’ is the reaction to the affirmative answer of the question. It was like: Mila saw Lo with someone else and thought “Is she moving on? Oh, no. No, no, no, no, no, please no!”. As with ‘And you’, if you listen closely, you can clearly hear that it’s a question and that Mila says “Move on? Please don’t”.

Therefore, to recap. Stay back, which literally means that Mila told her to leave her alone/stay away from her, aka the artistic way she used to describe the moment she broke up with her. Then she regretted it. She wanted her back and wanted Lo to stay with her for a long time, aka for good (stay long). But what did Laur do? (And you“?”) She moved on (move on) [Sure, Jan]. And when Mila realized this (Move on“?”), she started thinking by emphasizing/repeating (I stress) in her head over and over again how much she wanted her close/back (come close) because, obviously, she didn’t want Lo to move on (please don’t).

Pre-Chorus 1:

“Hello, how are you? How you’ve been?

Lately I wonder how it feels to steal your kiss

Nothing much, just fine, I’m doing well

And you can read between the lines but God, I fell”

Ohhh, I can read between the lines, baby!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 All kidding aside🤣, I’m serious now. We have another little riddle here. A puzzle, or rather, a game. A game with sentences, a game with the various meanings behind it, and, above all, a game with personal pronouns. Actually, the whole motherfucking song is based on these three things 🤣. But anyway.

With the first two sentences (Hello, how are you? How you’ve been? - Lately I wonder how it feels to steal your kiss), it might have seemed at first as if Mila was asking those questions to Laur, right? Right. And with ‘Nothing much, just fine, I’m doing well - And you can read between the lines but God, I fell’, it might have seemed at first as if Lo had answered her that, right? Right. But then you’ll have stopped for a moment and said “Wait a minute! Hold on, hold on, hold on, wait a fucking minute! If Laur had moved on in the first verse, why on earth would she tell Mila to read between the lines right after telling her she was doing well? [Reading between the lines means finding the subtext/implication, and in this case, I’m doing well, means the exact opposite read between the lines: I’m NOT doing well] It wouldn’t make sense because she would never have admitted it for a pride matter.”

So you must have thought it was the other way around. That it was Lauren the one who was asking Camila those questions, right? Right. But then the confusion will have entered again because, again, if Laur was moving on in the first verse, why after the questions would she have told her that lately she was wondering how it would feel to steal her kiss? Why move on and simply not get back with her as Mila also secretly wanted (I stress, come close - Move on, please don’t)? It would’ve been a contradiction. And therefore you must have thought, “Okay, Lauren asked her the two questions, but everything else in the sentences was just Camila, right? That’s gotta be it. Right? Right.” WROOONG! It’s all wrong 🤣. As I said before, it’s game with sentences, a game with the various meanings behind it, and, above all, a game with personal pronouns.

This song, this whole song is a confession. A confession of how things had gone and how things were still going between Camila and Lauren. A confession that Mila made. To whom? Who was she telling all these things to? The freaking song title is the answer 🤣: Only Told the Moon. For Mila, the moon is a friend. A protector who watches over her and from whom she ‘goes’ to confide, especially when she feels alone.

So. I explained the game in the first verse, but what’s the game in the first pre-chorus?

In the first verse, Mila talked to the moon about what happened between her and Lauren by using the present tense. As if she was reliving the memories. But in reality,  they were things that had already happened. In the first pre-chorus indeed, she used ‘Lately I wonder’; thing that makes us understand how some time had passed since the first verse, that is, since Mila had broken up with Laur to then regretting it while Lo was moving on. In the first pre-chorus, however, Mila explained to the moon the things that had happened in the period after the breakup. She explained to the moon how she was being asked if she was okay, and that even though she answered that she was, she actually wasn’t okay at all. Yeah guys 🤣, it was actually external people who asked those two questions to Camila, and not Lauren to Camila or vice versa. Before you get confused for the umpteenth time 🤣, let me go on so you’ll understand what I mean 🙃.

Read the first pre-chorus in this way by pretending that the two sentences I crossed out don’t exist for a moment, okay?

Hello, how are you? How you’ve been?

Lately I wonder how it feels to steal your kiss

Nothing much, just fine, I’m doing well

And you can read between the lines but God, I fell

Those are two questions and that’s an answer to both. And so far, so good. It’s very simple. I also explained to you that Mila in the song was telling and confessing everything to the moon, and therefore, this also excludes the moon itself from the sentences that I haven’t crossed out. But in the last sentence, on the other hand, we have the moon as a referent (I’ll explain that shortly), and that’s why I said that those who asked Mila those questions were external people. If you still have doubts about it, think about it for a moment. Those are questions you ask a person you haven’t seen for a while, and what sense would it have made for one of them (Camren) to ask the other ‘Hello, how are you? How you’ve been?’ if we know perfectly well that they were together 24-7? 😏

Now that I hope I’ve removed this doubt as well, let’s move on. As I was saying, in the first pre-chorus Mila explained to the moon the things that had happened after the breakup. She explained to the moon how people asked her how she was: Hello, how are you? How you’ve been?. And since she wasn’t okay, those questions immediately made her think of Lo.

You know when you’re talking to someone and your mind spaces out thinking about something else? Maybe because that someone said something that reminded you of that thing that’s distracting you from the conversation. Well, we know how short Camila’s attention span is and how easily distracted she is 🤣. But, while that’s usually funny because, I mean, it’s Camila, and it’s one of the billions of reasons why I love her, in this case of the song, her mind spaced out on Laur because she was suffering for her. So in that timeframe between immediately after the questions and before the answer, and because of the questions, Mila thought about Lo and how she would’ve wanted to kiss her: Lately I wonder how it feels to steal your kiss. It was like, people: “Hello, how are you? How you’ve been?” – Mila by thinking of Laur ‘Lately I wonder how it feels to steal your kiss’ to then answering:

“Nothing much, just fine, I’m doing well. I’m just as good as an ass sitting on a cactus, thanks for asking. What about you?”.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 All kidding aside now. Immediately after thinking of Laur, Mila came back to reality and, as you saw up here, she answered with the bullshit that she was doing well: Nothing much, just fine, I’m doing well.

Sometimes the people who ask you those questions do it because they’re fond of you and there’s really an interest on their part in knowing how you’re doing. Others, still those ones who are fond of you, ask them to you because they saw or already knew that something was wrong, and it’s their way of letting you vent to help you (sometimes that doesn’t work because you prefer to lie to them despite trusting them simply because you don’t want to talk about it). Then there are those ones who ask you just for gossip and not because they really care about you; especially if they saw that something was wrong, they can’t wait to know the reason to then go gossiping by telling someone else everything. And lastly, there are those ones who ask you just out of courtesy. Like, for example, the typical two-second encounter that happens when you see someone you know: “Heeey, hi, how are you?” whose answer is always “I’m good. How are you?” even if you feel like shit, “I’m good. See ya”, you know? These are questions that you ask others yourself as well. Everyone does and no one really cares about the answer because, whether you’re really okay or not, the answer is always “I’m good/fine/okay” regardless, because you wouldn’t talk about personal matters with someone you don’t trust, and same thing for them towards you.

In Mila’s case, we know that 5H were always surrounded by people. Especially on tour or on promotional weeks, they saw and met people every day. Their team, sound engineers, assistants, photographers, interviewers, fans, etc., etc. People in general. So, “Hello, how are you? How you’ve been?”, whether they were courtesy questions or not, Mila still received them every day even several times a day from different people.

Moving forward we find a slight change of scenery. This is where the moon comes into play as an actual referent. From telling the moon about their breakup and what happened both immediately after and a short while after it, Mila spoke in the present-present by addressing the moon directly: “And you can read between the lines but God, I fell”. Meaning: You, moon, you can read between the lines and understand that I answered those questions with bullshit because I’m not doing well. I broke up with her, she started moving on, I regret it, and now I feel terrible because I miss her. I know she’s kinda dating somebody else, but God, I fell in love with her and I want her back.

I had the confirmation that I was even more right about both first verse and first pre-chorus (and the song in general actually) in the years that followed thanks to five other songs: three unreleased ones and two officially released ones. These songs are: XO (I Don’t Miss Ya) leaked in 2020, Cry for Me officially released in 2019 as a promotional single for Romance, Must Be Love leaked in 2019, Used to This officially released in 2019 with Romance, and Closure leaked in 2022. That one, plus Only Told the Moon, is the order of the music timeline concerning the post-breakup period [XO (I Don’t Miss Ya), Cry for Me, Must Be Love, Used to This, Closure, and Only Told the Moon]. I’ll explain better why to you:

Camren officially got together in early April 2014 and broke up in late November of the same year (Camila was 17). To be precise, it was Mila who broke up with Lo. I’m not just saying that because I understood it from this song (Only Told the Moon) which was the first of those five we had (2017). I’m saying that because Camila herself said it two years later and therefore I had confirmation of it. But we’ll get there shortly. Let me follow the order of the music timeline.

So. Mila broke up with Lo. Their first breakup since they were official. Laur was certainly not happy about it but, she sure as hell behaved as if she were, aka XO (I Don’t Miss Ya). Lo was hurt and, driven by anger, she acted as if she cared neither that Mila broke up with her and the reasons why she did, nor Mila herself. She acted as if she was better off without her. Partially true because soon after, she found someone else to ‘move on with’ briefly.

Examples of what I told you in the song: Lo was hurt and, driven by anger, she acted as if she cared neither that Mila broke up with her and the reasons why she did (So keep your feelings inside of your head. I like you better when you keep em’ there. Don’t let me know, don’t let me know. Unfortunately, I don’t miss ya //// “Don’t let me know, don’t let me know”, funny how exactly two years later [2016], she asked her the exact opposite in Let Me Know [interpretation here, penultimate ask]), nor Mila herself (I don’t need nobody to make me feel good - & - Used to be xo, now we’re exes). She acted as if she was better off without her. (Appreciate it when you’re not around. I like you better when you’re out of town. Better alone, better alone. Unfortunately, I don’t miss ya). Partially true because soon after, she found someone else to ‘move on with’ briefly.

That, on the other hand, resulted in anger in Mila triggered by jealousy, aka I’m Pissed Off You’re Happy (“I’m pissed off you’re happy, you’re happy y-y-y-y-y. I’m pissed off you’re happy, without me e-e-e-e-e”), which in turn years later became what we know as Cry for Me. And now I can tell you when Mila herself said she broke up with her: (here, min 2:31) Camila: “I broke up with somebody, and I was like: ‘okay’. But then, a few days after, I would just see them- just looking so happy, so radiant, like, dating someone else so quickly; and I was like: ‘Wait! Like, that was so- I knew you were gonna move on, but that was really, really fast. Like, I feel jealous that you were able to move on and be happy so much faster than me’”.

So basically: Mila broke up with her and she was like ‘I’m okay with it. I did the right thing’. Lo, hurt, acted like ‘Better this way. I don’t give a shit. I’m happy like this’, and I’m also convinced that it was out of spite that she kinda started dating someone else. And Mila became jealous and angry. It was like, she saw her happy? = “Well, you look so happy walking down the street, don’t you, babe? - & - And you’re okay, you’re okay, how can you be okay? No, why won’t you cry?”. The fact that Lo wasn’t hurt (only according to her since Laur didn’t show it) from the breakup and her, infuriated Mila.

Mila learned that Lo was already dating someone else, and instead of telling her that she wasn’t okay with it, out of even more anger and pride, Mila told her she was happy for her = “When I said I hope you’re happy, didn’t mean it”. Then the increasingly angry and jealous reasoning started in her head, still because, out of pride, she didn’t say anything to Laur: “Never thought you’d be so good at moving on - & - You said that in this lifetime you could never get over me? Are you over me? - & - Who can make you forget about me? - & - I want you to cry for me, cry for me - & - And it’s time you know the feeling”. Lastly followed by the regret of having broken up with Lo and the wanting things back the way they were: “Tears in my eyes, yeah - & - Say you’d die for me, die for me. And if you can’t, then baby, lie for me, lie for me. ‘Cause you haunt me when I’m dreamin’”.

Cry for Me was jealousy, and anger, and pride, but also regret. That’s where Mila realized both that she’d fucked up and that she wanted Laur back. We can also notice the difference between what she actually told her “When I said I hope you’re happy”, and what instead she really thought “didn’t mean it ” & “Move on? Please don’t” of the Only Told the Moon’s first verse. All that, resulted in something else. The realization of being in love with her, aka Must Be Love: “Must be love. Or this wouldn’t hurt so much. And I wouldn’t think so much. And I could just give you up”. The Must Be Love’s falling in love, is a connection that we find both with “And you can read between the lines but God, I fell” in the Only Told the Moon’s pre-chorus, and with “seventeen when I started to fall” in Used to This. If that’s why, we also find it with “And maybe people like me love too much” in Closure, but let’s talk about Used to This first.

Used to This is about the difference in their behaviors between when they were fuckbuddies and when they officially got together. About how Mila was getting used to being her girlfriend. The last part, however, is linked to the other three previous songs (XO (I Don’t Miss Ya), Cry for Me, and Must Be Love), which is when she broke up with her, regretting it and then wanting her back: the parts in the song parenthesis “(I’ll risk it all. Seventeen when I started to fall, but we lost it all, and I just can’t believe it all)”. And yes, guys, it’s seventeen when I started to fall. I, not we. I think you know me by now and that therefore you know that I don’t say bullshit because, unless I’m just telling you my theories and opinions about something, I always do my research before speaking. But in case any of you have any doubts, here. It’s written in the booklet:

Now that you’ve also seen it, can you do Mila (and me too) a favor? Can you please stop saying we? Thanks 🙏🏼🤣. Let’s move on to Closure.

After she realized she was in love with her, the fear of losing her forever set in because, as we’ve seen, Lo was acting as if she didn’t care about Mila anymore (And I hope that you care, that you’re there. It’s killing me - & - But the phone won’t ring ‘cause, darling, do I mean a thing?) and she was moving on with someone else (Then you moved on and I can’t carry on). Mila still had some hope (I want closure. Tell me it’s not over (it can’t be over, it can’t be over). Let me live in my fantasy where you still think of me), but the more time passed, the more she was little by little losing that hope. And we lastly arrive at Only Told the Moon. Last song (so far) that encompasses that chapter before they got back together.

In Only Told the Moon, as I started to explain to you, Mila told the moon everything that had happened from the breakup to the back then present, where her having hope and not giving up was rewarded (you’ll see later in the interpretation). That, in the reality happened at the end of December 2014/early January 2015 where we even saw the appearance of two rings 😏. I talked about it in a fairytale way and therefore not saying about the breakup but only about a fight in the 🗯️ - ɟ post: [Right click on the pic and go to ‘open image in a new tab’. Go to the tab that has just opened, and click on the image with the magnifying glass with the + sign in it to see and read everything better]

So that breakup lasted for about a month and a couple of weeks. Now I can go back to my Only Told the Moon ’s interpretation.

So. Brief summary. In the first verse, Camila was like: “So, my friend (moon), it all started like this…”. (Stay back) she broke up with her. She regretted it and wanted her back with her for good (stay long), but (And you“?”, move on) Laur was moving on [Sure, Jan 🤣]. When Mila found out (Move on“?”), she started thinking by emphasizing/repeating (I stress) in her head over and over again how much she wanted her close/back (come close) because, of course, she didn’t want Lo to move on (please don’t). And in the first pre-chorus, Camila began explaining to the moon the things that had happened in the period after the breakup. Mila by still talking to the moon: “People asked me how I was (people: Hello, how are you? How you’ve been?), but before answering them (Mila: Nothing much, just fine, I’m doing well), I was attacked by thoughts about Lauren (Mila, to herself: Lately I wonder how it feels to steal your kiss). And you can imagine my answer was bullshit because, God, I fell in love with her and I feel terrible without her” (Mila: And you can read between the lines but God, I fell).

All very trippy so far, huh? 🤯😏 I know, I know, and we’re not even done yet 🤣. And by the way, how many times have I said that Camila is a fucking genius? Because she is! She’s fucking brilliant!! 😍

Chorus 1:

“I only told the moon, tonight up on the roof

I told her that I’m scared that all my thoughts they look like you

I only told the moon, about the way you move

I asked her to please tell me if you tell things to her too”

I told her. HER: the moon. For those who don’t know, Mila refers to the moon as ‘she/her’ because in Spanish, as well as in Italian, moon is preceded by the feminine definite article, ‘la’. It says ‘la luna’ in Spanish as well as in Italian. In English, however, the article is always the same, ‘the’. It wasn’t difficult for me to understand it at the time, and no, not because for a couple of years now there has been the fashion to use the she/her for every object even when it actually has the masculine definite article as most part of native English speakers do to be cooler (they’re really really funny to me when they do it, by the way 🤣) precisely because they don’t know the difference because of the ‘the’. Nope. It wasn’t difficult for me to understand it at the time, precisely because I’m Italian. But anyway. Let’s go back to the interpretation.

There’s another little game here. For this time, it’s just a change of referent. If in the first verse and in the first pre-chorus Mila was talking directly to the moon, in the first chorus she was talking to Laur instead. But in reality, she wasn’t really talking to her. It’s as if she were imagining doing it. Lauren wasn’t really there, but Camila imagined that she was. She acted by speaking in the same way that she’d have spoken for real to Laur if Lo had really been there with her.

How come I think Camila was talking to her own imaginative creation of Laur and not Lauren herself? Because n°1, Camren weren’t on good terms at the time as we understood in the first verse, aka they didn’t talk to each other. N°2, as I said before, this whole song is a confession Mila made to the moon. And n°3, Mila herself asked the moon to tell her if Laur was thinking of her too in the last sentence of the first chorus. If Mila was really talking to Laur, she wouldn’t have asked the moon to give her her news. Ergo, Laur wasn’t there and Mila was just imagining talking to her.

Mila explained to Lo, aka her imaginative creation of Laur, about how she talked to her, to the moon. How she confided in her. How she told her secrets. Secrets she was comfortable revealing only to her: I only told the moon, tonight up on the roof. Secrets that, as in this case, represented her fear of not being able to think of anything other than her (Lo): I told her that I’m scared that all my thoughts they look like you.

I only told the moon, about the way you move. About the way you move… Ahem-ahem 🤭. I mean, if THAT doesn’t prove she was talking about a girl, I don’t know what would 🤣. Yeah, the song is enigmatic, and Mila tried to confuse the ideas for anyone who listened to it, but this is the only part of the whole song where it’s clear as day that she was talking about a girl. Her girl. And we know that she’s talked about it too before. Two examples that come to my mind now are OMG: “When she drop it bounce back like a yo-yo”, and Crown: “The way you move is serpentine”.

I asked her to please tell me if you tell things to her too. As I mentioned earlier, Mila asked the moon to tell her if Laur was talking about things with her too. She wanted to know if also Lo was telling the moon that she thought of Mila too.

We have three subjects here: I, me: Camila – Her: moon – You: Lauren. I (Mila) asked her (the moon) to please tell me (Mila) if you (Laur) tell things to her (the moon) too.

So basically, throughout the first chorus, Mila (I, me) imagined talking to Lo (you) about what she’d confessed to the moon (her) about her feelings for Laur herself.

BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP *sound effect*

If you made it this far without a headache, congratulations!!!! 👏🏼🙌🏼🥳

Now take a deep breath and rest your brain for a moment because I’m probably about to give you one 😇😁👍🏼😉

BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP *sound effect*

Verse 2:

“Silence. Too loud

Say it, not now”

This is exactly the same thing we saw in the first verse. The same little game of missing pieces of a sentence. The problem with this one, was that it was even more difficult to decipher. It was the most complex part for me to code at the time. Why? Because not only do we find here the connection with everything I’ve explained so far, but even with a part of the second chorus. But let’s go in order.

We know that Mila suffers from OCD. This is a topic I’ve talked about in many of my posts and I need to do it one more time. OCD leads to having intrusive thoughts. You can’t control them even if you want to, and that, leads those thoughts to be continuous. So continuous, that they lead you to obsession, which in turn leads you to act in a way that is too impulsive, compulsive, just to try to distract yourself and not always think about the same thing [obsession and compulsive, two things that we find in the word itself: obsessive-compulsive disorder, OCD]. That, leads you in turn to anxiety because the fear of not being able to stop those thoughts takes over. Now, doesn’t that ring a bell? Don’t you recognize those same words said in the song? No? I’ll give you a hand: “I only told the moon, tonight up on the roof - I told her that I’m scared that all my thoughts they look like you”.

Explanation I’ve now given on the OCD: That, leads you in turn to anxiety because the fear of not being able to stop those thoughts takes over.

Explanation I gave in the first chorus: Mila explained to Lo, aka her imaginative creation of Laur, about how she talked to her, to the moon. How she confided in her. How she told her secrets. Secrets she was comfortable revealing only to her: I only told the moon, tonight up on the roof. Secrets that, as in this case, represented her fear of not being able to think of anything other than her (Lo): I told her that I’m scared that all my thoughts they look like you.

Yeeep. I didn’t explain this in the first chorus because I needed this connection right now because of what I’m about to explain. But before doing that, I’d also like to add how we’ve seen those intrusive, repetitive thoughts about Lo in two other parts as well: 1) I stress, when she started thinking by emphasizing/repeating in her head over and over again how much she wanted her back, and 2) Lately I wonder how it feels to steal your kiss, when her mind spaced out on Laur instead of immediately answering the questions Hello, how are you? How you’ve been?.

Now. By Silence. Too loud, Mila referred to the intrusive thoughts of her OCD. The “Little voices in my head” that we also find in Consequences, you know? And as I said in that interpretation (in the penultimate ask): “By “Little voices in my head” she was referring to the intrusive thoughts of her OCD. Have you ever noticed that when we read, when we write, and when we think, it’s our own voice the one we hear in our head? Well, it’s the same thing that happens with OCD, and Mila was listening to intrusive thoughts whispering to her, or talking to her, or even screaming to her in her mental voice just as it would happen to all of us with any other thought.”

So, again, Silence. Too loud. There was silence outside. Even between them. Another thing that makes us understand they weren’t talking to each other. But in her head? There were those Little voices that were too loud. In this case (because we’re talking about the song and not Mila and OCD in a generic way), they were all about “Lauren, Lauren, Lauren”. Also because, as you’ve seen, Mila herself only told the moon that she was scared that all her thoughts they looked like Lo.

Say it, not now. Still in this case, imagine as if Mila and those Little voices in her head were having a conversation with each other. In reality, Mila was having an internal conversation with herself, but imagine that as Pinocchio with her conscience, aka Jiminy Cricket. The voices were telling her: “Talk to her. Take her back. Tell her you miss her. Tell her you fell in love with her. Tell her how you feel instead of only talking to the moon about it. Tell her how you feel instead of only imagining doing it (as we saw in the first chorus). Say it to her for real. Take the courage and do it!”. By shitting in her pants just at the idea, Mila answered: “Not now. Later on in time, sure, but not now. I’m not ready yet”.

So. I’ve explained to you the connection that there is in the second verse with everything I’ve already explained so far. But, before explaining the part that for me was the most complex to decipher, which is the connection between the second verse and a part of the second chorus, let’s move on to the second pre-chorus. As I said before, let’s go in order.

Pre-Chorus 2:

“So, how are you? How you’ve been?

Lately I wonder how it feels to taste your lips

Nothing much, just fine, I’m doing well

And you can read between the lines but God, I fell”

The second pre-chorus and the first are the same. They don’t have different meanings, but we do find two differences here: the replacement of Hello with So before the questions, and the replacement of steal your kiss with taste your lips.

The two differences don’t change the meaning of the second pre-chorus per se. They’re just indicators of the time that was passing. Mila was still telling and confessing everything to the moon except for the last part in which she referred directly to her. And if first she wondered how it would feel to steal Laur’s kiss, then she wondered how it would feel to taste Laur’s lips. First indicator of the time that was passing.

The second one, which is the replacement of Hello with So before the questions, makes us understand how also other people different from the first ones were asking her those questions. Nothing wrong with that. I mean, as I explained earlier, they’re spontaneous courtesy questions you ask people you know when you see them. Like for example when you and a friend meet for a coffee. Once the two of you have hugged to greet each other, and once you’ve sat down at a table, one of you usually starts the conversation precisely in that way: So, how are you? How you’ve been?

Chorus 2:

“I only told the moon, tonight up on the roof

I told her that I’m scared that all my thoughts they look like you

I only told the moon, about the way you move

I asked her to please tell me if you tell things to her too”

So far, it’s all the same as the first chorus. Immediately after, however, we find an addition that distinguishes them:

“That I give it all to you, I give it all to you, I give it all to you

I only told the moon”

Now I can finally explain to you the connection between the second verse and a part of the second chorus. THIS part of the second chorus.

The first chorus ends with I asked her to please tell me if you tell things to her too. If you combine it with the part following that, which we find here in the second chorus, we get: I asked her to please tell me if you tell things to her too that I give it all to you. And tell me honestly, does that make sense? Nope. It makes no sense. So I told myself that it had to be yet another game. I thought, what if that part (That I give it all to you, I give it all to you, I give it all to you - I only told the moon) has nothing to do with the parts of the choruses that are the same? What if it had another connection with something else here in the song? Well, why the hell not 🤷🏻‍♀️.­­ And that’s how I found it 😏. That’s how I understood that this part of the second chorus had the connection with the second verse.

Small summary of the second verse to make you understand better: Silence. Too loud. Say it, not now. There was silence outside, but in Mila’s head, there were those too loud Little voices she was having a conversation with.

It’s in that conversation that we need to add the second chorus part. And now, that conversation becomes:

Voices: “Talk to her. Take her back. Tell her you miss her. Tell her you fell in love with her. Tell her you give it all to her. All your love. All of yourself because she means the world to you. Tell her how you feel instead of only talking to the moon about it. Tell her how you feel instead of only imagining doing it (as we saw in the first chorus). Say it to her for real. Take the courage and do it!”. By shitting in her pants just at the idea, Mila answered: “Not now. Later on in time, sure, but not now. I’m not ready yet”.

So what are the new key points of the connection? These one: Tell her you give it all to her. All your love. All of yourself because she means the world to you. Tell her how you feel instead of only talking to the moon about it. Tell her how you feel instead of only imagining doing it. Say it to her for real.

“Tell her you give it all to her. All your love. All of yourself because she means the world to you” is actually That I give it all to you.

“Tell her how you feel instead of only talking to the moon about it” is because that’s what Mila did, aka I only told the moon which we find in both choruses.

“Tell her how you feel instead of only imagining doing it (as we saw in the first chorus)”. And what did we see in the first chorus? That Mila was imagining talking to Lo about what she’d confessed to the moon about her feelings for Laur herself.  

“Say it to her for real” But say what to her for real? Answer: “Tell her you miss her. Tell her you fell in love with her. Tell her you give it all to her. All your love. All of yourself because she means the world to you. Tell her how you feel instead of only talking to the moon about it. Tell her how you feel instead of only imagining doing it. …… Take the courage and do it!”. By shitting in her pants just at the idea, Mila answered: “Not now. Later on in time, sure, but not now. I’m not ready yet”.

😎😎😎😎😎😎😎

Basically, the connection between the second verse and a part of the second chorus, is an addition to what the Little voices Mila was having a conversation with told her. The game we find in ‘That I give it all to you, I give it all to you, I give it all to you - I only told the moon’, is that this sentence should be read backwards. I only told the moon that I give it all to you. It’s as simple as that. The Little voices, aka Mila herself, told her to tell Lo all the things I’ve listed, with the addition that we find here that she gives it all to her, instead of only telling the moon or just imagining doing it. 😏

Bridge:

“Ah-ah ah-ah ah-aaah

Ah-ah ah-ah ah-aaah”

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Mila angelically sings this part twice by switching from the lowest to the highest vocal range. There’s actually nothing to interpret here. It’s just something I wanted to include because she gave me goosebumps the first few times I listened to it. That’s all 🤷🏻‍♀️🙃.

“Uuuh-And another love song, will play on the radio, you know”

A love song, aka yet another thing that would’ve made her think about Lo. Here Mila was again imagining talking to Lo as I explained to you in the first chorus. ‘you know’, YOU, Lauren. I explained this to you guys when I told you about the subjects, remember?

“Ah-ah ah-ah ah-aaah

Ah-ah ah-ah ah-aaah

Uuh-And I’ll wait for the moon to lean in close, and say”

Why did the moon have to lean in close to tell her something? Think about that for a moment. When is it that you lean in close to someone in that way? When you want to whisper something, habitually either very close to their face so they can hear, or in their ear. It’s usually something that no one else can hear. A secret. Basically, it’s a metaphor Mila used because their story was secret. Especially in the beginning, very few people knew about them, and if that’s why, their entire story has always been and still is a secret to the world. And I’m talking in a general way of course, not about people who know them.

So it was like: And another love song will play on the radio that will make me think about you, you know, Lauren? And, in the meantime, I’ll wait for the moon to lean in close as if it were a secret because no one knew, and say:

Chorus 3:

“That he only told the moon, tonight up on the roof”

AAAAAnd we have the entry of a fourth subject. At first glance, it might have seemed that Mila was referring to a guy for obvious reasons. At the time, I initially thought that was the one Lo was moving on with, but then I reflected and said to myself: “Naaah. Why on earth would this guy have had to confess to the moon the same things as Mila if he already had the girl (Laur)? Her girl! Not to mention the fact that this guy should’ve seen the moon as a friend and have the same kind of love for her that Mila has. Pfffffft!! Come on! It would’ve been an all too huge coincidence!!! No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Nope. This is just another game. Think, Fa, think. Who is this he?”. I looked at the lyrics again and answered to myself right after: the sun. Remember the explanation I gave you in the first chorus about the ‘she/her’ for the moon? It’s the same thing. Here Mila referred to the sun with ‘he’ because in Spanish, as well as in Italian, the sun is preceded by the masculine definite article. ‘El sol’ in Spanish, and ‘il sole’ in Italian.

So I understood that it was the sun, BUT, and yes, there’s a but, he only told the moon is a game within a game. A double game. In their story, Camila is the moon and Lauren is the sun. Mila herself said that she personifies the sun and the moon a lot as people and that she identifies herself to the moon. I explained everything in an ask of my Inauguration post as you can see here: [Same thing as before. Right click on the pic and go to ‘open image in a new tab’. Go to the tab that has just opened, and click on the image with the magnifying glass with the + sign in it to see and read everything better]

As I also said in that post, the personification in their story is: Camila: moon. Lauren: sun. The sun and the moon love each other, as do Laur and Mila. Now look at this:

“i have late night conversations with the moon. she tells me about the sun, and i tell her about you”: i (Mila) have late night conversations with the moon. she (moon) tells me about the sun, and i (Mila) tell her about you (Laur). It’s exactly the same method she used here in the song!

“That he only told the moon, tonight up on the roof”. So in this case, Mila personified the sun. He: sun, aka Lauren. That he only told the moon, tonight up on the roof: That Lauren only told the moon, tonight up on the roof. Her sun only told the moon.

“He told me that he’s scared that all his thoughts they look like you”

Remember earlier that Mila said she was waiting for the moon to lean in close one day to tell her that? [I said one day because Mila used the future: I’ll wait for the moon to lean in close. Meaning: it hadn’t happened yet. She was still just hoping for it]. This means that it was the moon that was talking here. He told me that he’s scared that all his thoughts they look like you: He (the sun, Lauren) told me (the moon) that he’s (Lauren’s) scared that all his (Lauren’s) thoughts they look like you (Camila).

I know that many understood that that he was the sun. I also know that many thought it was the actual sun that was talking to the moon. I know they thought that Mila talked to the moon, Laur to the sun, and that the moon and sun talked to each other by then exchanging that same information to the girls, but that’s not the case. I highly doubt the sun could be found talking to the moon tonight up on the roof. During a lunar eclipse (since they occur in the night)? More likely, but I doubt Mila implied that. Talking tonight up on the roof is a metaphor that indicates something that a person would do when alone and in secret because away from prying ears; meaning: a confession. In this case, as I’ve already told you, confession to whom? Only Told the Moon, aka the fulcrum of the entire song.

So the actual sun had nothing to do with it here and it was the moon that talked in the first person through Camila’s hope. Ergo, something that hadn’t really happened. Mila was waiting for the moon to one day tell her that Laur, and therefore her personification of the sun, had also gone ‘up on the roof’ one night to confide in her, the moon itself. Mila was waiting for the moon to one day lean in close to tell her what? That Laur, her sun, only told her, the moon, that she was scared that all her thoughts they looked like Mila.

Mila speaking: And I’ll (Camila) wait for the moon to lean in close and say [Say what?=] that he (the sun, Lauren) only told the moon, tonight up on the roof. Moon speaking: He (Lauren) told me (the moon) that he’s (Lauren’s) scared that all his (Lauren’s) thoughts they look like you (Camila).

Information passing: Camila was talking to the moon. Camila hoped that her sun (Lauren) would also talk to the moon. The moon was talking to Camila, and for Camila’s hope, also with Lauren, aka her sun.

“I only told the moon, about the way you move

I asked her to please tell me if you tell this to her too”

And back to Camila speaking again. I (Mila) asked her (moon) to please tell me (Mila) if you (Lo) tell this to her (moon) too. Different from I asked her to please tell me if you tell things to her too that we find in the first two choruses. The difference is that, if first Mila asked the moon to tell her if Laur talked about things with her too (if you tell things to her too: things in general), here she asked her to tell her specifically if Lo talked to her about Mila too. About the way Mila moves and if she was scared that all her thoughts they looked like Mila (if you tell this to her too: the exact same things Mila talked about with the moon).

Basically, Mila was hoping that sooner or later the moon would’ve told her in secret that Laur had also confided in her by telling her that all she did was think about Mila too.

Outro:

“That I give it all to you, I give it all to you, I give it all to you

We only told the moon

He, he, ha he, he, ha he

We only told the moon”

Well, well, well. Would you look at that 😏. Putting aside the connection between the second verse and a part of the second chorus that I’ve already explained to you, and the singing part that I added myself, what do we have here? Mila finally knew that Lo too had the same thoughts and the same fears as her. We only told the moon. Literally, it means they both only told the moon, buuut, what the hell is going on? Wasn’t Mila just hoping that Lo would also confide in the moon sooner or later until the third chorus? What had changed?

Their situation. Their situation had changed. They’d gotten back together and that’s why Mila knew and could say with certainty that they only told the moon. We only told the moon was simply another indicator of the time that had passed. The last indicator of the time that had passed! Lyrically speaking, Mila explains that they’d gotten back together and that for that reason, Laur told her that she’d confided in the moon too. The hope that her sun would also talk about her to the moon had become reality. WITH ONLY FIVE WORDS!! 🤯🤯🤯 MASTERMIND! SHE. IS. BRILLIANT.!!!!! 🔥

Remember that when I told you about XO (I Don’t Miss Ya), Cry for Me, Must Be Love, Used to This, and Closure, I told you that Only Told the Moon is the last song (so far) that encompasses that chapter before they got back together? Mila started writing it when she thought it was really over between them. When she thought she’d lost her for real. When her hope was fading more and more. This was the last song of acceptance and hope in getting back together with her before actually getting back together with her. And the following year, when she by then had already been back with her for some time, she finished it by being able to insert the happy ending as well. One of the best-hidden things in my opinion 🤩.

Mila used these riddles, these games with sentences, with the various meanings behind them, and, above all, with personal pronouns, with the sole purpose of trying to confuse the ideas for anyone who listened to the song; as I also told you in the first chorus. She only used four subjects in the song, but she twisted pronouns and meanings on purpose. For most of the song, there was: the moon, she/her – the sun, aka Lauren, he - Lauren, you - and lastly Camila herself, I/me. The amazing thing, is that she managed to perfectly confuse things. Like for example the fact that she used the you for Lauren in order not to make it clear that she was talking about a girl. For fear that people who wouldn’t understand that with she/her she meant the moon and not a girl, she also inserted the he, which however, in this case, was the sun aka Lo, and not a guy. A motherfucking genius, I told you! 😍😍😍 And all this at just 17 years old with no professional help from fucking anyone!!!!!! 🤩🤩🤩

Last thing before I go. Something that my baby @romanticentropy​ reminded me of because I was way too focused on seeing things in that year (2014). This beautiful song, also has a lil connection with another unreleased song that Mila wrote in 2018: Taxi. “We’ll tell the moon when we’re old. The greatest love story that’s never been told”.

That We’ll tell the moon when we’re old, is connected to this We only told the moon. This makes us understand that Camren only told the moon about them since 2014, they’ve continued and continue to do so now in the present, and will continue to tell the moon about their greatest love story that’s never been told even when they’re old. The little hope that Mila gave me is the fact that she didn’t insert the only there that time. So maybe, MAYBE they won’t tell their greatest love story only to the moon 😍🤞🏼🙏🏼. But 🤫🤐.

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Aaand that’s it 😉. This is my interpretation. The way I solved the riddles 🧐. I hope you liked it, and I hope I didn’t cause too many headaches 😅🤭🤣. See you next time 😘.

Remember to be nice. Always. Both with others and with yourselves. Be a good example. Be patient. Be safe and take care of yourselves. Don’t let our ship sink. Keep shipping them, but please respectfully 🙏🏼. Sending you virtual love and hugs 🤗🤗🤗. I love you, babies. Always with love, F ❤️.

P.S. happy valentine’s day to all of you, my babies 🌹🌹🌹 (it’s already past midnight here 🙃). But happy valentine’s day to you especially, baby 👭🏻💓 [@romanticentropy​]. It’s been exactly one year since we chatted for the very first time:

And tomorrow, the 15th, it will be exactly one year since I wrote this valentine’s post, 🌹 - ɟ, which, however, was posted the next day:

THAT was really the beginning 🤩🤩🤩. Soooo, happy anniversary, amore mio❣️💋💌💘💝💖💗💓💞💕💟💐🌹🌸🏵️🌺🌻🌼🌷🍾🥂🎇🎈🎉✨🎊🎀🎁👭🏻👩🏻‍❤️‍💋‍👩🏻 *even though our actual anniversary is still 5 days away 🤭*. I’m one lucky bish 😍.

[romanticentropy]

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They're so cute, and YOU are so cute! And the twerking heart is 🤣🤣🤣🤣

I love you, mi amor @fa-by ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

Only Told the Moon

Hey my babies 👋🏼🤗. As I promised I would, ta-daaah 🎉✨🎊.

So 😁, today I wanna talk to you about the spectral theory of linear operators in Hilbert spaces and tensor analysis.

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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I’m kidding of course 🤣. The title of the post already says today’s topic. You guys thank the K Anon for the ask.

Hi K 👋🏼😄. Have a nice day too and hope you like it 😊.

So. Camila wrote and produced Only Told the Moon in a hotel room by using GarageBand, a software to create music developed by Apple that can also be used by those who don’t know how to play any musical instrument. A snippet was leaked in 2016, but then the entire song was leaked on Feb 16, 2017. Mila started writing it in 2014 when she was 17, and finished it at 18 the following year in 2015. And when did she ‘say’ that she’d completed it? On Lauren’s birthday:

Why don’t you put an even bigger sign that directly says “THIS IS FOR LAUREN!” next time, Mila? 🤣 I mean, of all days, right on her birthday? Okay 🤣. But thanks tho 😉🤭.

There’s also this one here which I’m pretty sure was another hint to the lyrics:

We know how much Mila likes the moon:

We know how much Mila likes the sun and the moon: Ahem-ahem, her sun… 😎

And this one here… I mean, Mila???? On her birthday the following year? AGAIN??????? 🤣🤣🤣

But this one… Ooooh, this one! 🤭🤣

Mila, bish! Are you really gonna tell me that when you posted it, you didn’t know that it was actually the edit of THIS one?

Little story for you. It was early March 2016 and I’d been in the fandom for a very very short time. This Camren fanart was one of the first I saw. At the time, however, I saw the original. As you can see, this one is cropped and the quality is not the best. I tried to look for the original which was of the same quality as the edited one that Mila posted, but I unfortunately couldn’t find it anywhere. The point is that I saw it. That one was created first. That one was actually the original. Then it was edited, maybe by the same person who created it, but I don’t know that. But I do know with absolute certainty, also because everyone said it at the time, that that one was created first. So, my question remains the same:

Are you really gonna tell me that when you posted it, you didn’t know that it was actually the edit of THIS one?? KARLA CAMILA CABELLO ESTRABAO!!!!!!!!!!! COME ON, NOW!!!! WHO ARE YOU KIDDING???? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

But back to being serious now. We have ‘the classic’ one:

That’s the famous sun and moon artwork (created by Zias and posted on the artist website DeviantArt). It was the first one to be used by fans as cover art for the song when the snippet was leaked in 2016. We saw Mila use it many times on her social networks:

And we even saw it worn on her sweatshirt on November 27, 2015, in Mexico for The Reflection Tour, both for an interview with Telehit and for the meet & greet:

🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵���🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵 ahem, ahem, anyway.

There are obviously tons of other pics and tweets where Mila talked about the sun and the moon, but I think these ones are enough. Let’s focus on the song now. I love this song 🥰. This song made me realize how talented Mila was, since she was only 17 when she started it. How much of a great songwriter she was already at the time since this is one of the first songs she wrote 100% on her own and without professional help. Then honestly the fact that it was so complex, made me like it 100 times more 😜.

But anyway, I advise you to mentally prepare yourselves because this is the longest interpretation I’ve done so far. Make yourselves a sandwich, or a coffee, or I don’t know, something that can accompany you on the journey 😄. Oh and, as usual, you can even disagree with me, but this is the way I see it 😊.

Okay, ready? Let’s go! 🙌🏼

Verse 1:

“Stay back, stay long

And you, move on

I stress, come close

Move on, please don’t”

One of the things I love the most about this song is how cryptic it is 😍, and I think you know by now how much of a sucker I am for deciphering things 😏. So what do we have here? We have words, but something doesn’t add up. There appear to be holes. As if there were missing pieces of a sentence, right? Well, that’s because it is like that. Or at least, it is for me. On whole sentences, Mila only used a few words. So basically, it was as if she’d removed the rest because the meaning of those words alone, had the same concept as one or more whole sentences. I’ll explain better with an example:

“On my way home after work last night, I tripped on a really dirty sidewalk and fell to my knees by tearing off my new polka dotted pantyhose that I loved, and breaking the heel of my shoe because I was distracted looking at my phone”. Now, that’s the whole sentence. But if I just write “On my way home. I fell. Distracted.” in that same cryptic way, wouldn’t you understand anyway that the fact of the matter is that I fell? Wouldn’t you understand anyway even without the need to know all those details in the whole sentence that my distracted ass was on the ground? I really think so. Oh and, just to clarify, this didn’t really happen. I’m not clumsy and I certainly don’t work in heels 🤣. It was just an example I created for you to understand. Let’s move on 🙃.

So, what was Mila actually talking about? What is the meaning behind it? We have ‘Stay back, stay long’ which makes us understand both their usual back-and-forth/cycle/loop, and how Camila was the one who broke up with Lauren and that then wanted her back. When? When ‘And you, move on’; aka when Laur had found someone else. Oh and, the ‘And you’ is a question. You can notice it by listening to the way she sings it: And you? Move on.

‘I stress, come close - Move on, please don’t’. These two, already at the time (2017) made me understand that Mila wasn’t really talking to Laur. They were just thoughts in her head that she, however, didn’t tell her 100% for pride reasons. She broke up with her, saw that Lo was moving on, and instead of telling her in person how much she wanted her close/back (come close) and how much she didn’t want her to move on (Move on, please don’t), she talked to herself by repeating it (I stress) over and over again in her head. I understood this especially because the ‘Move on’ is a question and the ‘please don’t’ is the reaction to the affirmative answer of the question. It was like: Mila saw Lo with someone else and thought “Is she moving on? Oh, no. No, no, no, no, no, please no!”. As with ‘And you’, if you listen closely, you can clearly hear that it’s a question and that Mila says “Move on? Please don’t”.

Therefore, to recap. Stay back, which literally means that Mila told her to leave her alone/stay away from her, aka the artistic way she used to describe the moment she broke up with her. Then she regretted it. She wanted her back and wanted Lo to stay with her for a long time, aka for good (stay long). But what did Laur do? (And you“?”) She moved on (move on) [Sure, Jan]. And when Mila realized this (Move on“?”), she started thinking by emphasizing/repeating (I stress) in her head over and over again how much she wanted her close/back (come close) because, obviously, she didn’t want Lo to move on (please don’t).

Pre-Chorus 1:

“Hello, how are you? How you’ve been?

Lately I wonder how it feels to steal your kiss

Nothing much, just fine, I’m doing well

And you can read between the lines but God, I fell”

Ohhh, I can read between the lines, baby!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 All kidding aside🤣, I’m serious now. We have another little riddle here. A puzzle, or rather, a game. A game with sentences, a game with the various meanings behind it, and, above all, a game with personal pronouns. Actually, the whole motherfucking song is based on these three things 🤣. But anyway.

With the first two sentences (Hello, how are you? How you’ve been? - Lately I wonder how it feels to steal your kiss), it might have seemed at first as if Mila was asking those questions to Laur, right? Right. And with ‘Nothing much, just fine, I’m doing well - And you can read between the lines but God, I fell’, it might have seemed at first as if Lo had answered her that, right? Right. But then you’ll have stopped for a moment and said “Wait a minute! Hold on, hold on, hold on, wait a fucking minute! If Laur had moved on in the first verse, why on earth would she tell Mila to read between the lines right after telling her she was doing well? [Reading between the lines means finding the subtext/implication, and in this case, I’m doing well, means the exact opposite read between the lines: I’m NOT doing well] It wouldn’t make sense because she would never have admitted it for a pride matter.”

So you must have thought it was the other way around. That it was Lauren the one who was asking Camila those questions, right? Right. But then the confusion will have entered again because, again, if Laur was moving on in the first verse, why after the questions would she have told her that lately she was wondering how it would feel to steal her kiss? Why move on and simply not get back with her as Mila also secretly wanted (I stress, come close - Move on, please don’t)? It would’ve been a contradiction. And therefore you must have thought, “Okay, Lauren asked her the two questions, but everything else in the sentences was just Camila, right? That’s gotta be it. Right? Right.” WROOONG! It’s all wrong 🤣. As I said before, it’s game with sentences, a game with the various meanings behind it, and, above all, a game with personal pronouns.

This song, this whole song is a confession. A confession of how things had gone and how things were still going between Camila and Lauren. A confession that Mila made. To whom? Who was she telling all these things to? The freaking song title is the answer 🤣: Only Told the Moon. For Mila, the moon is a friend. A protector who watches over her and from whom she ‘goes’ to confide, especially when she feels alone.

So. I explained the game in the first verse, but what’s the game in the first pre-chorus?

In the first verse, Mila talked to the moon about what happened between her and Lauren by using the present tense. As if she was reliving the memories. But in reality,  they were things that had already happened. In the first pre-chorus indeed, she used ‘Lately I wonder’; thing that makes us understand how some time had passed since the first verse, that is, since Mila had broken up with Laur to then regretting it while Lo was moving on. In the first pre-chorus, however, Mila explained to the moon the things that had happened in the period after the breakup. She explained to the moon how she was being asked if she was okay, and that even though she answered that she was, she actually wasn’t okay at all. Yeah guys 🤣, it was actually external people who asked those two questions to Camila, and not Lauren to Camila or vice versa. Before you get confused for the umpteenth time 🤣, let me go on so you’ll understand what I mean 🙃.

Read the first pre-chorus in this way by pretending that the two sentences I crossed out don’t exist for a moment, okay?

Hello, how are you? How you’ve been?

Lately I wonder how it feels to steal your kiss

Nothing much, just fine, I’m doing well

And you can read between the lines but God, I fell

Those are two questions and that’s an answer to both. And so far, so good. It’s very simple. I also explained to you that Mila in the song was telling and confessing everything to the moon, and therefore, this also excludes the moon itself from the sentences that I haven’t crossed out. But in the last sentence, on the other hand, we have the moon as a referent (I’ll explain that shortly), and that’s why I said that those who asked Mila those questions were external people. If you still have doubts about it, think about it for a moment. Those are questions you ask a person you haven’t seen for a while, and what sense would it have made for one of them (Camren) to ask the other ‘Hello, how are you? How you’ve been?’ if we know perfectly well that they were together 24-7? 😏

Now that I hope I’ve removed this doubt as well, let’s move on. As I was saying, in the first pre-chorus Mila explained to the moon the things that had happened after the breakup. She explained to the moon how people asked her how she was: Hello, how are you? How you’ve been?. And since she wasn’t okay, those questions immediately made her think of Lo.

You know when you’re talking to someone and your mind spaces out thinking about something else? Maybe because that someone said something that reminded you of that thing that’s distracting you from the conversation. Well, we know how short Camila’s attention span is and how easily distracted she is 🤣. But, while that’s usually funny because, I mean, it’s Camila, and it’s one of the billions of reasons why I love her, in this case of the song, her mind spaced out on Laur because she was suffering for her. So in that timeframe between immediately after the questions and before the answer, and because of the questions, Mila thought about Lo and how she would’ve wanted to kiss her: Lately I wonder how it feels to steal your kiss. It was like, people: “Hello, how are you? How you’ve been?” – Mila by thinking of Laur ‘Lately I wonder how it feels to steal your kiss’ to then answering:

“Nothing much, just fine, I’m doing well. I’m just as good as an ass sitting on a cactus, thanks for asking. What about you?”.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 All kidding aside now. Immediately after thinking of Laur, Mila came back to reality and, as you saw up here, she answered with the bullshit that she was doing well: Nothing much, just fine, I’m doing well.

Sometimes the people who ask you those questions do it because they’re fond of you and there’s really an interest on their part in knowing how you’re doing. Others, still those ones who are fond of you, ask them to you because they saw or already knew that something was wrong, and it’s their way of letting you vent to help you (sometimes that doesn’t work because you prefer to lie to them despite trusting them simply because you don’t want to talk about it). Then there are those ones who ask you just for gossip and not because they really care about you; especially if they saw that something was wrong, they can’t wait to know the reason to then go gossiping by telling someone else everything. And lastly, there are those ones who ask you just out of courtesy. Like, for example, the typical two-second encounter that happens when you see someone you know: “Heeey, hi, how are you?” whose answer is always “I’m good. How are you?” even if you feel like shit, “I’m good. See ya”, you know? These are questions that you ask others yourself as well. Everyone does and no one really cares about the answer because, whether you’re really okay or not, the answer is always “I’m good/fine/okay” regardless, because you wouldn’t talk about personal matters with someone you don’t trust, and same thing for them towards you.

In Mila’s case, we know that 5H were always surrounded by people. Especially on tour or on promotional weeks, they saw and met people every day. Their team, sound engineers, assistants, photographers, interviewers, fans, etc., etc. People in general. So, “Hello, how are you? How you’ve been?”, whether they were courtesy questions or not, Mila still received them every day even several times a day from different people.

Moving forward we find a slight change of scenery. This is where the moon comes into play as an actual referent. From telling the moon about their breakup and what happened both immediately after and a short while after it, Mila spoke in the present-present by addressing the moon directly: “And you can read between the lines but God, I fell”. Meaning: You, moon, you can read between the lines and understand that I answered those questions with bullshit because I’m not doing well. I broke up with her, she started moving on, I regret it, and now I feel terrible because I miss her. I know she’s kinda dating somebody else, but God, I fell in love with her and I want her back.

I had the confirmation that I was even more right about both first verse and first pre-chorus (and the song in general actually) in the years that followed thanks to five other songs: three unreleased ones and two officially released ones. These songs are: XO (I Don’t Miss Ya) leaked in 2020, Cry for Me officially released in 2019 as a promotional single for Romance, Must Be Love leaked in 2019, Used to This officially released in 2019 with Romance, and Closure leaked in 2022. That one, plus Only Told the Moon, is the order of the music timeline concerning the post-breakup period [XO (I Don’t Miss Ya), Cry for Me, Must Be Love, Used to This, Closure, and Only Told the Moon]. I’ll explain better why to you:

Camren officially got together in early April 2014 and broke up in late November of the same year (Camila was 17). To be precise, it was Mila who broke up with Lo. I’m not just saying that because I understood it from this song (Only Told the Moon) which was the first of those five we had (2017). I’m saying that because Camila herself said it two years later and therefore I had confirmation of it. But we’ll get there shortly. Let me follow the order of the music timeline.

So. Mila broke up with Lo. Their first breakup since they were official. Laur was certainly not happy about it but, she sure as hell behaved as if she were, aka XO (I Don’t Miss Ya). Lo was hurt and, driven by anger, she acted as if she cared neither that Mila broke up with her and the reasons why she did, nor Mila herself. She acted as if she was better off without her. Partially true because soon after, she found someone else to ‘move on with’ briefly.

Examples of what I told you in the song: Lo was hurt and, driven by anger, she acted as if she cared neither that Mila broke up with her and the reasons why she did (So keep your feelings inside of your head. I like you better when you keep em’ there. Don’t let me know, don’t let me know. Unfortunately, I don’t miss ya //// “Don’t let me know, don’t let me know”, funny how exactly two years later [2016], she asked her the exact opposite in Let Me Know [interpretation here, penultimate ask]), nor Mila herself (I don’t need nobody to make me feel good - & - Used to be xo, now we’re exes). She acted as if she was better off without her. (Appreciate it when you’re not around. I like you better when you’re out of town. Better alone, better alone. Unfortunately, I don’t miss ya). Partially true because soon after, she found someone else to ‘move on with’ briefly.

That, on the other hand, resulted in anger in Mila triggered by jealousy, aka I’m Pissed Off You’re Happy (“I’m pissed off you’re happy, you’re happy y-y-y-y-y. I’m pissed off you’re happy, without me e-e-e-e-e”), which in turn years later became what we know as Cry for Me. And now I can tell you when Mila herself said she broke up with her: (here, min 2:31) Camila: “I broke up with somebody, and I was like: ‘okay’. But then, a few days after, I would just see them- just looking so happy, so radiant, like, dating someone else so quickly; and I was like: ‘Wait! Like, that was so- I knew you were gonna move on, but that was really, really fast. Like, I feel jealous that you were able to move on and be happy so much faster than me’”.

So basically: Mila broke up with her and she was like ‘I’m okay with it. I did the right thing’. Lo, hurt, acted like ‘Better this way. I don’t give a shit. I’m happy like this’, and I’m also convinced that it was out of spite that she kinda started dating someone else. And Mila became jealous and angry. It was like, she saw her happy? = “Well, you look so happy walking down the street, don’t you, babe? - & - And you’re okay, you’re okay, how can you be okay? No, why won’t you cry?”. The fact that Lo wasn’t hurt (only according to her since Laur didn’t show it) from the breakup and her, infuriated Mila.

Mila learned that Lo was already dating someone else, and instead of telling her that she wasn’t okay with it, out of even more anger and pride, Mila told her she was happy for her = “When I said I hope you’re happy, didn’t mean it”. Then the increasingly angry and jealous reasoning started in her head, still because, out of pride, she didn’t say anything to Laur: “Never thought you’d be so good at moving on - & - You said that in this lifetime you could never get over me? Are you over me? - & - Who can make you forget about me? - & - I want you to cry for me, cry for me - & - And it’s time you know the feeling”. Lastly followed by the regret of having broken up with Lo and the wanting things back the way they were: “Tears in my eyes, yeah - & - Say you’d die for me, die for me. And if you can’t, then baby, lie for me, lie for me. ‘Cause you haunt me when I’m dreamin’”.

Cry for Me was jealousy, and anger, and pride, but also regret. That’s where Mila realized both that she’d fucked up and that she wanted Laur back. We can also notice the difference between what she actually told her “When I said I hope you’re happy”, and what instead she really thought “didn’t mean it ” & “Move on? Please don’t” of the Only Told the Moon’s first verse. All that, resulted in something else. The realization of being in love with her, aka Must Be Love: “Must be love. Or this wouldn’t hurt so much. And I wouldn’t think so much. And I could just give you up”. The Must Be Love’s falling in love, is a connection that we find both with “And you can read between the lines but God, I fell” in the Only Told the Moon’s pre-chorus, and with “seventeen when I started to fall” in Used to This. If that’s why, we also find it with “And maybe people like me love too much” in Closure, but let’s talk about Used to This first.

Used to This is about the difference in their behaviors between when they were fuckbuddies and when they officially got together. About how Mila was getting used to being her girlfriend. The last part, however, is linked to the other three previous songs (XO (I Don’t Miss Ya), Cry for Me, and Must Be Love), which is when she broke up with her, regretting it and then wanting her back: the parts in the song parenthesis “(I’ll risk it all. Seventeen when I started to fall, but we lost it all, and I just can’t believe it all)”. And yes, guys, it’s seventeen when I started to fall. I, not we. I think you know me by now and that therefore you know that I don’t say bullshit because, unless I’m just telling you my theories and opinions about something, I always do my research before speaking. But in case any of you have any doubts, here. It’s written in the booklet:

Now that you’ve also seen it, can you do Mila (and me too) a favor? Can you please stop saying we? Thanks 🙏🏼🤣. Let’s move on to Closure.

After she realized she was in love with her, the fear of losing her forever set in because, as we’ve seen, Lo was acting as if she didn’t care about Mila anymore (And I hope that you care, that you’re there. It’s killing me - & - But the phone won’t ring ‘cause, darling, do I mean a thing?) and she was moving on with someone else (Then you moved on and I can’t carry on). Mila still had some hope (I want closure. Tell me it’s not over (it can’t be over, it can’t be over). Let me live in my fantasy where you still think of me), but the more time passed, the more she was little by little losing that hope. And we lastly arrive at Only Told the Moon. Last song (so far) that encompasses that chapter before they got back together.

In Only Told the Moon, as I started to explain to you, Mila told the moon everything that had happened from the breakup to the back then present, where her having hope and not giving up was rewarded (you’ll see later in the interpretation). That, in the reality happened at the end of December 2014/early January 2015 where we even saw the appearance of two rings 😏. I talked about it in a fairytale way and therefore not saying about the breakup but only about a fight in the 🗯️ - ɟ post: [Right click on the pic and go to ‘open image in a new tab’. Go to the tab that has just opened, and click on the image with the magnifying glass with the + sign in it to see and read everything better]

So that breakup lasted for about a month and a couple of weeks. Now I can go back to my Only Told the Moon ’s interpretation.

So. Brief summary. In the first verse, Camila was like: “So, my friend (moon), it all started like this…”. (Stay back) she broke up with her. She regretted it and wanted her back with her for good (stay long), but (And you“?”, move on) Laur was moving on [Sure, Jan 🤣]. When Mila found out (Move on“?”), she started thinking by emphasizing/repeating (I stress) in her head over and over again how much she wanted her close/back (come close) because, of course, she didn’t want Lo to move on (please don’t). And in the first pre-chorus, Camila began explaining to the moon the things that had happened in the period after the breakup. Mila by still talking to the moon: “People asked me how I was (people: Hello, how are you? How you’ve been?), but before answering them (Mila: Nothing much, just fine, I’m doing well), I was attacked by thoughts about Lauren (Mila, to herself: Lately I wonder how it feels to steal your kiss). And you can imagine my answer was bullshit because, God, I fell in love with her and I feel terrible without her” (Mila: And you can read between the lines but God, I fell).

All very trippy so far, huh? 🤯😏 I know, I know, and we’re not even done yet 🤣. And by the way, how many times have I said that Camila is a fucking genius? Because she is! She’s fucking brilliant!! 😍

Chorus 1:

“I only told the moon, tonight up on the roof

I told her that I’m scared that all my thoughts they look like you

I only told the moon, about the way you move

I asked her to please tell me if you tell things to her too”

I told her. HER: the moon. For those who don’t know, Mila refers to the moon as ‘she/her’ because in Spanish, as well as in Italian, moon is preceded by the feminine definite article, ‘la’. It says ‘la luna’ in Spanish as well as in Italian. In English, however, the article is always the same, ‘the’. It wasn’t difficult for me to understand it at the time, and no, not because for a couple of years now there has been the fashion to use the she/her for every object even when it actually has the masculine definite article as most part of native English speakers do to be cooler (they’re really really funny to me when they do it, by the way 🤣) precisely because they don’t know the difference because of the ‘the’. Nope. It wasn’t difficult for me to understand it at the time, precisely because I’m Italian. But anyway. Let’s go back to the interpretation.

There’s another little game here. For this time, it’s just a change of referent. If in the first verse and in the first pre-chorus Mila was talking directly to the moon, in the first chorus she was talking to Laur instead. But in reality, she wasn’t really talking to her. It’s as if she were imagining doing it. Lauren wasn’t really there, but Camila imagined that she was. She acted by speaking in the same way that she’d have spoken for real to Laur if Lo had really been there with her.

How come I think Camila was talking to her own imaginative creation of Laur and not Lauren herself? Because n°1, Camren weren’t on good terms at the time as we understood in the first verse, aka they didn’t talk to each other. N°2, as I said before, this whole song is a confession Mila made to the moon. And n°3, Mila herself asked the moon to tell her if Laur was thinking of her too in the last sentence of the first chorus. If Mila was really talking to Laur, she wouldn’t have asked the moon to give her her news. Ergo, Laur wasn’t there and Mila was just imagining talking to her.

Mila explained to Lo, aka her imaginative creation of Laur, about how she talked to her, to the moon. How she confided in her. How she told her secrets. Secrets she was comfortable revealing only to her: I only told the moon, tonight up on the roof. Secrets that, as in this case, represented her fear of not being able to think of anything other than her (Lo): I told her that I’m scared that all my thoughts they look like you.

I only told the moon, about the way you move. About the way you move… Ahem-ahem 🤭. I mean, if THAT doesn’t prove she was talking about a girl, I don’t know what would 🤣. Yeah, the song is enigmatic, and Mila tried to confuse the ideas for anyone who listened to it, but this is the only part of the whole song where it’s clear as day that she was talking about a girl. Her girl. And we know that she’s talked about it too before. Two examples that come to my mind now are OMG: “When she drop it bounce back like a yo-yo”, and Crown: “The way you move is serpentine”.

I asked her to please tell me if you tell things to her too. As I mentioned earlier, Mila asked the moon to tell her if Laur was talking about things with her too. She wanted to know if also Lo was telling the moon that she thought of Mila too.

We have three subjects here: I, me: Camila – Her: moon – You: Lauren. I (Mila) asked her (the moon) to please tell me (Mila) if you (Laur) tell things to her (the moon) too.

So basically, throughout the first chorus, Mila (I, me) imagined talking to Lo (you) about what she’d confessed to the moon (her) about her feelings for Laur herself.

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If you made it this far without a headache, congratulations!!!! 👏🏼🙌🏼🥳

Now take a deep breath and rest your brain for a moment because I’m probably about to give you one 😇😁👍🏼😉

BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP *sound effect*

Verse 2:

“Silence. Too loud

Say it, not now”

This is exactly the same thing we saw in the first verse. The same little game of missing pieces of a sentence. The problem with this one, was that it was even more difficult to decipher. It was the most complex part for me to code at the time. Why? Because not only do we find here the connection with everything I’ve explained so far, but even with a part of the second chorus. But let’s go in order.

We know that Mila suffers from OCD. This is a topic I’ve talked about in many of my posts and I need to do it one more time. OCD leads to having intrusive thoughts. You can’t control them even if you want to, and that, leads those thoughts to be continuous. So continuous, that they lead you to obsession, which in turn leads you to act in a way that is too impulsive, compulsive, just to try to distract yourself and not always think about the same thing [obsession and compulsive, two things that we find in the word itself: obsessive-compulsive disorder, OCD]. That, leads you in turn to anxiety because the fear of not being able to stop those thoughts takes over. Now, doesn’t that ring a bell? Don’t you recognize those same words said in the song? No? I’ll give you a hand: “I only told the moon, tonight up on the roof - I told her that I’m scared that all my thoughts they look like you”.

Explanation I’ve now given on the OCD: That, leads you in turn to anxiety because the fear of not being able to stop those thoughts takes over.

Explanation I gave in the first chorus: Mila explained to Lo, aka her imaginative creation of Laur, about how she talked to her, to the moon. How she confided in her. How she told her secrets. Secrets she was comfortable revealing only to her: I only told the moon, tonight up on the roof. Secrets that, as in this case, represented her fear of not being able to think of anything other than her (Lo): I told her that I’m scared that all my thoughts they look like you.

Yeeep. I didn’t explain this in the first chorus because I needed this connection right now because of what I’m about to explain. But before doing that, I’d also like to add how we’ve seen those intrusive, repetitive thoughts about Lo in two other parts as well: 1) I stress, when she started thinking by emphasizing/repeating in her head over and over again how much she wanted her back, and 2) Lately I wonder how it feels to steal your kiss, when her mind spaced out on Laur instead of immediately answering the questions Hello, how are you? How you’ve been?.

Now. By Silence. Too loud, Mila referred to the intrusive thoughts of her OCD. The “Little voices in my head” that we also find in Consequences, you know? And as I said in that interpretation (in the penultimate ask): “By “Little voices in my head” she was referring to the intrusive thoughts of her OCD. Have you ever noticed that when we read, when we write, and when we think, it’s our own voice the one we hear in our head? Well, it’s the same thing that happens with OCD, and Mila was listening to intrusive thoughts whispering to her, or talking to her, or even screaming to her in her mental voice just as it would happen to all of us with any other thought.”

So, again, Silence. Too loud. There was silence outside. Even between them. Another thing that makes us understand they weren’t talking to each other. But in her head? There were those Little voices that were too loud. In this case (because we’re talking about the song and not Mila and OCD in a generic way), they were all about “Lauren, Lauren, Lauren”. Also because, as you’ve seen, Mila herself only told the moon that she was scared that all her thoughts they looked like Lo.

Say it, not now. Still in this case, imagine as if Mila and those Little voices in her head were having a conversation with each other. In reality, Mila was having an internal conversation with herself, but imagine that as Pinocchio with her conscience, aka Jiminy Cricket. The voices were telling her: “Talk to her. Take her back. Tell her you miss her. Tell her you fell in love with her. Tell her how you feel instead of only talking to the moon about it. Tell her how you feel instead of only imagining doing it (as we saw in the first chorus). Say it to her for real. Take the courage and do it!”. By shitting in her pants just at the idea, Mila answered: “Not now. Later on in time, sure, but not now. I’m not ready yet”.

So. I’ve explained to you the connection that there is in the second verse with everything I’ve already explained so far. But, before explaining the part that for me was the most complex to decipher, which is the connection between the second verse and a part of the second chorus, let’s move on to the second pre-chorus. As I said before, let’s go in order.

Pre-Chorus 2:

“So, how are you? How you’ve been?

Lately I wonder how it feels to taste your lips

Nothing much, just fine, I’m doing well

And you can read between the lines but God, I fell”

The second pre-chorus and the first are the same. They don’t have different meanings, but we do find two differences here: the replacement of Hello with So before the questions, and the replacement of steal your kiss with taste your lips.

The two differences don’t change the meaning of the second pre-chorus per se. They’re just indicators of the time that was passing. Mila was still telling and confessing everything to the moon except for the last part in which she referred directly to her. And if first she wondered how it would feel to steal Laur’s kiss, then she wondered how it would feel to taste Laur’s lips. First indicator of the time that was passing.

The second one, which is the replacement of Hello with So before the questions, makes us understand how also other people different from the first ones were asking her those questions. Nothing wrong with that. I mean, as I explained earlier, they’re spontaneous courtesy questions you ask people you know when you see them. Like for example when you and a friend meet for a coffee. Once the two of you have hugged to greet each other, and once you’ve sat down at a table, one of you usually starts the conversation precisely in that way: So, how are you? How you’ve been?

Chorus 2:

“I only told the moon, tonight up on the roof

I told her that I’m scared that all my thoughts they look like you

I only told the moon, about the way you move

I asked her to please tell me if you tell things to her too”

So far, it’s all the same as the first chorus. Immediately after, however, we find an addition that distinguishes them:

“That I give it all to you, I give it all to you, I give it all to you

I only told the moon”

Now I can finally explain to you the connection between the second verse and a part of the second chorus. THIS part of the second chorus.

The first chorus ends with I asked her to please tell me if you tell things to her too. If you combine it with the part following that, which we find here in the second chorus, we get: I asked her to please tell me if you tell things to her too that I give it all to you. And tell me honestly, does that make sense? Nope. It makes no sense. So I told myself that it had to be yet another game. I thought, what if that part (That I give it all to you, I give it all to you, I give it all to you - I only told the moon) has nothing to do with the parts of the choruses that are the same? What if it had another connection with something else here in the song? Well, why the hell not 🤷🏻‍♀️.­­ And that’s how I found it 😏. That’s how I understood that this part of the second chorus had the connection with the second verse.

Small summary of the second verse to make you understand better: Silence. Too loud. Say it, not now. There was silence outside, but in Mila’s head, there were those too loud Little voices she was having a conversation with.

It’s in that conversation that we need to add the second chorus part. And now, that conversation becomes:

Voices: “Talk to her. Take her back. Tell her you miss her. Tell her you fell in love with her. Tell her you give it all to her. All your love. All of yourself because she means the world to you. Tell her how you feel instead of only talking to the moon about it. Tell her how you feel instead of only imagining doing it (as we saw in the first chorus). Say it to her for real. Take the courage and do it!”. By shitting in her pants just at the idea, Mila answered: “Not now. Later on in time, sure, but not now. I’m not ready yet”.

So what are the new key points of the connection? These one: Tell her you give it all to her. All your love. All of yourself because she means the world to you. Tell her how you feel instead of only talking to the moon about it. Tell her how you feel instead of only imagining doing it. Say it to her for real.

“Tell her you give it all to her. All your love. All of yourself because she means the world to you” is actually That I give it all to you.

“Tell her how you feel instead of only talking to the moon about it” is because that’s what Mila did, aka I only told the moon which we find in both choruses.

“Tell her how you feel instead of only imagining doing it (as we saw in the first chorus)”. And what did we see in the first chorus? That Mila was imagining talking to Lo about what she’d confessed to the moon about her feelings for Laur herself.  

“Say it to her for real” But say what to her for real? Answer: “Tell her you miss her. Tell her you fell in love with her. Tell her you give it all to her. All your love. All of yourself because she means the world to you. Tell her how you feel instead of only talking to the moon about it. Tell her how you feel instead of only imagining doing it. …… Take the courage and do it!”. By shitting in her pants just at the idea, Mila answered: “Not now. Later on in time, sure, but not now. I’m not ready yet”.

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Basically, the connection between the second verse and a part of the second chorus, is an addition to what the Little voices Mila was having a conversation with told her. The game we find in ‘That I give it all to you, I give it all to you, I give it all to you - I only told the moon’, is that this sentence should be read backwards. I only told the moon that I give it all to you. It’s as simple as that. The Little voices, aka Mila herself, told her to tell Lo all the things I’ve listed, with the addition that we find here that she gives it all to her, instead of only telling the moon or just imagining doing it. 😏

Bridge:

“Ah-ah ah-ah ah-aaah

Ah-ah ah-ah ah-aaah”

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Mila angelically sings this part twice by switching from the lowest to the highest vocal range. There’s actually nothing to interpret here. It’s just something I wanted to include because she gave me goosebumps the first few times I listened to it. That’s all 🤷🏻‍♀️🙃.

“Uuuh-And another love song, will play on the radio, you know”

A love song, aka yet another thing that would’ve made her think about Lo. Here Mila was again imagining talking to Lo as I explained to you in the first chorus. ‘you know’, YOU, Lauren. I explained this to you guys when I told you about the subjects, remember?

“Ah-ah ah-ah ah-aaah

Ah-ah ah-ah ah-aaah

Uuh-And I’ll wait for the moon to lean in close, and say”

Why did the moon have to lean in close to tell her something? Think about that for a moment. When is it that you lean in close to someone in that way? When you want to whisper something, habitually either very close to their face so they can hear, or in their ear. It’s usually something that no one else can hear. A secret. Basically, it’s a metaphor Mila used because their story was secret. Especially in the beginning, very few people knew about them, and if that’s why, their entire story has always been and still is a secret to the world. And I’m talking in a general way of course, not about people who know them.

So it was like: And another love song will play on the radio that will make me think about you, you know, Lauren? And, in the meantime, I’ll wait for the moon to lean in close as if it were a secret because no one knew, and say:

Chorus 3:

“That he only told the moon, tonight up on the roof”

AAAAAnd we have the entry of a fourth subject. At first glance, it might have seemed that Mila was referring to a guy for obvious reasons. At the time, I initially thought that was the one Lo was moving on with, but then I reflected and said to myself: “Naaah. Why on earth would this guy have had to confess to the moon the same things as Mila if he already had the girl (Laur)? Her girl! Not to mention the fact that this guy should’ve seen the moon as a friend and have the same kind of love for her that Mila has. Pfffffft!! Come on! It would’ve been an all too huge coincidence!!! No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Nope. This is just another game. Think, Fa, think. Who is this he?”. I looked at the lyrics again and answered to myself right after: the sun. Remember the explanation I gave you in the first chorus about the ‘she/her’ for the moon? It’s the same thing. Here Mila referred to the sun with ‘he’ because in Spanish, as well as in Italian, the sun is preceded by the masculine definite article. ‘El sol’ in Spanish, and ‘il sole’ in Italian.

So I understood that it was the sun, BUT, and yes, there’s a but, he only told the moon is a game within a game. A double game. In their story, Camila is the moon and Lauren is the sun. Mila herself said that she personifies the sun and the moon a lot as people and that she identifies herself to the moon. I explained everything in an ask of my Inauguration post as you can see here: [Same thing as before. Right click on the pic and go to ‘open image in a new tab’. Go to the tab that has just opened, and click on the image with the magnifying glass with the + sign in it to see and read everything better]

As I also said in that post, the personification in their story is: Camila: moon. Lauren: sun. The sun and the moon love each other, as do Laur and Mila. Now look at this:

“i have late night conversations with the moon. she tells me about the sun, and i tell her about you”: i (Mila) have late night conversations with the moon. she (moon) tells me about the sun, and i (Mila) tell her about you (Laur). It’s exactly the same method she used here in the song!

“That he only told the moon, tonight up on the roof”. So in this case, Mila personified the sun. He: sun, aka Lauren. That he only told the moon, tonight up on the roof: That Lauren only told the moon, tonight up on the roof. Her sun only told the moon.

“He told me that he’s scared that all his thoughts they look like you”

Remember earlier that Mila said she was waiting for the moon to lean in close one day to tell her that? [I said one day because Mila used the future: I’ll wait for the moon to lean in close. Meaning: it hadn’t happened yet. She was still just hoping for it]. This means that it was the moon that was talking here. He told me that he’s scared that all his thoughts they look like you: He (the sun, Lauren) told me (the moon) that he’s (Lauren’s) scared that all his (Lauren’s) thoughts they look like you (Camila).

I know that many understood that that he was the sun. I also know that many thought it was the actual sun that was talking to the moon. I know they thought that Mila talked to the moon, Laur to the sun, and that the moon and sun talked to each other by then exchanging that same information to the girls, but that’s not the case. I highly doubt the sun could be found talking to the moon tonight up on the roof. During a lunar eclipse (since they occur in the night)? More likely, but I doubt Mila implied that. Talking tonight up on the roof is a metaphor that indicates something that a person would do when alone and in secret because away from prying ears; meaning: a confession. In this case, as I’ve already told you, confession to whom? Only Told the Moon, aka the fulcrum of the entire song.

So the actual sun had nothing to do with it here and it was the moon that talked in the first person through Camila’s hope. Ergo, something that hadn’t really happened. Mila was waiting for the moon to one day tell her that Laur, and therefore her personification of the sun, had also gone ‘up on the roof’ one night to confide in her, the moon itself. Mila was waiting for the moon to one day lean in close to tell her what? That Laur, her sun, only told her, the moon, that she was scared that all her thoughts they looked like Mila.

Mila speaking: And I’ll (Camila) wait for the moon to lean in close and say [Say what?=] that he (the sun, Lauren) only told the moon, tonight up on the roof. Moon speaking: He (Lauren) told me (the moon) that he’s (Lauren’s) scared that all his (Lauren’s) thoughts they look like you (Camila).

Information passing: Camila was talking to the moon. Camila hoped that her sun (Lauren) would also talk to the moon. The moon was talking to Camila, and for Camila’s hope, also with Lauren, aka her sun.

“I only told the moon, about the way you move

I asked her to please tell me if you tell this to her too”

And back to Camila speaking again. I (Mila) asked her (moon) to please tell me (Mila) if you (Lo) tell this to her (moon) too. Different from I asked her to please tell me if you tell things to her too that we find in the first two choruses. The difference is that, if first Mila asked the moon to tell her if Laur talked about things with her too (if you tell things to her too: things in general), here she asked her to tell her specifically if Lo talked to her about Mila too. About the way Mila moves and if she was scared that all her thoughts they looked like Mila (if you tell this to her too: the exact same things Mila talked about with the moon).

Basically, Mila was hoping that sooner or later the moon would’ve told her in secret that Laur had also confided in her by telling her that all she did was think about Mila too.

Outro:

“That I give it all to you, I give it all to you, I give it all to you

We only told the moon

He, he, ha he, he, ha he

We only told the moon”

Well, well, well. Would you look at that 😏. Putting aside the connection between the second verse and a part of the second chorus that I’ve already explained to you, and the singing part that I added myself, what do we have here? Mila finally knew that Lo too had the same thoughts and the same fears as her. We only told the moon. Literally, it means they both only told the moon, buuut, what the hell is going on? Wasn’t Mila just hoping that Lo would also confide in the moon sooner or later until the third chorus? What had changed?

Their situation. Their situation had changed. They’d gotten back together and that’s why Mila knew and could say with certainty that they only told the moon. We only told the moon was simply another indicator of the time that had passed. The last indicator of the time that had passed! Lyrically speaking, Mila explains that they’d gotten back together and that for that reason, Laur told her that she’d confided in the moon too. The hope that her sun would also talk about her to the moon had become reality. WITH ONLY FIVE WORDS!! 🤯🤯🤯 MASTERMIND! SHE. IS. BRILLIANT.!!!!! 🔥

Remember that when I told you about XO (I Don’t Miss Ya), Cry for Me, Must Be Love, Used to This, and Closure, I told you that Only Told the Moon is the last song (so far) that encompasses that chapter before they got back together? Mila started writing it when she thought it was really over between them. When she thought she’d lost her for real. When her hope was fading more and more. This was the last song of acceptance and hope in getting back together with her before actually getting back together with her. And the following year, when she by then had already been back with her for some time, she finished it by being able to insert the happy ending as well. One of the best-hidden things in my opinion 🤩.

Mila used these riddles, these games with sentences, with the various meanings behind them, and, above all, with personal pronouns, with the sole purpose of trying to confuse the ideas for anyone who listened to the song; as I also told you in the first chorus. She only used four subjects in the song, but she twisted pronouns and meanings on purpose. For most of the song, there was: the moon, she/her – the sun, aka Lauren, he - Lauren, you - and lastly Camila herself, I/me. The amazing thing, is that she managed to perfectly confuse things. Like for example the fact that she used the you for Lauren in order not to make it clear that she was talking about a girl. For fear that people who wouldn’t understand that with she/her she meant the moon and not a girl, she also inserted the he, which however, in this case, was the sun aka Lo, and not a guy. A motherfucking genius, I told you! 😍😍😍 And all this at just 17 years old with no professional help from fucking anyone!!!!!! 🤩🤩🤩

Last thing before I go. Something that my baby @romanticentropy​ reminded me of because I was way too focused on seeing things in that year (2014). This beautiful song, also has a lil connection with another unreleased song that Mila wrote in 2018: Taxi. “We’ll tell the moon when we’re old. The greatest love story that’s never been told”.

That We’ll tell the moon when we’re old, is connected to this We only told the moon. This makes us understand that Camren only told the moon about them since 2014, they’ve continued and continue to do so now in the present, and will continue to tell the moon about their greatest love story that’s never been told even when they’re old. The little hope that Mila gave me is the fact that she didn’t insert the only there that time. So maybe, MAYBE they won’t tell their greatest love story only to the moon 😍🤞🏼🙏🏼. But 🤫🤐.

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Aaand that’s it 😉. This is my interpretation. The way I solved the riddles 🧐. I hope you liked it, and I hope I didn’t cause too many headaches 😅🤭🤣. See you next time 😘.

Remember to be nice. Always. Both with others and with yourselves. Be a good example. Be patient. Be safe and take care of yourselves. Don’t let our ship sink. Keep shipping them, but please respectfully 🙏🏼. Sending you virtual love and hugs 🤗🤗🤗. I love you, babies. Always with love, F ❤️.

P.S. happy valentine’s day to all of you, my babies 🌹🌹🌹 (it’s already past midnight here 🙃). But happy valentine’s day to you especially, baby 👭🏻💓 [@romanticentropy​]. It’s been exactly one year since we chatted for the very first time:

And tomorrow, the 15th, it will be exactly one year since I wrote this valentine’s post, 🌹 - ɟ, which, however, was posted the next day:

THAT was really the beginning 🤩🤩🤩. Soooo, happy anniversary, amore mio❣️💋💌💘💝💖💗💓💞💕💟💐🌹🌸🏵️🌺🌻🌼🌷🍾🥂🎇🎈🎉✨🎊🎀🎁👭🏻👩🏻‍❤️‍💋‍👩🏻 *even though our actual anniversary is still 5 days away 🤭*. I’m one lucky bish 😍.

[romanticentropy]

Mi amor! 😍😍😍😍😍😍

Happy Valentine's day, mi amor, my baby, my source of smiles, my angel, the fuel to the sparks and hearts around me everyday 💖💖💖💖💖💖💖

🥰🥰🥰🥰 A year since I volunteered as tribute to be your valentine and god, how thankful I am to have volunteered 😍 It brought to me an unmeasurable amount of happiness and tenderness and positivity, and the immense privilege of having you in my life. I am the lucky bish!!!!

You know how much I loved your post and you also know how braindead I am right now to write a whole reply like I usually do ❤️ You're SO smart, bish! I can't with you and your eye for the hidden details! And with your nerdy introduction 😍😍😍 I love you @fa-by ! ❤️

Only Told the Moon

Hey my babies 👋🏼🤗. As I promised I would, ta-daaah 🎉✨🎊.

So 😁, today I wanna talk to you about the spectral theory of linear operators in Hilbert spaces and tensor analysis.

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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I’m kidding of course 🤣. The title of the post already says today’s topic. You guys thank the K Anon for the ask.

Hi K 👋🏼😄. Have a nice day too and hope you like it 😊.

So. Camila wrote and produced Only Told the Moon in a hotel room by using GarageBand, a software to create music developed by Apple that can also be used by those who don’t know how to play any musical instrument. A snippet was leaked in 2016, but then the entire song was leaked on Feb 16, 2017. Mila started writing it in 2014 when she was 17, and finished it at 18 the following year in 2015. And when did she ‘say’ that she’d completed it? On Lauren’s birthday:

Why don’t you put an even bigger sign that directly says “THIS IS FOR LAUREN!” next time, Mila? 🤣 I mean, of all days, right on her birthday? Okay 🤣. But thanks tho 😉🤭.

There’s also this one here which I’m pretty sure was another hint to the lyrics:

We know how much Mila likes the moon:

We know how much Mila likes the sun and the moon: Ahem-ahem, her sun… 😎

And this one here… I mean, Mila???? On her birthday the following year? AGAIN??????? 🤣🤣🤣

But this one… Ooooh, this one! 🤭🤣

Mila, bish! Are you really gonna tell me that when you posted it, you didn’t know that it was actually the edit of THIS one?

Little story for you. It was early March 2016 and I’d been in the fandom for a very very short time. This Camren fanart was one of the first I saw. At the time, however, I saw the original. As you can see, this one is cropped and the quality is not the best. I tried to look for the original which was of the same quality as the edited one that Mila posted, but I unfortunately couldn’t find it anywhere. The point is that I saw it. That one was created first. That one was actually the original. Then it was edited, maybe by the same person who created it, but I don’t know that. But I do know with absolute certainty, also because everyone said it at the time, that that one was created first. So, my question remains the same:

Are you really gonna tell me that when you posted it, you didn’t know that it was actually the edit of THIS one?? KARLA CAMILA CABELLO ESTRABAO!!!!!!!!!!! COME ON, NOW!!!! WHO ARE YOU KIDDING???? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

But back to being serious now. We have ‘the classic’ one:

That’s the famous sun and moon artwork (created by Zias and posted on the artist website DeviantArt). It was the first one to be used by fans as cover art for the song when the snippet was leaked in 2016. We saw Mila use it many times on her social networks:

And we even saw it worn on her sweatshirt on November 27, 2015, in Mexico for The Reflection Tour, both for an interview with Telehit and for the meet & greet:

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There are obviously tons of other pics and tweets where Mila talked about the sun and the moon, but I think these ones are enough. Let’s focus on the song now. I love this song 🥰. This song made me realize how talented Mila was, since she was only 17 when she started it. How much of a great songwriter she was already at the time since this is one of the first songs she wrote 100% on her own and without professional help. Then honestly the fact that it was so complex, made me like it 100 times more 😜.

But anyway, I advise you to mentally prepare yourselves because this is the longest interpretation I’ve done so far. Make yourselves a sandwich, or a coffee, or I don’t know, something that can accompany you on the journey 😄. Oh and, as usual, you can even disagree with me, but this is the way I see it 😊.

Okay, ready? Let’s go! 🙌🏼

Verse 1:

“Stay back, stay long

And you, move on

I stress, come close

Move on, please don’t”

One of the things I love the most about this song is how cryptic it is 😍, and I think you know by now how much of a sucker I am for deciphering things 😏. So what do we have here? We have words, but something doesn’t add up. There appear to be holes. As if there were missing pieces of a sentence, right? Well, that’s because it is like that. Or at least, it is for me. On whole sentences, Mila only used a few words. So basically, it was as if she’d removed the rest because the meaning of those words alone, had the same concept as one or more whole sentences. I’ll explain better with an example:

“On my way home after work last night, I tripped on a really dirty sidewalk and fell to my knees by tearing off my new polka dotted pantyhose that I loved, and breaking the heel of my shoe because I was distracted looking at my phone”. Now, that’s the whole sentence. But if I just write “On my way home. I fell. Distracted.” in that same cryptic way, wouldn’t you understand anyway that the fact of the matter is that I fell? Wouldn’t you understand anyway even without the need to know all those details in the whole sentence that my distracted ass was on the ground? I really think so. Oh and, just to clarify, this didn’t really happen. I’m not clumsy and I certainly don’t work in heels 🤣. It was just an example I created for you to understand. Let’s move on 🙃.

So, what was Mila actually talking about? What is the meaning behind it? We have ‘Stay back, stay long’ which makes us understand both their usual back-and-forth/cycle/loop, and how Camila was the one who broke up with Lauren and that then wanted her back. When? When ‘And you, move on’; aka when Laur had found someone else. Oh and, the ‘And you’ is a question. You can notice it by listening to the way she sings it: And you? Move on.

‘I stress, come close - Move on, please don’t’. These two, already at the time (2017) made me understand that Mila wasn’t really talking to Laur. They were just thoughts in her head that she, however, didn’t tell her 100% for pride reasons. She broke up with her, saw that Lo was moving on, and instead of telling her in person how much she wanted her close/back (come close) and how much she didn’t want her to move on (Move on, please don’t), she talked to herself by repeating it (I stress) over and over again in her head. I understood this especially because the ‘Move on’ is a question and the ‘please don’t’ is the reaction to the affirmative answer of the question. It was like: Mila saw Lo with someone else and thought “Is she moving on? Oh, no. No, no, no, no, no, please no!”. As with ‘And you’, if you listen closely, you can clearly hear that it’s a question and that Mila says “Move on? Please don’t”.

Therefore, to recap. Stay back, which literally means that Mila told her to leave her alone/stay away from her, aka the artistic way she used to describe the moment she broke up with her. Then she regretted it. She wanted her back and wanted Lo to stay with her for a long time, aka for good (stay long). But what did Laur do? (And you“?”) She moved on (move on) [Sure, Jan]. And when Mila realized this (Move on“?”), she started thinking by emphasizing/repeating (I stress) in her head over and over again how much she wanted her close/back (come close) because, obviously, she didn’t want Lo to move on (please don’t).

Pre-Chorus 1:

“Hello, how are you? How you’ve been?

Lately I wonder how it feels to steal your kiss

Nothing much, just fine, I’m doing well

And you can read between the lines but God, I fell”

Ohhh, I can read between the lines, baby!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 All kidding aside🤣, I’m serious now. We have another little riddle here. A puzzle, or rather, a game. A game with sentences, a game with the various meanings behind it, and, above all, a game with personal pronouns. Actually, the whole motherfucking song is based on these three things 🤣. But anyway.

With the first two sentences (Hello, how are you? How you’ve been? - Lately I wonder how it feels to steal your kiss), it might have seemed at first as if Mila was asking those questions to Laur, right? Right. And with ‘Nothing much, just fine, I’m doing well - And you can read between the lines but God, I fell’, it might have seemed at first as if Lo had answered her that, right? Right. But then you’ll have stopped for a moment and said “Wait a minute! Hold on, hold on, hold on, wait a fucking minute! If Laur had moved on in the first verse, why on earth would she tell Mila to read between the lines right after telling her she was doing well? [Reading between the lines means finding the subtext/implication, and in this case, I’m doing well, means the exact opposite read between the lines: I’m NOT doing well] It wouldn’t make sense because she would never have admitted it for a pride matter.”

So you must have thought it was the other way around. That it was Lauren the one who was asking Camila those questions, right? Right. But then the confusion will have entered again because, again, if Laur was moving on in the first verse, why after the questions would she have told her that lately she was wondering how it would feel to steal her kiss? Why move on and simply not get back with her as Mila also secretly wanted (I stress, come close - Move on, please don’t)? It would’ve been a contradiction. And therefore you must have thought, “Okay, Lauren asked her the two questions, but everything else in the sentences was just Camila, right? That’s gotta be it. Right? Right.” WROOONG! It’s all wrong 🤣. As I said before, it’s game with sentences, a game with the various meanings behind it, and, above all, a game with personal pronouns.

This song, this whole song is a confession. A confession of how things had gone and how things were still going between Camila and Lauren. A confession that Mila made. To whom? Who was she telling all these things to? The freaking song title is the answer 🤣: Only Told the Moon. For Mila, the moon is a friend. A protector who watches over her and from whom she ‘goes’ to confide, especially when she feels alone.

So. I explained the game in the first verse, but what’s the game in the first pre-chorus?

In the first verse, Mila talked to the moon about what happened between her and Lauren by using the present tense. As if she was reliving the memories. But in reality,  they were things that had already happened. In the first pre-chorus indeed, she used ‘Lately I wonder’; thing that makes us understand how some time had passed since the first verse, that is, since Mila had broken up with Laur to then regretting it while Lo was moving on. In the first pre-chorus, however, Mila explained to the moon the things that had happened in the period after the breakup. She explained to the moon how she was being asked if she was okay, and that even though she answered that she was, she actually wasn’t okay at all. Yeah guys 🤣, it was actually external people who asked those two questions to Camila, and not Lauren to Camila or vice versa. Before you get confused for the umpteenth time 🤣, let me go on so you’ll understand what I mean 🙃.

Read the first pre-chorus in this way by pretending that the two sentences I crossed out don’t exist for a moment, okay?

Hello, how are you? How you’ve been?

Lately I wonder how it feels to steal your kiss

Nothing much, just fine, I’m doing well

And you can read between the lines but God, I fell

Those are two questions and that’s an answer to both. And so far, so good. It’s very simple. I also explained to you that Mila in the song was telling and confessing everything to the moon, and therefore, this also excludes the moon itself from the sentences that I haven’t crossed out. But in the last sentence, on the other hand, we have the moon as a referent (I’ll explain that shortly), and that’s why I said that those who asked Mila those questions were external people. If you still have doubts about it, think about it for a moment. Those are questions you ask a person you haven’t seen for a while, and what sense would it have made for one of them (Camren) to ask the other ‘Hello, how are you? How you’ve been?’ if we know perfectly well that they were together 24-7? 😏

Now that I hope I’ve removed this doubt as well, let’s move on. As I was saying, in the first pre-chorus Mila explained to the moon the things that had happened after the breakup. She explained to the moon how people asked her how she was: Hello, how are you? How you’ve been?. And since she wasn’t okay, those questions immediately made her think of Lo.

You know when you’re talking to someone and your mind spaces out thinking about something else? Maybe because that someone said something that reminded you of that thing that’s distracting you from the conversation. Well, we know how short Camila’s attention span is and how easily distracted she is 🤣. But, while that’s usually funny because, I mean, it’s Camila, and it’s one of the billions of reasons why I love her, in this case of the song, her mind spaced out on Laur because she was suffering for her. So in that timeframe between immediately after the questions and before the answer, and because of the questions, Mila thought about Lo and how she would’ve wanted to kiss her: Lately I wonder how it feels to steal your kiss. It was like, people: “Hello, how are you? How you’ve been?” – Mila by thinking of Laur ‘Lately I wonder how it feels to steal your kiss’ to then answering:

“Nothing much, just fine, I’m doing well. I’m just as good as an ass sitting on a cactus, thanks for asking. What about you?”.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 All kidding aside now. Immediately after thinking of Laur, Mila came back to reality and, as you saw up here, she answered with the bullshit that she was doing well: Nothing much, just fine, I’m doing well.

Sometimes the people who ask you those questions do it because they’re fond of you and there’s really an interest on their part in knowing how you’re doing. Others, still those ones who are fond of you, ask them to you because they saw or already knew that something was wrong, and it’s their way of letting you vent to help you (sometimes that doesn’t work because you prefer to lie to them despite trusting them simply because you don’t want to talk about it). Then there are those ones who ask you just for gossip and not because they really care about you; especially if they saw that something was wrong, they can’t wait to know the reason to then go gossiping by telling someone else everything. And lastly, there are those ones who ask you just out of courtesy. Like, for example, the typical two-second encounter that happens when you see someone you know: “Heeey, hi, how are you?” whose answer is always “I’m good. How are you?” even if you feel like shit, “I’m good. See ya”, you know? These are questions that you ask others yourself as well. Everyone does and no one really cares about the answer because, whether you’re really okay or not, the answer is always “I’m good/fine/okay” regardless, because you wouldn’t talk about personal matters with someone you don’t trust, and same thing for them towards you.

In Mila’s case, we know that 5H were always surrounded by people. Especially on tour or on promotional weeks, they saw and met people every day. Their team, sound engineers, assistants, photographers, interviewers, fans, etc., etc. People in general. So, “Hello, how are you? How you’ve been?”, whether they were courtesy questions or not, Mila still received them every day even several times a day from different people.

Moving forward we find a slight change of scenery. This is where the moon comes into play as an actual referent. From telling the moon about their breakup and what happened both immediately after and a short while after it, Mila spoke in the present-present by addressing the moon directly: “And you can read between the lines but God, I fell”. Meaning: You, moon, you can read between the lines and understand that I answered those questions with bullshit because I’m not doing well. I broke up with her, she started moving on, I regret it, and now I feel terrible because I miss her. I know she’s kinda dating somebody else, but God, I fell in love with her and I want her back.

I had the confirmation that I was even more right about both first verse and first pre-chorus (and the song in general actually) in the years that followed thanks to five other songs: three unreleased ones and two officially released ones. These songs are: XO (I Don’t Miss Ya) leaked in 2020, Cry for Me officially released in 2019 as a promotional single for Romance, Must Be Love leaked in 2019, Used to This officially released in 2019 with Romance, and Closure leaked in 2022. That one, plus Only Told the Moon, is the order of the music timeline concerning the post-breakup period [XO (I Don’t Miss Ya), Cry for Me, Must Be Love, Used to This, Closure, and Only Told the Moon]. I’ll explain better why to you:

Camren officially got together in early April 2014 and broke up in late November of the same year (Camila was 17). To be precise, it was Mila who broke up with Lo. I’m not just saying that because I understood it from this song (Only Told the Moon) which was the first of those five we had (2017). I’m saying that because Camila herself said it two years later and therefore I had confirmation of it. But we’ll get there shortly. Let me follow the order of the music timeline.

So. Mila broke up with Lo. Their first breakup since they were official. Laur was certainly not happy about it but, she sure as hell behaved as if she were, aka XO (I Don’t Miss Ya). Lo was hurt and, driven by anger, she acted as if she cared neither that Mila broke up with her and the reasons why she did, nor Mila herself. She acted as if she was better off without her. Partially true because soon after, she found someone else to ‘move on with’ briefly.

Examples of what I told you in the song: Lo was hurt and, driven by anger, she acted as if she cared neither that Mila broke up with her and the reasons why she did (So keep your feelings inside of your head. I like you better when you keep em’ there. Don’t let me know, don’t let me know. Unfortunately, I don’t miss ya //// “Don’t let me know, don’t let me know”, funny how exactly two years later [2016], she asked her the exact opposite in Let Me Know [interpretation here, penultimate ask]), nor Mila herself (I don’t need nobody to make me feel good - & - Used to be xo, now we’re exes). She acted as if she was better off without her. (Appreciate it when you’re not around. I like you better when you’re out of town. Better alone, better alone. Unfortunately, I don’t miss ya). Partially true because soon after, she found someone else to ‘move on with’ briefly.

That, on the other hand, resulted in anger in Mila triggered by jealousy, aka I’m Pissed Off You’re Happy (“I’m pissed off you’re happy, you’re happy y-y-y-y-y. I’m pissed off you’re happy, without me e-e-e-e-e”), which in turn years later became what we know as Cry for Me. And now I can tell you when Mila herself said she broke up with her: (here, min 2:31) Camila: “I broke up with somebody, and I was like: ‘okay’. But then, a few days after, I would just see them- just looking so happy, so radiant, like, dating someone else so quickly; and I was like: ‘Wait! Like, that was so- I knew you were gonna move on, but that was really, really fast. Like, I feel jealous that you were able to move on and be happy so much faster than me’”.

So basically: Mila broke up with her and she was like ‘I’m okay with it. I did the right thing’. Lo, hurt, acted like ‘Better this way. I don’t give a shit. I’m happy like this’, and I’m also convinced that it was out of spite that she kinda started dating someone else. And Mila became jealous and angry. It was like, she saw her happy? = “Well, you look so happy walking down the street, don’t you, babe? - & - And you’re okay, you’re okay, how can you be okay? No, why won’t you cry?”. The fact that Lo wasn’t hurt (only according to her since Laur didn’t show it) from the breakup and her, infuriated Mila.

Mila learned that Lo was already dating someone else, and instead of telling her that she wasn’t okay with it, out of even more anger and pride, Mila told her she was happy for her = “When I said I hope you’re happy, didn’t mean it”. Then the increasingly angry and jealous reasoning started in her head, still because, out of pride, she didn’t say anything to Laur: “Never thought you’d be so good at moving on - & - You said that in this lifetime you could never get over me? Are you over me? - & - Who can make you forget about me? - & - I want you to cry for me, cry for me - & - And it’s time you know the feeling”. Lastly followed by the regret of having broken up with Lo and the wanting things back the way they were: “Tears in my eyes, yeah - & - Say you’d die for me, die for me. And if you can’t, then baby, lie for me, lie for me. ‘Cause you haunt me when I’m dreamin’”.

Cry for Me was jealousy, and anger, and pride, but also regret. That’s where Mila realized both that she’d fucked up and that she wanted Laur back. We can also notice the difference between what she actually told her “When I said I hope you’re happy”, and what instead she really thought “didn’t mean it ” & “Move on? Please don’t” of the Only Told the Moon’s first verse. All that, resulted in something else. The realization of being in love with her, aka Must Be Love: “Must be love. Or this wouldn’t hurt so much. And I wouldn’t think so much. And I could just give you up”. The Must Be Love’s falling in love, is a connection that we find both with “And you can read between the lines but God, I fell” in the Only Told the Moon’s pre-chorus, and with “seventeen when I started to fall” in Used to This. If that’s why, we also find it with “And maybe people like me love too much” in Closure, but let’s talk about Used to This first.

Used to This is about the difference in their behaviors between when they were fuckbuddies and when they officially got together. About how Mila was getting used to being her girlfriend. The last part, however, is linked to the other three previous songs (XO (I Don’t Miss Ya), Cry for Me, and Must Be Love), which is when she broke up with her, regretting it and then wanting her back: the parts in the song parenthesis “(I’ll risk it all. Seventeen when I started to fall, but we lost it all, and I just can’t believe it all)”. And yes, guys, it’s seventeen when I started to fall. I, not we. I think you know me by now and that therefore you know that I don’t say bullshit because, unless I’m just telling you my theories and opinions about something, I always do my research before speaking. But in case any of you have any doubts, here. It’s written in the booklet:

Now that you’ve also seen it, can you do Mila (and me too) a favor? Can you please stop saying we? Thanks 🙏🏼🤣. Let’s move on to Closure.

After she realized she was in love with her, the fear of losing her forever set in because, as we’ve seen, Lo was acting as if she didn’t care about Mila anymore (And I hope that you care, that you’re there. It’s killing me - & - But the phone won’t ring 'cause, darling, do I mean a thing?) and she was moving on with someone else (Then you moved on and I can’t carry on). Mila still had some hope (I want closure. Tell me it’s not over (it can’t be over, it can’t be over). Let me live in my fantasy where you still think of me), but the more time passed, the more she was little by little losing that hope. And we lastly arrive at Only Told the Moon. Last song (so far) that encompasses that chapter before they got back together.

In Only Told the Moon, as I started to explain to you, Mila told the moon everything that had happened from the breakup to the back then present, where her having hope and not giving up was rewarded (you’ll see later in the interpretation). That, in the reality happened at the end of December 2014/early January 2015 where we even saw the appearance of two rings 😏. I talked about it in a fairytale way and therefore not saying about the breakup but only about a fight in the 🗯️ - ɟ post: [Right click on the pic and go to ‘open image in a new tab’. Go to the tab that has just opened, and click on the image with the magnifying glass with the + sign in it to see and read everything better]

So that breakup lasted for about a month and a couple of weeks. Now I can go back to my Only Told the Moon ’s interpretation.

So. Brief summary. In the first verse, Camila was like: “So, my friend (moon), it all started like this…”. (Stay back) she broke up with her. She regretted it and wanted her back with her for good (stay long), but (And you“?”, move on) Laur was moving on [Sure, Jan 🤣]. When Mila found out (Move on“?”), she started thinking by emphasizing/repeating (I stress) in her head over and over again how much she wanted her close/back (come close) because, of course, she didn’t want Lo to move on (please don’t). And in the first pre-chorus, Camila began explaining to the moon the things that had happened in the period after the breakup. Mila by still talking to the moon: “People asked me how I was (people: Hello, how are you? How you’ve been?), but before answering them (Mila: Nothing much, just fine, I’m doing well), I was attacked by thoughts about Lauren (Mila, to herself: Lately I wonder how it feels to steal your kiss). And you can imagine my answer was bullshit because, God, I fell in love with her and I feel terrible without her” (Mila: And you can read between the lines but God, I fell).

All very trippy so far, huh? 🤯😏 I know, I know, and we’re not even done yet 🤣. And by the way, how many times have I said that Camila is a fucking genius? Because she is! She’s fucking brilliant!! 😍

Chorus 1:

“I only told the moon, tonight up on the roof

I told her that I’m scared that all my thoughts they look like you

I only told the moon, about the way you move

I asked her to please tell me if you tell things to her too”

I told her. HER: the moon. For those who don’t know, Mila refers to the moon as ‘she/her’ because in Spanish, as well as in Italian, moon is preceded by the feminine definite article, ‘la’. It says ‘la luna’ in Spanish as well as in Italian. In English, however, the article is always the same, ‘the’. It wasn’t difficult for me to understand it at the time, and no, not because for a couple of years now there has been the fashion to use the she/her for every object even when it actually has the masculine definite article as most part of native English speakers do to be cooler (they’re really really funny to me when they do it, by the way 🤣) precisely because they don’t know the difference because of the ‘the’. Nope. It wasn’t difficult for me to understand it at the time, precisely because I’m Italian. But anyway. Let’s go back to the interpretation.

There’s another little game here. For this time, it’s just a change of referent. If in the first verse and in the first pre-chorus Mila was talking directly to the moon, in the first chorus she was talking to Laur instead. But in reality, she wasn’t really talking to her. It’s as if she were imagining doing it. Lauren wasn’t really there, but Camila imagined that she was. She acted by speaking in the same way that she’d have spoken for real to Laur if Lo had really been there with her.

How come I think Camila was talking to her own imaginative creation of Laur and not Lauren herself? Because n°1, Camren weren’t on good terms at the time as we understood in the first verse, aka they didn’t talk to each other. N°2, as I said before, this whole song is a confession Mila made to the moon. And n°3, Mila herself asked the moon to tell her if Laur was thinking of her too in the last sentence of the first chorus. If Mila was really talking to Laur, she wouldn’t have asked the moon to give her her news. Ergo, Laur wasn’t there and Mila was just imagining talking to her.

Mila explained to Lo, aka her imaginative creation of Laur, about how she talked to her, to the moon. How she confided in her. How she told her secrets. Secrets she was comfortable revealing only to her: I only told the moon, tonight up on the roof. Secrets that, as in this case, represented her fear of not being able to think of anything other than her (Lo): I told her that I’m scared that all my thoughts they look like you.

I only told the moon, about the way you move. About the way you move… Ahem-ahem 🤭. I mean, if THAT doesn’t prove she was talking about a girl, I don’t know what would 🤣. Yeah, the song is enigmatic, and Mila tried to confuse the ideas for anyone who listened to it, but this is the only part of the whole song where it’s clear as day that she was talking about a girl. Her girl. And we know that she’s talked about it too before. Two examples that come to my mind now are OMG: “When she drop it bounce back like a yo-yo”, and Crown: “The way you move is serpentine”.

I asked her to please tell me if you tell things to her too. As I mentioned earlier, Mila asked the moon to tell her if Laur was talking about things with her too. She wanted to know if also Lo was telling the moon that she thought of Mila too.

We have three subjects here: I, me: Camila – Her: moon – You: Lauren. I (Mila) asked her (the moon) to please tell me (Mila) if you (Laur) tell things to her (the moon) too.

So basically, throughout the first chorus, Mila (I, me) imagined talking to Lo (you) about what she’d confessed to the moon (her) about her feelings for Laur herself.

BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP *sound effect*

If you made it this far without a headache, congratulations!!!! 👏🏼🙌🏼🥳

Now take a deep breath and rest your brain for a moment because I’m probably about to give you one 😇😁👍🏼😉

BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP *sound effect*

Verse 2:

“Silence. Too loud

Say it, not now”

This is exactly the same thing we saw in the first verse. The same little game of missing pieces of a sentence. The problem with this one, was that it was even more difficult to decipher. It was the most complex part for me to code at the time. Why? Because not only do we find here the connection with everything I’ve explained so far, but even with a part of the second chorus. But let’s go in order.

We know that Mila suffers from OCD. This is a topic I’ve talked about in many of my posts and I need to do it one more time. OCD leads to having intrusive thoughts. You can’t control them even if you want to, and that, leads those thoughts to be continuous. So continuous, that they lead you to obsession, which in turn leads you to act in a way that is too impulsive, compulsive, just to try to distract yourself and not always think about the same thing [obsession and compulsive, two things that we find in the word itself: obsessive-compulsive disorder, OCD]. That, leads you in turn to anxiety because the fear of not being able to stop those thoughts takes over. Now, doesn’t that ring a bell? Don’t you recognize those same words said in the song? No? I’ll give you a hand: “I only told the moon, tonight up on the roof - I told her that I’m scared that all my thoughts they look like you”.

Explanation I’ve now given on the OCD: That, leads you in turn to anxiety because the fear of not being able to stop those thoughts takes over.

Explanation I gave in the first chorus: Mila explained to Lo, aka her imaginative creation of Laur, about how she talked to her, to the moon. How she confided in her. How she told her secrets. Secrets she was comfortable revealing only to her: I only told the moon, tonight up on the roof. Secrets that, as in this case, represented her fear of not being able to think of anything other than her (Lo): I told her that I’m scared that all my thoughts they look like you.

Yeeep. I didn’t explain this in the first chorus because I needed this connection right now because of what I’m about to explain. But before doing that, I’d also like to add how we’ve seen those intrusive, repetitive thoughts about Lo in two other parts as well: 1) I stress, when she started thinking by emphasizing/repeating in her head over and over again how much she wanted her back, and 2) Lately I wonder how it feels to steal your kiss, when her mind spaced out on Laur instead of immediately answering the questions Hello, how are you? How you’ve been?.

Now. By Silence. Too loud, Mila referred to the intrusive thoughts of her OCD. The “Little voices in my head” that we also find in Consequences, you know? And as I said in that interpretation (in the penultimate ask): “By “Little voices in my head” she was referring to the intrusive thoughts of her OCD. Have you ever noticed that when we read, when we write, and when we think, it’s our own voice the one we hear in our head? Well, it’s the same thing that happens with OCD, and Mila was listening to intrusive thoughts whispering to her, or talking to her, or even screaming to her in her mental voice just as it would happen to all of us with any other thought.”

So, again, Silence. Too loud. There was silence outside. Even between them. Another thing that makes us understand they weren’t talking to each other. But in her head? There were those Little voices that were too loud. In this case (because we’re talking about the song and not Mila and OCD in a generic way), they were all about “Lauren, Lauren, Lauren”. Also because, as you’ve seen, Mila herself only told the moon that she was scared that all her thoughts they looked like Lo.

Say it, not now. Still in this case, imagine as if Mila and those Little voices in her head were having a conversation with each other. In reality, Mila was having an internal conversation with herself, but imagine that as Pinocchio with her conscience, aka Jiminy Cricket. The voices were telling her: “Talk to her. Take her back. Tell her you miss her. Tell her you fell in love with her. Tell her how you feel instead of only talking to the moon about it. Tell her how you feel instead of only imagining doing it (as we saw in the first chorus). Say it to her for real. Take the courage and do it!”. By shitting in her pants just at the idea, Mila answered: “Not now. Later on in time, sure, but not now. I’m not ready yet”.

So. I’ve explained to you the connection that there is in the second verse with everything I’ve already explained so far. But, before explaining the part that for me was the most complex to decipher, which is the connection between the second verse and a part of the second chorus, let’s move on to the second pre-chorus. As I said before, let’s go in order.

Pre-Chorus 2:

“So, how are you? How you’ve been?

Lately I wonder how it feels to taste your lips

Nothing much, just fine, I’m doing well

And you can read between the lines but God, I fell”

The second pre-chorus and the first are the same. They don’t have different meanings, but we do find two differences here: the replacement of Hello with So before the questions, and the replacement of steal your kiss with taste your lips.

The two differences don’t change the meaning of the second pre-chorus per se. They’re just indicators of the time that was passing. Mila was still telling and confessing everything to the moon except for the last part in which she referred directly to her. And if first she wondered how it would feel to steal Laur’s kiss, then she wondered how it would feel to taste Laur’s lips. First indicator of the time that was passing.

The second one, which is the replacement of Hello with So before the questions, makes us understand how also other people different from the first ones were asking her those questions. Nothing wrong with that. I mean, as I explained earlier, they’re spontaneous courtesy questions you ask people you know when you see them. Like for example when you and a friend meet for a coffee. Once the two of you have hugged to greet each other, and once you’ve sat down at a table, one of you usually starts the conversation precisely in that way: So, how are you? How you’ve been?

Chorus 2:

“I only told the moon, tonight up on the roof

I told her that I’m scared that all my thoughts they look like you

I only told the moon, about the way you move

I asked her to please tell me if you tell things to her too”

So far, it’s all the same as the first chorus. Immediately after, however, we find an addition that distinguishes them:

“That I give it all to you, I give it all to you, I give it all to you

I only told the moon”

Now I can finally explain to you the connection between the second verse and a part of the second chorus. THIS part of the second chorus.

The first chorus ends with I asked her to please tell me if you tell things to her too. If you combine it with the part following that, which we find here in the second chorus, we get: I asked her to please tell me if you tell things to her too that I give it all to you. And tell me honestly, does that make sense? Nope. It makes no sense. So I told myself that it had to be yet another game. I thought, what if that part (That I give it all to you, I give it all to you, I give it all to you - I only told the moon) has nothing to do with the parts of the choruses that are the same? What if it had another connection with something else here in the song? Well, why the hell not 🤷🏻‍♀️.­­ And that’s how I found it 😏. That’s how I understood that this part of the second chorus had the connection with the second verse.

Small summary of the second verse to make you understand better: Silence. Too loud. Say it, not now. There was silence outside, but in Mila’s head, there were those too loud Little voices she was having a conversation with.

It’s in that conversation that we need to add the second chorus part. And now, that conversation becomes:

Voices: “Talk to her. Take her back. Tell her you miss her. Tell her you fell in love with her. Tell her you give it all to her. All your love. All of yourself because she means the world to you. Tell her how you feel instead of only talking to the moon about it. Tell her how you feel instead of only imagining doing it (as we saw in the first chorus). Say it to her for real. Take the courage and do it!”. By shitting in her pants just at the idea, Mila answered: “Not now. Later on in time, sure, but not now. I’m not ready yet”.

So what are the new key points of the connection? These one: Tell her you give it all to her. All your love. All of yourself because she means the world to you. Tell her how you feel instead of only talking to the moon about it. Tell her how you feel instead of only imagining doing it. Say it to her for real.

“Tell her you give it all to her. All your love. All of yourself because she means the world to you” is actually That I give it all to you.

“Tell her how you feel instead of only talking to the moon about it” is because that’s what Mila did, aka I only told the moon which we find in both choruses.

“Tell her how you feel instead of only imagining doing it (as we saw in the first chorus)”. And what did we see in the first chorus? That Mila was imagining talking to Lo about what she’d confessed to the moon about her feelings for Laur herself.  

“Say it to her for real” But say what to her for real? Answer: “Tell her you miss her. Tell her you fell in love with her. Tell her you give it all to her. All your love. All of yourself because she means the world to you. Tell her how you feel instead of only talking to the moon about it. Tell her how you feel instead of only imagining doing it. …… Take the courage and do it!”. By shitting in her pants just at the idea, Mila answered: “Not now. Later on in time, sure, but not now. I’m not ready yet”.

😎😎😎😎😎😎😎

Basically, the connection between the second verse and a part of the second chorus, is an addition to what the Little voices Mila was having a conversation with told her. The game we find in ‘That I give it all to you, I give it all to you, I give it all to you - I only told the moon’, is that this sentence should be read backwards. I only told the moon that I give it all to you. It’s as simple as that. The Little voices, aka Mila herself, told her to tell Lo all the things I’ve listed, with the addition that we find here that she gives it all to her, instead of only telling the moon or just imagining doing it. 😏

Bridge:

“Ah-ah ah-ah ah-aaah

Ah-ah ah-ah ah-aaah”

😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

Mila angelically sings this part twice by switching from the lowest to the highest vocal range. There’s actually nothing to interpret here. It’s just something I wanted to include because she gave me goosebumps the first few times I listened to it. That’s all 🤷🏻‍♀️🙃.

“Uuuh-And another love song, will play on the radio, you know”

A love song, aka yet another thing that would’ve made her think about Lo. Here Mila was again imagining talking to Lo as I explained to you in the first chorus. ‘you know’, YOU, Lauren. I explained this to you guys when I told you about the subjects, remember?

“Ah-ah ah-ah ah-aaah

Ah-ah ah-ah ah-aaah

Uuh-And I’ll wait for the moon to lean in close, and say”

Why did the moon have to lean in close to tell her something? Think about that for a moment. When is it that you lean in close to someone in that way? When you want to whisper something, habitually either very close to their face so they can hear, or in their ear. It’s usually something that no one else can hear. A secret. Basically, it’s a metaphor Mila used because their story was secret. Especially in the beginning, very few people knew about them, and if that’s why, their entire story has always been and still is a secret to the world. And I’m talking in a general way of course, not about people who know them.

So it was like: And another love song will play on the radio that will make me think about you, you know, Lauren? And, in the meantime, I’ll wait for the moon to lean in close as if it were a secret because no one knew, and say:

Chorus 3:

“That he only told the moon, tonight up on the roof”

AAAAAnd we have the entry of a fourth subject. At first glance, it might have seemed that Mila was referring to a guy for obvious reasons. At the time, I initially thought that was the one Lo was moving on with, but then I reflected and said to myself: “Naaah. Why on earth would this guy have had to confess to the moon the same things as Mila if he already had the girl (Laur)? Her girl! Not to mention the fact that this guy should’ve seen the moon as a friend and have the same kind of love for her that Mila has. Pfffffft!! Come on! It would’ve been an all too huge coincidence!!! No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Nope. This is just another game. Think, Fa, think. Who is this he?”. I looked at the lyrics again and answered to myself right after: the sun. Remember the explanation I gave you in the first chorus about the ‘she/her’ for the moon? It’s the same thing. Here Mila referred to the sun with ‘he’ because in Spanish, as well as in Italian, the sun is preceded by the masculine definite article. ‘El sol’ in Spanish, and ‘il sole’ in Italian.

So I understood that it was the sun, BUT, and yes, there’s a but, he only told the moon is a game within a game. A double game. In their story, Camila is the moon and Lauren is the sun. Mila herself said that she personifies the sun and the moon a lot as people and that she identifies herself to the moon. I explained everything in an ask of my Inauguration post as you can see here: [Same thing as before. Right click on the pic and go to ‘open image in a new tab’. Go to the tab that has just opened, and click on the image with the magnifying glass with the + sign in it to see and read everything better]

As I also said in that post, the personification in their story is: Camila: moon. Lauren: sun. The sun and the moon love each other, as do Laur and Mila. Now look at this:

“i have late night conversations with the moon. she tells me about the sun, and i tell her about you”: i (Mila) have late night conversations with the moon. she (moon) tells me about the sun, and i (Mila) tell her about you (Laur). It’s exactly the same method she used here in the song!

“That he only told the moon, tonight up on the roof”. So in this case, Mila personified the sun. He: sun, aka Lauren. That he only told the moon, tonight up on the roof: That Lauren only told the moon, tonight up on the roof. Her sun only told the moon.

“He told me that he’s scared that all his thoughts they look like you”

Remember earlier that Mila said she was waiting for the moon to lean in close one day to tell her that? [I said one day because Mila used the future: I’ll wait for the moon to lean in close. Meaning: it hadn’t happened yet. She was still just hoping for it]. This means that it was the moon that was talking here. He told me that he’s scared that all his thoughts they look like you: He (the sun, Lauren) told me (the moon) that he’s (Lauren’s) scared that all his (Lauren’s) thoughts they look like you (Camila).

I know that many understood that that he was the sun. I also know that many thought it was the actual sun that was talking to the moon. I know they thought that Mila talked to the moon, Laur to the sun, and that the moon and sun talked to each other by then exchanging that same information to the girls, but that’s not the case. I highly doubt the sun could be found talking to the moon tonight up on the roof. During a lunar eclipse (since they occur in the night)? More likely, but I doubt Mila implied that. Talking tonight up on the roof is a metaphor that indicates something that a person would do when alone and in secret because away from prying ears; meaning: a confession. In this case, as I’ve already told you, confession to whom? Only Told the Moon, aka the fulcrum of the entire song.

So the actual sun had nothing to do with it here and it was the moon that talked in the first person through Camila’s hope. Ergo, something that hadn’t really happened. Mila was waiting for the moon to one day tell her that Laur, and therefore her personification of the sun, had also gone ‘up on the roof’ one night to confide in her, the moon itself. Mila was waiting for the moon to one day lean in close to tell her what? That Laur, her sun, only told her, the moon, that she was scared that all her thoughts they looked like Mila.

Mila speaking: And I’ll (Camila) wait for the moon to lean in close and say [Say what?=] that he (the sun, Lauren) only told the moon, tonight up on the roof. Moon speaking: He (Lauren) told me (the moon) that he’s (Lauren’s) scared that all his (Lauren’s) thoughts they look like you (Camila).

Information passing: Camila was talking to the moon. Camila hoped that her sun (Lauren) would also talk to the moon. The moon was talking to Camila, and for Camila’s hope, also with Lauren, aka her sun.

“I only told the moon, about the way you move

I asked her to please tell me if you tell this to her too”

And back to Camila speaking again. I (Mila) asked her (moon) to please tell me (Mila) if you (Lo) tell this to her (moon) too. Different from I asked her to please tell me if you tell things to her too that we find in the first two choruses. The difference is that, if first Mila asked the moon to tell her if Laur talked about things with her too (if you tell things to her too: things in general), here she asked her to tell her specifically if Lo talked to her about Mila too. About the way Mila moves and if she was scared that all her thoughts they looked like Mila (if you tell this to her too: the exact same things Mila talked about with the moon).

Basically, Mila was hoping that sooner or later the moon would’ve told her in secret that Laur had also confided in her by telling her that all she did was think about Mila too.

Outro:

“That I give it all to you, I give it all to you, I give it all to you

We only told the moon

He, he, ha he, he, ha he

We only told the moon”

Well, well, well. Would you look at that 😏. Putting aside the connection between the second verse and a part of the second chorus that I’ve already explained to you, and the singing part that I added myself, what do we have here? Mila finally knew that Lo too had the same thoughts and the same fears as her. We only told the moon. Literally, it means they both only told the moon, buuut, what the hell is going on? Wasn’t Mila just hoping that Lo would also confide in the moon sooner or later until the third chorus? What had changed?

Their situation. Their situation had changed. They’d gotten back together and that’s why Mila knew and could say with certainty that they only told the moon. We only told the moon was simply another indicator of the time that had passed. The last indicator of the time that had passed! Lyrically speaking, Mila explains that they’d gotten back together and that for that reason, Laur told her that she’d confided in the moon too. The hope that her sun would also talk about her to the moon had become reality. WITH ONLY FIVE WORDS!! 🤯🤯🤯 MASTERMIND! SHE. IS. BRILLIANT.!!!!! 🔥

Remember that when I told you about XO (I Don’t Miss Ya), Cry for Me, Must Be Love, Used to This, and Closure, I told you that Only Told the Moon is the last song (so far) that encompasses that chapter before they got back together? Mila started writing it when she thought it was really over between them. When she thought she’d lost her for real. When her hope was fading more and more. This was the last song of acceptance and hope in getting back together with her before actually getting back together with her. And the following year, when she by then had already been back with her for some time, she finished it by being able to insert the happy ending as well. One of the best-hidden things in my opinion 🤩.

Mila used these riddles, these games with sentences, with the various meanings behind them, and, above all, with personal pronouns, with the sole purpose of trying to confuse the ideas for anyone who listened to the song; as I also told you in the first chorus. She only used four subjects in the song, but she twisted pronouns and meanings on purpose. For most of the song, there was: the moon, she/her – the sun, aka Lauren, he - Lauren, you - and lastly Camila herself, I/me. The amazing thing, is that she managed to perfectly confuse things. Like for example the fact that she used the you for Lauren in order not to make it clear that she was talking about a girl. For fear that people who wouldn’t understand that with she/her she meant the moon and not a girl, she also inserted the he, which however, in this case, was the sun aka Lo, and not a guy. A motherfucking genius, I told you! 😍😍😍 And all this at just 17 years old with no professional help from fucking anyone!!!!!! 🤩🤩🤩

Last thing before I go. Something that my baby @romanticentropy​ reminded me of because I was way too focused on seeing things in that year (2014). This beautiful song, also has a lil connection with another unreleased song that Mila wrote in 2018: Taxi. “We’ll tell the moon when we’re old. The greatest love story that’s never been told”.

That We’ll tell the moon when we’re old, is connected to this We only told the moon. This makes us understand that Camren only told the moon about them since 2014, they’ve continued and continue to do so now in the present, and will continue to tell the moon about their greatest love story that’s never been told even when they’re old. The little hope that Mila gave me is the fact that she didn’t insert the only there that time. So maybe, MAYBE they won’t tell their greatest love story only to the moon 😍🤞🏼🙏🏼. But 🤫🤐.

‍🤸🏻‍♀‍🤸🏻‍♀‍🤸🏻‍♀‍🤸🏻‍♀‍🤸🏻‍♀‍🤸🏻‍♀‍🤸🏻‍♀‍🤸🏻‍♀‍🤸🏻‍♀‍🤸🏻‍♀‍🤸🏻‍♀‍🤸🏻‍♀‍

Aaand that’s it 😉. This is my interpretation. The way I solved the riddles 🧐. I hope you liked it, and I hope I didn’t cause too many headaches 😅🤭🤣. See you next time 😘.

Remember to be nice. Always. Both with others and with yourselves. Be a good example. Be patient. Be safe and take care of yourselves. Don’t let our ship sink. Keep shipping them, but please respectfully 🙏🏼. Sending you virtual love and hugs 🤗🤗🤗. I love you, babies. Always with love, F ❤️.

P.S. happy valentine’s day to all of you, my babies 🌹🌹🌹 (it’s already past midnight here 🙃). But happy valentine’s day to you especially, baby 👭🏻💓 [@romanticentropy​]. It’s been exactly one year since we chatted for the very first time:

And tomorrow, the 15th, it will be exactly one year since I wrote this valentine’s post, 🌹 - ɟ, which, however, was posted the next day:

THAT was really the beginning 🤩🤩🤩. Soooo, happy anniversary, amore mio❣️💋💌💘💝💖💗💓💞💕💟💐🌹🌸🏵️🌺🌻🌼🌷🍾🥂🎇🎈🎉✨🎊🎀🎁👭🏻👩🏻‍❤️‍💋‍👩🏻 *even though our actual anniversary is still 5 days away 🤭*. I’m one lucky bish 😍.

[romanticentropy]

😍😍😍😍🤗🤗🤗🤗

Hi mi amor, mutuals and anons!!!

I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE Healing, thank you so much mi amor for sharing it with me ❤❤❤❤ I love you!!! 🥰

Hoping we'll have something new from the girls soon!!!

Sending a lot of hugs and love 🥰🥰🥰

PS: @fa-by my favorite insider non-insider 😍

Hello babies and dear Anons 👋🏼🤗. Not the ‘Q&A’ post yet, sorry 😅. I’m having computer issues and I think I’ll give it to a tech to fix it this week. In the meantime, I have a little surprise to make up for the wait 😎.

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Oh and, two things. First thing: before you ask me “how?”, remember (or for those of you who don’t know) that I already talked about this in my Unreleased songs - ɟ post. Second thing: this is a test for all of you. That’s all I’m gonna say about it for now. We’ll see if you pass it or not.

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There have been 4 “news” released lately. I was about to post everything myself here, but I noticed that some people out there have already done so, but, not with all 4 of them. These “news”, are 2 snippets and 2 unreleased songs. I’ll start with the ones that have been posted and that you can found on YouTube.

The first one, is the snippet of Meet Your Maker by Lauren Jauregui released on Jan 18, 2022. Will this song be part of LJ1? We’ll find out. For now, as I said, you can listen to it on YT. It was pointless for me to post it here if it’s already out there.

The second one, is a whole song titled No Boys Allowed by Fifth Harmony. It was released on Jan 29, 2022, and it was supposed to be part of Better Together. You can listen to this one on YT as well.

The third one, as I think you all know, is the snippet of Psychofreak by Camila Cabello released on Jan 28, 2022. It was immediately removed everywhere, but luckily for you, I have it 😜. And this, is part of the surprise. For all those who haven’t had time to listen to it, enjoy 🤗: https://a.tumblr.com/tumblr_r6i54lH8Bz1ykfr3qo1.mp3

And lastly, the fourth one. This is also a whole song and, unlike the others, this one hasn’t been posted. I think the reason is because the voice is distorted but I don’t care because I seriously love it 😍. I’m not kidding, I’m listening to it on a loop 🤩. But anyway. The song is titled Healing by Camila Cabello. It was released on Jan 8, 2022, and it was supposed to be part of The Hurting. The Healing. The Loving. (I mean, hellooo? It’s a title in the title 🤭). And this, my babies, is the other part of the surprise. Enjoy 😉: https://a.tumblr.com/tumblr_r6i50nojky1ykfr3qo1.mp3

My girl romanticentropy asked me why they discarded it from the album after listening to it when I sent it to her, and I told her that the answer lies in the song itself, especially in the chorus. I hope they’ll release the original version with her undistorted voice soon 🙏🏼.

And that’s it, babies. I hope you pass the test and I hope I made it up to you guys. I swear you’ll get the post as soon as I solve things with the computer. Oh and, get ready for what’s coming next because there’s always a reason behind unreleased song releases 😏. Until next time 😘.

Remember to be nice. Always. Both with others and with yourselves. Be a good example. Be patient. Be safe and take care of yourselves. Don’t let our ship sink. Keep shipping them, but please respectfully 🙏🏼. Sending you virtual love and hugs 🤗🤗🤗. I love you, babies. Always with love, F ❤️.

[romanticentropy]

Awwwwwww these anons are so cute!!! We all love you, mi amor 😍

Faby, are you ok? I Hope your healthy

Hello, my dear 👋🏼😁. Yes, I'm okay, and healthier than before but not 100% good yet. I'd say 90% 🤔🤷🏻‍♀️. This shit has been going on for nearly three months by now, but don't worry, it's nothing major (and no, it's not covid related if that's what you thought 😉).

I think you sent me this ask because I disappeared more than usual. I took some time for myself. A vacation since Christmas. I will answer all the asks in my inbox as always, my dear Anon, don't worry 😉. I'll probably start writing the post over the weekend.

Hope you're healthy and having a good day 😊.

Oh and, happy new year, my dear 🤗.

[romanticentropy]

Goodnight to my beautiful girlfriend 😍 and to you, beautiful person reading this 🤗 Merry Christmas to all of you who celebrate it, and Happy Holidays to all!! 🎉✨

I’m sorry I took forever to write 🥺 I wrote down almost everything like a week ago, having my desktop screen split half for the original post and half for my currently editing post. When the Tumblr web application enters the responsive mode (because I shrunk the screen to half the size), it always activates the new beta editor, even if you (like me) had originally enabled the old editor. But when you resize the screen, the old editor is allowed and then the editor component refreshes (because it detects the window size change) to display the old editor, with the effect that everything you edited and did not save as draft, went down the drain. This is what happened to me. I was incredibly upset with Tumblr and filed a bug report and even suggested them a couple ways to solve the issue. I’m sorry again, mi amor 🥺

So, here's my two cents 😊:

It’s because I answer all of them together in one post. I’m sorry 🥺.

Guys, she puts a lot of time and effort into these posts, she takes each and every one of you very seriously and takes the time to understand you and to answer as complete and clear as she can, I can vouch for that. Good quality takes time 😉

🤣🤣🤣 I love your enthusiasm and thank you very much, my dear Anon 🥰. We’re really happy about that too and we’re looking forward to it 😍. About your question, no, dear, I’m sorry. Not one where our faces can be seen anyway.

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww 😍😍😍😍 you're cute, Anon!! Thank you!!! But as my girl said, we're not posting our faces anywhere around here. Maybe a little memento of our reunion, that yes 🥰 I can't wait to be with my baby!!! 😍

In fact, if anyone knows some good ones (although I think I’ve read them all already 🤣), please, write them in the comments because I’d love to read some new ones during the holidays 😊

This is my "Read and loved" Wattpad reading list: https://www.wattpad.com/list/992530174-read-and-loved?utm_source=web&utm_medium=twitter&utm_content=share_readinglist

(and because I’m in love with Hope aka Danielle 🤤😍 *sorry, baby, but you already know this; I love you 😘*)

(I'd copypaste it many times but it'd take up a lot of space ¬¬)

but I guess Sofi coined Kaki when she was a baby 😍, and the nickname has then remained

😍 Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww Kaki 😍😍😍

Contrary to normal things or things about my life 😅, I remember everything about them 🤭🤣

🤣🤣🤣 this is 100% true, if it's about Camren, she always remembers!!! 🤣

Regarding your ask, my dear, the answer is found in the pics themselves. What does the mirror in the second picture reflects beside the breathtaking queen? A door. And what does the mirror in the first one reflects? A wall.

I mean, they could be two different bathrooms from the same house! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 (I wish! 🤣)

Yeah. I’d like to underline the “our team”. Case closed, let’s move on.

For example, the picture above is an announcement of her main social media team taking a vacation 🤣

We don’t care if we believe in different things. The important thing is to be together to have fun, to eat really really a lot (even the table 🤣; that’s a way of saying of course), to play games, exchange gifts, and I mean, to spend a wonderful time together. I don’t know if the reason you’re not celebrating is religious or for other reasons, my dear, but if you’re going to have vacation days, then I hope you’ll enjoy those 🥰.

Awwww yes! This is the important thing. I wish you all have this on these days 🥰

Camila took Eugene Fitzherbert in August 2019 before the VMAs that took place on the 26th in NYC.

🤣😍 I love that she chose that name for Eugene!!

Oh and, yeah, I think the dogs all get along well because they’ve been used to being with other dogs since they were puppies.

🤣 she even knows the trails of the dogs; I am no crazy to say she’s the Camren Archives!! 🤣 Also, the dogs surely give them away, they don’t always cooperate with the PR, like in:

By the way, you made me laugh really a lot with “insert that hilarious pr stunt vid with all the dogs” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. And yeah, her dogs may seem a little crazy as you say, but that’s because they don’t recognize Mila as their owner. In this case, I’m speaking as a dog owner myself. Dogs choose their owner.

You mean this one? 🤣

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[I’m not physically spending it with my girlfriend because we live 11,369 km away 🥺😭🤧, but we’re spending it together thanks to the video calls and the gifts we’ve sent to each other 😍🥰. Maybe next year 🤞🏼]

Awwwwww thank you, anon! Super late Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! 💖

We are indeed spending these days as together as we can and we treasure every little moment we can videocall, see each other, hear each other. We’re hoping we can meet this year 🤞🏼 We’re doing everything we can so that hope concretes!!

I speak for myself of course, but I could never imagine my life without my baby girl 😍

She’s so incredibly cute with her dog, guys!! 😍 They love each other so much!!

That tweet was my birthday present. She asked me what I wanted as a gift for my 30th birthday, and I asked her to tweet something related to Mila, and bam, she did it with this 😍

I read that and for a few seconds I was like WHAT????? YOU TWEETED LAUREN? LAUREN TWEETED YOU?!!! BUT YOU DON’T EVEN HAVE TWITTER!! 🤣 until I calmed down and read once more and started to function again 🤣

2) Now we’re serious only because you know more or less our relationship and that we’ll see each other? 🤣 Why didn’t you think we were serious before knowing all this? 🥺 - YOU’RE THE ONE WHO’S SWEET and thank you 🥰

☹️ I had thought a very good answer for this sweet Anon, but it got lost after Tumblr sabotaged me!! ☹️ First, thank you so much Anon!! You’re so cute, it softens me that you are happy about us 🥰 Then, of course we’re serious!! She’s my girl, my love 😍 We’re overcoming everything we have against us and keeping strong together ❤️

so I’ll copy and paste the list of the ones I watch and have watched since then

Just a few for you to have where to start 🤷 🤣 You came to ask to the right place, anon 🧐

My first piece of advice is, fuck what other people think and use it if that’s really what you feel. […] But my second piece of advice, especially if you want to avoid arguments, is to use queer or just curious instead of bicurious.

This is one thing I terribly dislike about our (LGBTQIA+) community. The strong hatred that comes from everyone feeling entitled to determine who can and who cannot belong to a given label. The importance given to labels, when we know ourselves that the majority of us have a really hard time finding out which group they belong to, and even more, knowing that it may not be the same during all of our lives. We never know what life can surprise us with. I understand that using labels is a way to summarize what groups of people we might feel attracted to, or how we identify ourselves, and it makes it easier saying one word than explaining the whole thing, in that sense, labels are very useful. But I disagree with this culture of cancelling or attacking people who use a term but are not 100% sure whether they belong to it or not. Especially because we never know who is behind the screen, and it could be young ones trying to understand what’s going on with them, or misinformed by the internet, or older people but confused because they haven’t gone through the process yet, or because they feel like the label they identify with changed, or a lot other cases where people don’t mean wrong by using a label that maybe isn’t exactly correct for them. It is always best to help, educate, inform, and always from a humble place, not in this arrogant fashion like we had coined the terms. I also don’t think using labels is bad, as I said, it’s a practical tool to communicate, but no need to bite anyone just because they’re confused about what term to use.

What I find infuriating is the use of LGBTQIA+ terms for bating, when there’s nothing LGBTQIA+ about whatever (or whoever) is being promoted. We’re good for putting our money on products or projects, but not good enough to be respected as equal and worthy members of the society, according to a lot of people. In this case I think we need to go out and defend our community from the use of the terms just for profit and without any real support whatsoever.

Rant mode OFF 🤣

Plus, have you seen all the joking digs, teasing, and laughs made with Zach and Dan during this interview with Lo? Of course they know 🤣

That is the best thing about Zach’s interviews!! He asks good questions, keeps the chat interesting, and always seems to hit the nail with certain comments, but always leaving the artist room to keep their façades up. I love his interviews!!

I know you weren’t talking to me but, girls like me, dear? What do you mean by that? And, my love (romanticentropy 😍)? That last part is for you 💖.

Jijijijiji thank you, mi amor 🥰

Awwwww it’s okay Anon, you’re super sweet, don’t worry. I understand not even knowing how to flirt (she can vouch for that 🤣), but don’t worry, when someone special crosses your path you’ll either grow the balls or they’ll find you 😉

I’m also super curious what you meant by girls like her, Anon 🤭 Why intimidated?

because that’s straight-up bullshit. Sometimes I don’t understand the people in this fandom. Do they all really have a short-term memory, or do they just enjoy misinforming people?

The fact that the lyrics represented Camren in a way, doesn’t mean that they ghostwritten it with Victoria.

Just wanted to highlight that. I mean, No Way will always be associated with Camren because it connects with their story but doesn’t mean they wrote any part of it. We can relate to a song, identify with it, or identify someone else with it, without us or them having written that. I don’t understand what’s the deal with these lyrics credits misinformation.

P.S. I’m better, my dear. Don’t worry and thanks for asking and for your concern 😊.

Awwwww all these anons worrying about you are so sweet 🥺

and Mila would’ve gone on tour

Stupid pandemic!!

[…] Macaque […] Tijuana […] Tymbal […] Matchbox […] Shaved […] Lubricant […] Senseless […]

🤣 I CAN’T , I JUST CAN’T!!!!!!!🤣

They got December covered thanks to I’ll Be Home for Christmas, and let’s say Mila’s second official single will be released in late January/early February. She’s even shot the music video for it already, and that means she’ll have plenty of time to promote it, do interviews, make appearances, and start re-promoting the album which oh so coincidentally will be ‘different’ from the initial project, when not a comma has been changed in reality. […] Besides that, I think they chose November to have a month off. In addition to the little appearances that Mila is making, they’re both free from interviews and free to relax until the ‘real’ work awaits them in January, so they’re finally both free to enjoy these holidays and spend their time with their families and friends without having to pretend anymore and divide their time between Miami and Toronto just for narrative purposes.

Faby the insider making an appearance 😎

I love your creativity, your sweetness and your kindness, mi amor @fa-by 💖 Thank you 💖

Have a good year everybody🥰 Big hug!!

Oh Oh Oh, Meeeerry Christmas everybody 🎅🏼🎅🏼🎅🏼

Hey babies and dear Anons 👋🏼🤭🤣. Sorry, I felt like Santa Faby for a moment 🤣🤣🤣. But anyway 🤣. Welcome to a new ‘Q&A’ post. Before starting, I’d like to wish Happy Holidays to all of you 😊. I hope you have nice holidays in the company of the people you love and that you have fun and relax 🥰. Have an amazing New Year start as well ❤. I wish you all a lot of happiness, peace of mind, and good health 😘. I also thank all of you in advance for your asks, and especially most of you because I was really surprisingly struck by your kindness and overwhelmed by your love 😍. Thank you with all my heart for the respect and the sweetness of many of you. Those are the types of asks that I answer with even more pleasure than I already normally do. So thank you. I love you guys 🤗.

I answered all the asks except the one on the analysis of a song (I don’t wanna spoil by saying which one is 😜) that you’re gonna have in the next Q&A post, my dear Anon. Forgive me but I didn’t have the time to do that and insert it with these ones. I’m sorry again 🙏🏼.

That said, enjoy🙃.

Hello, dear Anon 👋🏼😄. I’m sorry if it always takes me time to answer your guys’ asks 😅. It’s because I answer all of them together in one post. I’m sorry 🥺.

Hello again, dear Anon 👋🏼😄. I’m so glad you’re one of the few who prefer to protect them and not reveal things that could compromise them. It may sound strange to you, but I’m so proud of you 🤗. I’m so proud and happy when I find fellows CS who put their privacy and security first instead of putting them at risk just for clicks and likes 😒.

Don’t thank me, my dear. It’s always a pleasure for me to answer and help as I can 😊. Thank you for your kind words and I’m happy you liked it 🙃. A virtual hug and have a wonderful day 🥰.

🤣🤣🤣 I love your enthusiasm and thank you very much, my dear Anon 🥰. We’re really happy about that too and we’re looking forward to it 😍. About your question, no, dear, I’m sorry. Not one where our faces can be seen anyway. Maybe another type of picture, yeah, but not one with that exposure. We care about our privacy a lot 😊.

Hey to you, dear Anon 👋🏼😄.

*confusion 👓*, * re-read it 30 more times 🧐*, *more confusion 😵*

I’m sorry, my dear, believe me 😓, I really am 😓, but I don’t know what you mean. You didn’t write it. So, could you please explain to me what you think that line means so that I can understand it too and agree or not with you? I’m really sorry. Please don’t hate me 🙏🏼. I really tried to try to understand what you meant but even though I’d like to, I’m not a mind reader 😅😅😅.

Besides, when I talked about the line ‘My kisses are history, they go back a long time’, I was explaining how it wasn’t about Sandalwood as they wanted us to believe, since Shameless was completed a week before the rehearsal of the Señorita’s music video in June and that therefore nothing had happened between them until July 4, 2019, according to their own fake narrative. I’ve never been generic by saying something like “an ex relationship with”. In fact, I think I was pretty explicit in saying that Shameless is about Lauren, my dear 😊.

Hey to you, dear Anon 👋🏼😄. I’m sorry, dear, but it’s not over yet 😅. As for the ff to recommend to you, I don’t know because I haven’t read one since last year. The first one that comes to my mind right now is Checkmate. In fact, if anyone knows some good ones (although I think I’ve read them all already 🤣), please, write them in the comments because I’d love to read some new ones during the holidays 😊 (not the ones set in high school tho please 😁🙏🏼). Even on Hosie (Hope and Josie from Legacies) I’d be more than okay with that; also because it would be the first fanfic I’d read about them 🤩 (and because I’m in love with Hope aka Danielle 🤤😍 *sorry, baby, but you already know this; I love you 😘*).

As for T&T, if I’m not mistaken, I remember reading that camrensrealbish has it (if you’re not the one who has it, hon, I’m so sorry I tagged you for no reason 😅), so you could ask her, my dear.

Yes, dear Anon, especially during the mid-October 2015 breakup; the worst one they had in my opinion which also went arm-in-arm with the news (not yet public at the time) of Mila’s exit from the group and therefore the real beginning of the end of 5H.

“they did not speak to each other”, yes, many times, and we even witnessed that. “they blocked each other from their private social media” (and not), I honestly don’t think so because the indirects were their way of communication for a lot of years.

Hi to you, dear Anon 👋🏼😄, and of course I can explain it to you 🙃. It’s much simpler than it actually looks. Kaki is the really cute nickname derived from Camila’s first name: Karla. You know how babies who start talking come up with new terms because they mix the names of things and of the people when they’re learning? Well, they never told the story behind it, but I guess Sofi coined Kaki when she was a baby 😍, and the nickname has then remained.

Thank you a lot, my dear, for the nice words 🥰. You’re sweet 😊. Take care of yourself too 🤗.

Hi to you, dear Anon 👋🏼😄. Contrary to normal things or things about my life 😅, I remember everything about them 🤭🤣. And yes, my dear, of course I can help you 😊.

The post/reblog you’re referring to is this one posted on January 21, 2015:

Now that you can see it in full, I think it’s easier for you to understand that Laur was simply looking for reassurance. Their usual ‘take me back or let me let you go’ phase during which they found themselves in in those years. Basically, their usual back and forth/game/loop/cycle.

Hi to you too, zucker-stuff 👋🏼😄! This is the first time you’ve contacted me (unless you’ve done so anonymously in the past) so welcome into my inbox 🥳.

Regarding your ask, my dear, the answer is found in the pics themselves. What does the mirror in the second picture reflects beside the breathtaking queen? A door. And what does the mirror in the first one reflects? A wall. You can also understand how the door in the first pic is positioned perpendicularly in the point where the picture was taken. So, your implied question (🤭🤣😉) is no, dear, it’s not the same bathroom. Um, I’m sorry if you thought it was the same one? 😅

Thank you, my dear, by the way 🙈. That was really nice of you and made me very happy 😊. Come back whenever you want and have an amazing day 🤗.

Well, in addition to the NDA, there’s also the CDA (Confidential Disclosure Agreement), dear Anon. They’re basically the same thing. But by focusing more on the NDAs, they’re used as much as paper tissues. Mine was obviously a metaphor, but I’m not kidding. As I think you know, NDAs are also used in companies and in employment contracts of ordinary people, but in the various industries (the music one, the film one, the sports ones, the political world, etc., etc.)? They’re used to no end.

Celebrities themselves have to sign them for deals, meetings, negotiations, etc. Celebrities themselves have to sign them if they’re dealing with other celebrities even for non-formal meetings. Yes, you got it right. Many times, even just to friendly hang out or if for ex. they want to go out together one night.

Workers of any kind who deal with them must sign NDAs. So it doesn’t matter if directors, engineers, assistants, coaches, makeup artists, dancers, stylists, or ball pickers. It doesn’t matter their role or task. If they’re dealing with them for even just a day or sometimes even just a few hours, they must sign NDAs. Why? Because NDAs are meant to protect celebrities. Even if it’s only 5 minutes with the celebrity, you never know what might happen in those 5 minutes. The celebrity might, for example, receive a private phone call, or receive a gift from someone, or I don’t know, something that can’t get out of that room anyway. Celebrities themselves or their teams always have NDAs with them in their ‘pockets’ just in case, and no, I’m not kidding this time either. Understood now why the metaphor of the paper tissues? (🤭🤣😜)

NDAs can also be very customized. Like for example, the request to sign them? And yeah I’m talking about ordinary people too, it can happen before having romantic relationships with celebrities and other important/prominent people, or before or after one-night stands, or before or after drug use (together with them or just the celebrity). It depends on what has been included in the document, but it may require people to completely deny the existence of the celebrity involved, or the silence about everything they’ve seen and heard, or the silence only about certain information that are designated as confidential. There are agreements that if breached, can result in a 1 million dollars fine for each breach made, such as for ex.: the person witnessed 10 different things and signed the NDA. Of those 10 things, they disclose 3 by breaching the agreement. So their fine will be 3 million dollars.

As I said before, NDAs are meant to protect the celebrity, and therefore consequently, never the person who signs them. So basically, back to your questions, Mila herself or her team could also have paid them as a plus if they wanted to, but I don’t think there was any need for it. As you’ve seen, the NDA is more than enough per se, dear Anon.

1) Literally answered this in my last Q&A post (tenth question), so I’ll just copy part of that answer, dear Anon: “—but the reason she stopped using it, both of them actually, is because everyone knew what their account names were. They signed up when they weren’t famous yet, but even after that, it was a ‘private’ place (outside of being famous) for them in which to be themselves and express their feelings through re-blogs. It was no longer private by then and therefore they simply stopped using it.”

2) All 5 girls were required to provide the passwords of all their accounts already in the X-Factor era, so, yeah, their social networks were monitored since then. Although Tumblr less than the others tho because always considered less important [good for us 😏 ehm, ehm]. And, dear Anon? Not “by the manager”, but by their ex-team.

Not all celebrities because some of them handle it by themselves, but I’d say 90% of them have people who handle their social media. This person has a very specific role, and is called social media manager. They can be more than one, and therefore social media managers, or, the celebrity (or whoever makes the decisions for them) hires an actual communication and marketing agency to take care of it. In the case of the girls when they were still in the group, there were: the girls themselves behind them (they had much more freedom when they were minors for a legal matter), plus a specific team chosen by the labels which specifically took care of that, plus sometimes the management (so sometimes it could’ve been a manager, sometimes a publicist, sometimes an assistant, etc.). Everyone has always alternated, and everything has always been monitored. And before anything was published, it always had to be approved by the team first.

Now their situation has changed because they’re all solo artists, but the method behind their social media hasn’t changed for all of them. Speaking of just Camren, in Lauren’s case, she has more control since June 2019. It’s not always her all the time, but it is her most of the time. In Camila’s case, however, it hasn’t changed even a bit. She still has a special team chosen by the label (in the singular now) that deals specifically with that, plus sometimes the management (so sometimes Roger, sometimes Gian, sometimes Dvora, etc.), and a few times because of her own choice, Mila herself.

I honestly laugh every time people blame Roger because they’re convinced he’s the only one running it. It’s ridiculous how much in order to blame someone without knowing shit, they only blame him because they need a villain. They don’t know how things work or what really goes on behind the scenes, yet bam: let’s point the finger as many sheep who can’t think with their own brains against the one who’s easiest to blame just because someone once started this hate parade, shall we? 🤦🏻‍♀️. I mean, at least in this case, Roger himself proved that he’s not the only one running it, but what’s everyone focused on? Just on the very fact that it’s not always Mila herself who does it. Remember this?

Yeah. I’d like to underline the “our team”. Case closed, let’s move on.

3) Yeep 👏🏼. Not always, but yes. They’re called indirects for a reason, don’t you think, dear?

Hello, dear Anon 👋🏼😄. Yeah, I remember. It was a persistent, childish, and (sorry not sorry for saying this) stupid anon who sent her two asks (maybe even more, but Lo only posted two). The first one, posted on November 20, 2012:

And the second one,  posted on November 23, 2012, that is, the one you’re referring to:

1) The answer was 100% real and it was 100% Lauren. BUT, and yes, there’s a but, we don’t know if it was the truth. I’ll explain myself better, and this is also related to your 2) question.

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Before doing so, however, a little warning: for those who are prudish or who have other reasons that are religious or personal, please skip this ask directly. I’m going to be pretty blunt here and I won’t hold back, so I’d rather please 🙏🏼 you skip this if you have any problems with it, rather than then get complaints like those two times in the past. Okay? And thanks.

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As I said earlier, that ask was posted on November 23, 2012. This means Laur was still literally at X-Factor. And in turn, that means Camren hadn’t fucked yet. If that’s why, they hadn’t yet given their first real kiss (for me happened in the following month on New Year’s at Lo’s house), but only the playful one in the elevator.

Having said that, I have three options. One reason on why she would have lied, one that was born as the truth but which then became a lie, and one if it was the truth. Before telling you, however, I need to explain to you something else that I actually already talked about and for which I received complaints as I mentioned earlier.

Sex is seen in a very subjective way in queer relationships. Ask one girl, and her answer will be different when you ask another. For everyone, sex with a man is considered as such if there’s penetration, otherwise, it’s considered as only foreplay. But sex with another girl? Some girls consider having had sex when it was only oral. Other girls consider having had sex when there was only penetration. Other girls if it only happened through the clit. Others yet, consider it as such if it was all together and therefore a mix of everything. And there are those who say that for them it was only if they had orgasm/s.

So here, as you can see, we have to talk and above all think based on how a girl sees it, and we don’t know how Lauren considered it back then.

We know that before Camila, Lauren had already experimented with another girl: Lucy. Laur was 15, and as I explained in another ask in response to an Anon, that experimentation took place from late September 2011 to February 2012 (it could have happened in all those four months, or just in two, or just in one; I can’t know that). We also know that Laur was still super in denial, and as she herself said “I had homophobia deeply ingrained into my system”.

Having explained all this and by still keeping in mind that we don’t know how Lo saw it and how she considered having sex with a girl, I can tell you the three reasons mentioned earlier.

Reason on why she would have lied:

During that experimentation with Lucía, they had sex and Laur considered it as such, but since it was with a girl, she lied because n° 1, privacy. She’d never have told her personal business so publicly especially at the time that she’d by then become a public figure. And n° 2, the most important reason, because if she had told the truth and therefore if she had said that she was no longer a virgin, anyone else, including her family and her friends, would eventually have asked ‘with whom?’. She should have come out of the closet already since then because her friends, especially her best friends, knew it hadn’t happened with her ex-boyfriends. And precisely because of that, she certainly couldn’t even make up a guy, so she simply lied.

Reason that was born as truth but which then became a lie:

During that experimentation with Ludicrous, they had sex, but Laur didn’t consider it as such because it didn’t happen with a guy. It didn’t happen in the ‘straight’ way, you know? Still because she was in denial, she admitted it to herself only after years, and therefore when she answered that ask, in her mind, it was the truth. But only years later when she accepted herself, that truth turned into the real truth, which is that her answer to that ask had been a lie all along.

Reason if it was the truth:

During that experimentation with Luggage, Laur didn’t consider what they did as sex and therefore, automatically, it was the truth.

Now the connection with your 2) question. If that was the truth, and I believe it was, Laur considered sex what she had with Mila. As I’ve said so many other times, I truly believe Lauren experimented with Luckless. Maybe they only experimented with foreplay with orgasms without penetration and that’s why Laur didn’t consider it sex, while with Mila she did everything and therefore considered it as such thanks also to penetration. I don’t know this 🤷🏻‍♀️. I can only hypothesize. I could of course also be wrong but yeah, my dear. I personally believe that Mila was Laur’s first sexual time (and vice versa).

And that’s it. I hope you have a nice day too, my dear 😊.

Hey to you, dear Anon 👋🏼😄. I’m better 🙌🏼, thanks for asking. How you doin’? I hope well 😊.

My dear, genuine question here: Did we watch the same interview? 🤣

The two people she was referring to represent her two most important PRs: Ty and Lucy. If that’s why, that’s the reason why the choreography for Don’t Wanna Say was created in that way. To live up to her narrative of their love triangle. Plus, to also represent her bisexuality in general. And as for the meant, she used the past tense because n°1, still for the narrative, Sorry’s about one of those two PRs, and n°2, because she can’t use the present tense. Lauren is publicly single, so if she had used the present tense, both Zach and Dan, as well as eventually everyone else, would’ve bombarded her with questions about who is this person with whom she is in a relationship that means a lot to her.

So the genuine question remains, my dear, because it’s like we watched two different interviews. And you’re entitled to your opinion of course, but I also have another question if you don’t mind: it really took only two sentences said for narrative purposes to make you come to the conclusion that Camren are no longer together?

Hi to you, dear Anon 👋🏼😄. As you saw in the previous ask, that’s my take on this and the reason why I think it. Don’t thank me, my dear, because it’s a pleasure for me, and have a good day too 😊.

P.S. “i personally don’t think so, like at all”, I applaud you for not following the herd 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼. You’ll understand why I’m telling you this in the third to last ask; answer 4) where you’ll see another applause.

And I don’t know why they do it, dear Anon 🤷🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️. It’s like everyone suddenly forgets every time that Camren follow a script. I mean, it’s also a matter of logic and paying attention to what they say and the real meanings behind it, you know? And I think you know what I mean based on what you wrote. About your question, dear, I think the previous ask made you understand what I think. And for the rest, I really loved that interview. Especially all the joking digs 🤣. Laur’s really hilarious and I feel sorry when people don’t understand her sense of humor because she’s really funny 🥰.

Hello to you, dear Anon 👋🏼😄. I read it as soon as I got the email, so when you sent it. I celebrate all the holidays even though I’m an atheist actually. Christianity is predominant in Italy, so also my family, most of my relatives, and some friends. If that’s why, I grew up like that too, so I even have communion and confirmation. Being an atheist, I don’t celebrate the religious part of the holidays. In the case of Christmas for ex., I only celebrate the fact that it’s a holiday and that I’m surrounded by the people I love. We don’t care if we believe in different things. The important thing is to be together to have fun, to eat really really a lot (even the table 🤣; that’s a way of saying of course), to play games, exchange gifts, and I mean, to spend a wonderful time together. I don’t know if the reason you’re not celebrating is religious or for other reasons, my dear, but if you’re going to have vacation days, then I hope you’ll enjoy those 🥰.

Now about your questions.

1) Yes, they spent holidays together. Most of the times, they saw each other immediately afterward, such as for ex., dinner/lunch with the family, and then they saw each other at one or the other’s house, or went out directly. They also spent holidays all together at one or the other’s house, and yes, like you, I think they spent this Thanksgiving all together for the same reasons as you. & 2) yeah, she only posted one pic.

3) They don’t have a house together (yet). They have never had it so far because they don’t need it since Lo lives alone. & 4) Their dogs stay with their families. But going more in the specific:

Camila took Eugene Fitzherbert in August 2019 before the VMAs that took place on the 26th in NYC. This is the only reason why we saw Eugene with her in those videos, but then once he was brought home to Miami, he always stayed there. Tarzan was taken on November 3, 2020, in Miami during the pandemic for PR reasons. Unlike the others, and precisely because he was a PR dog until recently, he’s the only one who was constantly being moved for narrative reasons. All four (Leo, Thunder, Eugene, and Tarzan) (+ Ale’s parrot 🤣🥰) move from Miami to L.A. based on Alejandro. Sinu is always around with Mila (Sofi as well when she doesn’t have school), and when they have to stay in L.A. for a while, Ale joins them when he can according to his job by also bringing their little zoo with him.

Unlike Camila, Lauren had three dogs always with her. Leo, who she took to the Front Street Animal on May 14, 2017, when 5H went to Sacramento, and who then she had to give away because of the commitments and travels with the group and because she hadn’t considered how big he could’ve become. She couldn’t take good care of him, so she preferred to give him to family friends with two children in July of that same year. Gracie (Graciella), taken on September 20, 2018, for PR reasons, and who unfortunately and heartbreakingly passed away 🥺😭 a couple of days before Laur announced it on March 14, 2019. And Cleo (Cleopatra) who she still has, taken on January 20, 2019, for PR reasons as well. Same reason why Julio was also taken if that’s why (the one who Ty kept just one more month after their ‘breakup’ and then disappeared).

Laur lives alone contrary to Mila, and whenever she couldn’t take them with her, she always left them at her parents’ house with Dash, whom they took when Lo was 8 years old. So back to your question, the dogs stay with their families. At best, Laur’s the one who takes Cleo to the Cabellos when she doesn’t want to leave her at home, but I doubt that Mila takes her dogs when she goes to stay at Lo’s apartment. Oh and, yeah, I think the dogs all get along well because they’ve been used to being with other dogs since they were puppies.

By the way, you made me laugh really a lot with “insert that hilarious pr stunt vid with all the dogs” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. And yeah, her dogs may seem a little crazy as you say, but that’s because they don’t recognize Mila as their owner. In this case, I’m speaking as a dog owner myself. Dogs choose their owner. Their alpha. They have their favorite. They create a sort of list in their minds from the one that is their owner, to the one they’re least fond of but that they love anyway. Kind of like we humans do if you think about it 🤣. For example, in a family of three, they see only one as their pack leader, and it doesn’t matter if the other two members of the family spend the same amount of time with them or even more, they will always listen to the one they choose as their owner. They listen to some commands if they’re given by other people, yes, but it’s not the same thing, and they don’t listen to others at all if they’re, I don’t know, super excited or angry. And believe me, if there had been Ale during that hilarious video, none of that would have happened. If what happened during that video happened, it’s because none of them recognize Camila as their owner. Far less Shitto. 🤣 Let alone. For dogs, it’s a matter of leadership, respect, and loyalty. If you see dogs taking the lead when they’re out walking on a leash, it means they think of themselves as the leader because they don’t think that person is at the same level of power as their owner, and that also means that they don’t respect that person enough as they would do with their owner. It’s as simple as that 🤷🏻‍♀️🙃.

Don’t thank me, dear, because it’s a pleasure for me 🤗. In fact, thank you 🙈 thank you for the nice words, you’re really kind ❤, and I’m glad you liked it 🥰.

Hello to you, dear Anon 👋🏼😄. I’m better, dear, thanks for your concern 🤗. I hope you’re well and Merry Christmas to you too, my dear 🎄. [I’m not physically spending it with my girlfriend because we live 11,369 km away 🥺😭🤧, but we’re spending it together thanks to the video calls and the gifts we’ve sent to each other 😍🥰. Maybe next year 🤞🏼]

I still think Tarzan was adopted for PR purposes. It wouldn’t have been a problem for Mila to have another dog since she loves dogs. And she certainly doesn’t lack the space or the money to take care of him too, and that’s why she still has him and she chose his name, otherwise, Tarzan would’ve been given to someone else at the end of their charade. Or maybe you’re right in saying that she wanted another dog and that they also used him for PR purposes. I don’t know 🤷🏻‍♀️. I think this only because n°1, it seems strange to me that she already wanted another dog since she had taken Eugene just a year before and already had two others, and n°2, because they needed something that made them look even cozier. Like a small family, and a new dog (because they couldn’t use one of those she already had of course) was the best choice. Luckily, they’re not the kind of people who would’ve agreed to have a PR baby (not yet at least 😖 and I hope for them they never do 🤞🏼), so they’ve opted for another type of baby to make them look even more real in people’s eyes with this co-parenting thing. Failed miserably like all the rest of their PR by the way 🤣.

As for the fact that people think they were two different dogs, I personally don’t think so. I compared the pictures (and the videos) several times, and it has always been the same dog. One dog can also look like another one even just if it has shaggy fur that day. Dogs, like people, grow, but much faster, so it’s normal that they may look different, but they have features that make them recognizable. Speaking as a dog owner, I can assure you this. Same thing when it was with Gracie. The friend you’re referring to instead, is yogurt majesty tour manager, Cez Darke:

I don’t know if people saw this picture and thought he had the same dog, but this is him with baby Tarzan on November 27, 2020.

Why can’t you have one, my dear 🥺? I don’t know if you can’t have a dog because of space, money support, allergy (a real one tho 🤣), or maybe your parents don’t want to, but I hope someday you can make your wish come true because, having a dog is one of the most beautiful things that can ever happen to you in life. You are loved unconditionally, you have a best friend for life, you will never feel alone because they’re always there for you by helping you even in the darkest moments, and it’s literally life-changing 🥰! I speak for myself of course, but I could never imagine my life without my baby girl 😍. So, yeah, I really wish you that with all my heart, my dear ❤.

Hi to you, dear Anon 👋🏼😄. You want the truth, my dear? But please, don’t tell anyone because it’s a secret, so 🤫🤫🤐🤐. That tweet was my birthday present. She asked me what I wanted as a gift for my 30th birthday, and I asked her to tweet something related to Mila, and bam, she did it with this  😍:

I’M JOKING OF COURSE!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Not about the part that she tweeted that on my birthday because I really turned 30 on the 22nd, but about the fact that it was my birthday present 🤣. I mean, I wish, but no 🤣.

All kidding aside now, my thoughts about it are that that’s a line from one of her songs. She just teased the lyrics and I was like:

Even more so because it was my birthday 🤣! I literally had a smirk plastered on my face and I said to myself “Happy birthday to me 😏. Thanks, Lo 😉”.

I’m better, my dear, not good yet, but better 🙃. Thanks for your concern and for asking, and I really hope you’re well. You’re sweet 🥰. Yes, I’m enjoying the holidays, and I hope you are too 🤗. Merry Merry Merry Christmas to you too, my dear 🎄, you deserve it too 😘.

HI again, my dear Anon 👋🏼😄. I’ll answer everything in the same order you set the ask.

For what you said after the //: And maybe you’re right to say they don’t give a fuck, but what can I do? Be petty about it? Nah. Meanness would bring more meanness. Any form of hate only leads to more hate, and I don’t want any of that. Especially in my blog. I think you already know that I don’t approve of it and that I spread the exact opposite as best I can. And thanks for what you said 🙈. You’re super nice 🤗.

1) Oh, come on, dear 🤣. Just for that? You’re sweet 🥰. 2) Now we’re serious only because you know more or less our relationship and that we’ll see each other? 🤣 Why didn’t you think we were serious before knowing all this? 🥺 - YOU’RE THE ONE WHO’S SWEET and thank you 🥰. 3) and 4) Yeah 🤞🏼.

Now the answers to the new questions (and of course it’s okay with me 😉):

1) Yes, I do. I’ve been doing it since I was a teenager and I’ve never stopped. I don’t know what your genre is to recommend anything specific, so I’ll copy and paste the list of the ones I watch and have watched since then (not including cartoons and the classic ones they did on Disney Channel):

Game of Thrones, American Horror Story, The Vampire Diaries, The Originals, Legacies, Pretty Little Liars, Ravenswood, Pretty Little Liars: The Perfectionists, The 100, Orange is the New Black, Riverdale, Arrow, The Flash, Dc’s Legends of Tomorrow, Batwoman, Supergirl, Superman & Lois, Supernatural, Charmed (2018), Motherland: Fort Salem, The Wilds, Squid Game, Cruel Summer, Step Up: High Water, Orphan Black, Shameless, The Bold Type, Tell Me A Story, V Wars, 13 Reasons Why, Glee [Brittana forever ❤], Gossip Girl, Gossip Girl (2021), Smash, Once Upon a Time, Teen Wolf, Scream, Shadowhunters, Lost Girl, Hart of Dixie, 2 Brooke Girls, Suburgatory, The Secret Circle, Faking It [the one in which 5H appeared as guests star in the 2x06 by singing the cover ‘You Got It (The Right Stuff)’ by New Kids on the Block], Beauty and the Beast, The Carrie Diaries, Scream Queens, Beyond, Famous In Love, Penny Dreadful, The L Word, Moonlight, Dallas (2012), Instant Star, Covert Affairs, Chuck, Kyle XY, Wildfire, Smallville, Veronica Mars, One Tree Hill, Gilmore Girls, Nip/Tuck, Dawson’s Creek, and the one that made me fall in love with TV series: The O. C. 😍.

Whenever I update the list, I always have the doubt that I’ve forgotten some, so it’s not 100% complete. Oh and, these are the ones I used to watch every now and then but that I’ve never watched in full or in order of episodes: The Big Bang Theory, Sex and the City [I’ve watched the movies and The Carrie Diaries tho 🤭], Scrubs, Dr. House - Medical Division, Charmed (the original one), and Buffy The Vampire Slayer.

2) Thanks, dear, and I’m happy about it 😊. A lot of people find it offensive, yeah, but personally speaking, I don’t. It doesn’t seem like that, but bisexuality isn’t taken seriously by people. I already mentioned some reasons in the last post, but very often we’re discriminated against and represented with negative and completely wrong stereotypes by both straight people and people from the LGBTQIA+ community itself. Many still today refuse to recognize bisexuality as a specific sexual orientation, and there’s a lot of biphobia around. Reason why bisexual people are prone to higher rates of depression, anxiety, self-harm, and suicide. And bi teens have a higher incidence of suicidal thoughts and suicide attempts than gay and lesbian teens. All this, because they are consequences derived from the biphobia ingrained in other people.

Due to constant discriminations, biphobia or general homophobia, many bisexuals and many LGBTQIA+ people see the term bicurious as offensive. Also because as I told you before, bisexuality is not taken seriously by people, and therefore they (bisexuals and LGBTQIA+ people) see the term bi-curiosity as an injustice towards people who are truly bi. A bicurious person may turn out not to be bisexual but just to be straight or gay/lesbian, so people find it offensive and not fair because the term bicurious is derived from bisexuality: BI.

I also know that many bisexuals and many LGBTQIA+ people find it an offensive term because they see bi-curiosity as basically a temporary sexuality. They see it as just a justification that those people use. Like a temporary pass they use to experiment. As an ‘okay, they’re confused and want to try to have the confirmation’, ergo ‘they just want to use one of us, perhaps deluding them at the same time because they’ve played with their feelings’.

I understand the reasons why many are against the term. I understand them with my whole being because I’m bisexual too. But in my opinion, we’ve all gone through the confusion and insecurity phase before knowing for sure, and curiosity, in this case bi-curiosity, is exactly that phase. I don’t mind exactly for this. Again, I understand why many are against it, but at the same time, I believe that if a person wants to use ‘I’m bicurious’ because that’s what they feel at the moment, they can do it because only that same person can define themselves, and the others are nobody to tell them it’s wrong.

Now. I don’t know the reason behind your question, my dear. I don’t know if you’re asking me this because you used the term bicurious and someone told you it was offensive, or if you witnessed something like that, or if you read it somewhere. I told you, I don’t mind 🤷🏻‍♀️, but many do and take it seriously as an offense. My first piece of advice is, fuck what other people think and use it if that’s really what you feel. Don’t use it lightly or if you’re just kidding. Only do it if that’s what you really feel. But my second piece of advice, especially if you want to avoid arguments, is to use queer or just curious instead of bicurious. Don’t use a label that doesn’t belong to you yet. Don’t say phrases like ‘I’m confused and I think I’m bisexual’, or ‘I think I’m bicurious’. Say something like ‘I’m questioning my sexuality’ or ‘I think I’m queer’ or ‘I’m confused because I feel attracted to both genders’. You can’t go wrong and you don’t offend anyone in those ways 😉.

3) Oh yeah. 100%. Zach (and Dan too) has known them since 2015. Zach has been with them at parties and said it in the interview with Mila. Plus, have you seen all the joking digs, teasing, and laughs made with Zach and Dan during this interview with Lo? Of course they know 🤣. They know everything, especially about their PRs, and as you noticed too about Tympanum’s momentary forgetfulness 🤣, thing that has been really hilarious 🤣, Zach even tried to help her when her mind was only in Camiland 😍🤣🤣🤣. By the way, the music industry is small even if it doesn’t look like it, and everyone knows everything about everyone. So yeah. They know 100%.

4) Yes, of course she lied, my dear. I’ve already given my opinion about it in that previous ask as you’ve seen. Anyway, I honestly love what you said here: “I don’t think they broke up as many cs think just because someone pointed it out”. The just because someone pointed it out deserves a round of applause 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 because you’re right. I’ve seen this happen for years in this fandom. Someone gives their opinion on something, and everyone automatically thinks like the person who said it. They don’t think with their brains. They don’t question it. They simply follow like a herd of sheep. And I’m sorry. I’m sorry because they prefer to join the common thought rather than distinguishing themselves with their own. And it’s the same thing that happens with fake proofs or misinformation. People don’t go check if they’re real when someone puts them around. They just believe in it, and that’s how the spread of something completely wrong happens even more. Ugh! 🤦🏻‍♀️

Thank you for the support and for reporting them, my dear 🤗. I’m losing hope though because they aren’t taking action yet, and that’s honestly making me question again whether to create posts like that in the future 😔.

I’m much better now, my dear, but not 100% healthy yet 🙃. Thank you so much for your concern and for always being so kind in your asks ❤. I love you too and have a beautiful day too 😘.

I know you weren’t talking to me but, girls like me, dear? What do you mean by that? And, my love (romanticentropy 😍)? That last part is for you 💖.

Hi to you, dear Anon 👋🏼😄. You know what, dear? You did absolutely right to have doubts about whether or not to believe it because that’s straight-up bullshit. Sometimes I don’t understand the people in this fandom. Do they all really have a short-term memory, or do they just enjoy misinforming people?

Did they forget that the girls weren’t always allowed to write songs for the group? Have they forgotten how they were actually worked to the fucking bone to record songs written by others and how much they didn’t like that because they didn’t feel them authentic? Have they forgotten all the times that the 5 of them said it during and after the group? Have they forgotten that they’ve been treated like literal slaves for years? I can even give you the first three examples that come to my mind:

1) Interview with BUILD Series in August 2017. Right after Lo exposed the shit behind the scenes, Mani: “Songs that we were given.”  Laur: “Exactly! We weren’t even like, believing in those songs either, so.”

2) The New York Times article on Mila released in January 2018: “–she had asked to help write lyrics for Fifth Harmony songs and was rebuffed. /// Mila: “I was just curious and I wanted to learn and I saw all these people around me making music, writing songs and being so free. I just wanted to do that and it did not work.”

3) Very recent interview with Zach Sang. Laur: “A lot of what happened to us wasn’t even us. It was-”   Zack: “Oh, totally.”   Laur: “-all of the pieces around us.”   Zack: “That you really had no control over(?)”   Laur: “Absolutely none.”

No Way was both produced and written ENTIRELY and ONLY by Victoria Monét in 2014. The only songs the girls had a chance to co-write with other songwriters for their albums were:

- Me & My Girls, Don’t Wanna Dance Alone, and Who Are You for Better Together (+ even the unreleased one: Drown on Solid Ground).

- All in My Head (Flex) for 7/27.

- And for the self-titled album: Sauced Up: Arlen - Make You Mad: Normally - Lonely Night: Norminah - Messy: Normally - Bridget: Alren.

That’s all. Periodt. Do those people really believe that with all the restrictions they had, Camren could have ghostwritten something when all five of them couldn’t even officially write? 🤣 This is hilarious 🤣🤣. Not even the chosen one alone had that chance. If that’s why, she got the chance to be in studios and officially create something only afterward, which was in December 2016 when she started the process for ‘The Hurting. The Healing. The Loving.’ with Frank Dukes (executive producer of her album Camila). Because, the only other permits she had? They were granted to her only for collaborations (I Know What You Did Last Summer, Bad Things, Know No Better, and other unreleased ones with Diplo). So what the hell are they talking about? 🤣🤦🏻‍♀️

Did the girls feel a particular attachment to No Way? Of course, but not just Lauren. All five of them! Have they forgotten how Ally cried the first time they sang it live? How all five fought for having it in 7/27 and how especially Dinah and Laur did it? It was Lo’s favorite for sure, and the other girls each had their own favorite, but it meant a lot to all of them. The fact that the lyrics represented Camren in a way, doesn’t mean that they ghostwritten it with Victoria. The fact that Laur cried during it thus giving even more emotional attachment to the song in the eyes of us fans, doesn’t mean that she and Camila contributed to the lyrics. It doesn’t even mean the other bullshit I saw myself years ago, which was that Victoria wrote it for the two of them and based on the two of them. Like, no. Hell no.

Victoria is an amazing artist. She’s an amazing producer and even more, an amazing songwriter. The fact that these people want to shift the credits of her own creation, written and based on her personal life because yes, Victoria Monét is fucking bisexual, just to make their own fantasies real and validate, IS WRONG! It’s so damn wrong and unfair to her. I can understand who consider No Way ‘a Camren song’ for obvious reasons. I mean, I myself can’t help but think of them when I listen to it. But I can’t and I refuse to understand when someone’s imagination is spread around as the truth by consequently discriminating against someone else’s work, in this case Victoria’s. It’s just not fair to her, her hard work, and her personal story behind the song.

As I said before, I really don’t understand these people. Don’t they understand that spreading fake pieces of information just because they want it to be true doesn’t make it true, but it makes them and consequently all the rest of the CS delusionals? Do they like being called delusionals? Because I hate it. Because I’m not. I hate it mostly because there are billions of proofs that prove Camren, but with their bullshit, they make even the real proofs pass off as bullshit. Can’t they see it? And I hate being categorized as delusional just because those people make all of us, and therefore even those who aren’t, consequently so.

News flash for all those who like to spread this bullshit: that behavior, helps the narratives. That behavior, doesn’t make you real fans. It just makes you unreliable assholes. Sorry not sorry.

P.S. I’m better, my dear. Don’t worry and thanks for asking and for your concern 😊. Hope you’re well and have a good day 🤗.

Hey to you, dear Anon 👋🏼😄. I’m better, thanks for asking, and I hope everything’s going well for you too, bud 🥰.

So. In my opinion, they chose November for a few reasons, and when I say they chose, I mean when they changed the dates because of covid. Keep in mind that these things are always decided beforehand. Before telling you the reasons, however, I’d like to first explain the time frame of what in my opinion was decided at the beginning; the initial contract.

Their ‘story’ began on July 4, 2019. If this pandemic hadn’t happened, they wouldn’t have postponed the release of Cinderella (which was originally supposed to be released on February 5, 2021), yogurt majesty would’ve released the original documentary (he himself said that it was a different one last year and that they had to cut many parts to make room for the new ones created after his tour dedicated then to his album; reason why the documentary was based on the creation of Wonder and no longer on his life on tour) and Mila would’ve gone on tour. The Romance Tour was supposed to start on May 26, 2020, and finish on September 26, 2020.

Now, do you remember the bullshit about their break that lasted from August 13, 2020 (when the news came out thanks to that oh so casually ‘source’ who claimed they were in crisis) to October 2020 (when oh so coincidentally Skittles started doing interviews to promote Wonder)? You know, the excuse that he himself said that he hadn’t been open and vulnerable to her? That was supposed to be the real period of the original breakup! Their farce was supposed to begin as planned on July 4, 2019, and end around the end of The Romance Tour with the excuse of the distance, their work and their ever-hectic schedules, the misunderstandings, and the bullshit that he too used to justify that break. It was supposed to last for 1 year and 2/4 months as a basic PR contract, but it didn’t. Because of the fucking pandemic, every single one of their schedules was changed and adapted!

I can give you an example to make you understand better. The PR with Macaque lasted from February 9, 2018 (paparazzi pictures in Mexico) to May 11, 2019 (the last time they were photographed together), for 1 year and 2 months. Laur’s PR with Tijuana instead, lasted from February 12, 2017 (Grammy Awards 2017) to April 15, 2019 (both did a post on their social media), for 2 years and two months. Why in that case? Because the PR was divided into two parts. The first part for Lo, and the second part for Tymbal. Mila’s, on the other hand, were one-sided. The one with Matchbox was for her, and the one with Shaved was for him. Oh and, the one with Lubricant lasted 1 year and 8 months and it was one-sided as well and it was for Laur, so, you see? Same thing here.

Although it was only for Senseless, their PR was brought to the same amount of time as a bilateral one to compensate for the lost time and huge amount of money lost and which they’d have gained if everything had gone as scheduled. Therefore, it lasted for 2 years and four months (from July 4, 2019, to November 17, 2021). Now back to the question that started this, why November? Well, in my opinion, first of all because it was the month decided. As I told you before, these kinds of things are planned in advance, so they’ve calculated that month based on what’s coming next.

They got December covered thanks to I’ll Be Home for Christmas, and let’s say Mila’s second official single will be released in late January/early February. She’s even shot the music video for it already, and that means she’ll have plenty of time to promote it, do interviews, make appearances, and start re-promoting the album which oh so coincidentally will be ‘different’ from the initial project, when not a comma has been changed in reality. So, yeah. It’s also for Mila’s album and to change the narrative around it as you thought and asked me. And if you think about it, it’s the same tactic they used with the self-titled. They used her exit from the group and that overcome change/suffering as an excuse to ‘radically change’ the direction and the title of the album when in reality, nothing had been changed and everything had been planned for the narrative. Now I think they’ll do the same thing since ‘she’s getting over the breakup with what she believed was the love of her life’ 🤢. Don’t fall for that shit.

Besides that, I think they chose November to have a month off. In addition to the little appearances that Mila is making, they’re both free from interviews and free to relax until the ‘real’ work awaits them in January, so they’re finally both free to enjoy these holidays and spend their time with their families and friends without having to pretend anymore and divide their time between Miami and Toronto just for narrative purposes. So yeah. This is my opinion on the reasons for the choice of November. I could obviously be wrong, but that’s what I’ve been thinking since last year because it makes the most sense to me, and I even wrote some of that in my PR stunt relationships post.

As for the questions about Shrimp instead, the release day decision is a lot easier than you might think. The reason why singers release their songs on Fridays, is because the charts of the streaming platforms (Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music, YouTube, etc.) and a very important one especially in the United States like Billboard, which report the weekly popularity of songs and albums, start counting and tracking sales by starting from Friday until Thursday every week. So releasing on Friday, allows singers to enter the charts of singles or albums the first week, and have the whole rest of the week to gain streams and sales. That’s why it’s simply better to release on Fridays. Shuttle’s song wasn’t a music move in this case. It wasn’t about a hit and get numbers. It was obviously out of attention.

When you release on Friday, your song competes with all the others released on the same day, plus, those already released in the past that are still on the charts. Releasing mid-week in this case, it was more like a ‘Hey, I just broke up with my girlfriend. I’m not competing with anyone. That’s just my broken heart’. It was like everything that’s always been about him, a ‘give me attention, give me attention’. It doesn’t matter that the song isn’t even on the charts right now. They got the post-breakup attention boom they wanted from both shitmila and curious people, and that’s all for now. They’ll start using the breakup again and Camila herself next year for publicity whenever they need it.

Oh and, of course he’s already working on his breakup album. He probably even already finished it 🙄. Also because, he’s been saying for years that he wanted to have a relationship only to be able to write (yeah, sure, because he ‘writes’) a breakup album, so 🤦��‍♀️.

And that’s pretty much it. Don’t thank me, my dear, and have a good day/night too 🤗.

🤸🏻‍♀‍🤸🏻‍♀‍🤸🏻‍♀‍🤸🏻‍♀‍🤸🏻‍♀‍🤸🏻‍♀‍🤸🏻‍♀‍🤸🏻‍♀‍🤸🏻‍♀‍🤸🏻‍♀‍🤸🏻‍♀‍🤸🏻‍♀‍

Aaand I’m done 👅. Thank you all for your asks and I hope I’ve been helpful this time too 🙃. As usual, I’m always available for those who have questions, so ask away 😄.

Once again, happy holidays to you all!!!!! 💥🎆🎇✨🎊🎉

Remember to be nice. Always. Both with others and with yourselves. Be a good example. Be patient. Be safe and take care of yourselves. Don’t let our ship sink. Keep shipping them, but please respectfully 🙏🏼. Sending you virtual love and hugs 🤗🤗🤗. I love you, babies. Always with love, F ❤️.

[romanticentropy]

Did you lose your fight, huh? No, I just found it.

Sucker Punch (2011), dir. Zack Snyder

[romanticentropy]

Please, help me through this!

Read the text on the link, so you can understand my situation a little bit. I hope you can help me trough this.

www.buymeacoffee.com/thatsadwoman

[romanticentropy]

🤤

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many thoughts head full

[romanticentropy]

fifth harmony in fanfiction (stereotypes)

camila: smol bean, clumsy af, loves bananas, innocent af (but great in bed), good with words, 1 ex-boyfriend, gay af

lauren: badass mf, green eyes that pierce through ur soul, whipped af, has a soft spot for “camz”, even gayer

dinah: funny as shit, sometimes dumb, polybeatdown, captain, camila’s best friend, always shouts inappropriate stuff

normani: sassy as hell, motherly, lauren’s best friend, chicken wings, straightforward, usually messing with dinah

ally: jesus, bible, troy, did i mention jesus? bless you, mother, sweet sweet sunshine, allysin sometimes

BONUS

sofie: the most intelligent sweet camren shipper kid ever

sinu: is always watching

alejandro: idk but he’s always an asshole

ariana: i love camila

austin: asshole, fuckboy, dorito

shawn: sometimes camila’s gay best friend, sometimes another ex-boyfriend

clara: best mom ever

mike: best dad ever

chris: horny teenager but a good brother when he has to be

taylor: grumpy teenager or most supportive lil sis

keana: usually a mean bitch, but hot as fuck

lucy: good friend wtf, or you know, part of the love triangle

vero: flirts with camila, very funny and a good friend

alexa: gives good advice

luis: fuckboy

keaton: fuckboy

brad: no lips, bread, fuckboy, dumb as shit

dinah’s siblings: omg that’s a lot

siope: gtfo norminah is real

troy: sweet sweet boy

ANOTHER BONUS

car: runs over camila

[romanticentropy]

Lauren before her morning coffee

[To Dinah]: fuck you

[To Normani]: fuck you

[To Camila]: fuck me

[To Ally]: morning, Ally

[romanticentropy]

@fa-by so so so so same!!

Help 3 friends out

Hey babies, hi 👋🏼😄

This is a small update, a thank you, and an encouragement to continue or start for those who haven’t already, to help two of our Tumblr friends and myself.

For those who don’t know, our friend @mazes-and-the-madness​ / @life-love-literature, my love @romanticentropy, and I, have been unfairly ‘robbed’. @mazes-and-the-madness / @life-love-literature (you can see her original work here) from the YouTube channel called Kellyzzlee CS (the same one who stole every single analysis from @karlaswine​ by passing it off as their own) with their analysis on Prelude. My baby @romanticentropy​​ from the YouTube channel called Chonops Production with her analysis on Thinkin’ ‘Bout One, and I, both from una_camren_shipper_mas / Fernanda Lieberher (Instagram), and from Camren Con Tortilla (Facebook, and most likely also Twitter, but their profile it’s private and I couldn’t see if it’s there too – They even dared to put their account name on my stolen collage 😒).

To help @mazes-and-the-madness​ / @life-love-literature, just click here, or go to the Kellyzzlee CS’ YouTube channel, click on playlist, and then on ANALISIS ALBUM PRELUDE:

Open the first one of the videos to report by clicking on the three dots:

Choose spam or misleading. If you do it with your phone, then it ends there, but if you do it with your computer, then you also have to choose scams or frauds:

Which also gives you the opportunity to give the reasons/details for which you’re reporting the video:

And then the game is done:

To help my girl, just click here, or go to Chonops Production’s YouTube channel and look for the video I circled below:

Then follow the same procedure I explained earlier, and it’s done:

To help me against Camren Con Tortilla, just click here, or go to their Facebook page. Once you’ve found my collage, open the pic, click on the three dots, and then on report post:

Choose spam:

Send or submit:

And then done and that’s it:

To help me against una_camren_shipper_mas / Fernanda Lieberher, just click here, or go to her Instagram account. Once you’ve found the post with my pics, open it, click on the three dots, and then on report:

You can choose either spam or scam or fraud because both are okay:

And the game is also done here:

My Italian sister @delusionalunicorn78​ also informed me of this small addition:

But maybe una_camren_shipper_mas / Fernanda Lieberher hasn’t understood yet. She still hasn’t understood that I want my pics gone. What part of I don’t want my things outside of here is so hard to understand? Or as @athenrose​ says, follow the ‘Vegas rules’. Is it that hard for real? And plus, what? Did she think she’d fixed everything with that addition? AH! That’s really funny. I don’t give a shit about credits at all. Especially after stealing them (the pics)! And the funniest thing was seeing the other thief’s name in the credits 🤦🏻‍♀️. I want both thieves to delete them. It’s as simple as that.

So, babies, please help us stop these people 🙏🏼 because it’s not fair. And unlike IG, you can report those posts as many times as you want. Remember that the more reports are accumulated (I don’t know how many exactly are needed) the more the social network concerned is required to take action by shutting the post/video down.

Thank you all in advance. And thanks to everyone who has already helped and will continue to do so. Thank you for the support, thank you for the patience, and thank you for being here ❤.

If you need help in reporting someone else or help in general with anything, don’t hesitate to ask me. I’m here for each and everyone of you. I like to believe we’re a little CS family here on Tumblr, so, for real, I’m here for you.

I love you, my babies 🥰🤗 and thank you again.

[romanticentropy]

Thank you so much, mi amor ❤️❤️❤️ you're the best!!!

Help 3 friends out

Hey babies, hi 👋🏼😄

This is a small update, a thank you, and an encouragement to continue or start for those who haven’t already, to help two of our Tumblr friends and myself.

For those who don’t know, our friend @mazes-and-the-madness​ / @life-love-literature, my love @romanticentropy, and I, have been unfairly ‘robbed’. @mazes-and-the-madness / @life-love-literature (you can see her original work here) from the YouTube channel called Kellyzzlee CS (the same one who stole every single analysis from @karlaswine​ by passing it off as their own) with their analysis on Prelude. My baby @romanticentropy​​ from the YouTube channel called Chonops Production with her analysis on Thinkin’ ‘Bout One, and I, both from una_camren_shipper_mas / Fernanda Lieberher (Instagram), and from Camren Con Tortilla (Facebook, and most likely also Twitter, but their profile it’s private and I couldn’t see if it’s there too – They even dared to put their account name on my stolen collage 😒).

To help @mazes-and-the-madness​ / @life-love-literature, just click here, or go to the Kellyzzlee CS’ YouTube channel, click on playlist, and then on ANALISIS ALBUM PRELUDE:

Open the first one of the videos to report by clicking on the three dots:

Choose spam or misleading. If you do it with your phone, then it ends there, but if you do it with your computer, then you also have to choose scams or frauds:

Which also gives you the opportunity to give the reasons/details for which you’re reporting the video:

And then the game is done:

To help my girl, just click here, or go to Chonops Production’s YouTube channel and look for the video I circled below:

Then follow the same procedure I explained earlier, and it’s done:

To help me against Camren Con Tortilla, just click here, or go to their Facebook page. Once you’ve found my collage, open the pic, click on the three dots, and then on report post:

Choose spam:

Send or submit:

And then done and that’s it:

To help me against una_camren_shipper_mas / Fernanda Lieberher, just click here, or go to her Instagram account. Once you’ve found the post with my pics, open it, click on the three dots, and then on report:

You can choose either spam or scam or fraud because both are okay:

And the game is also done here:

My Italian sister @delusionalunicorn78​ also informed me of this small addition:

But maybe una_camren_shipper_mas / Fernanda Lieberher hasn’t understood yet. She still hasn’t understood that I want my pics gone. What part of I don’t want my things outside of here is so hard to understand? Or as @athenrose​ says, follow the ‘Vegas rules’. Is it that hard for real? And plus, what? Did she think she’d fixed everything with that addition? AH! That’s really funny. I don’t give a shit about credits at all. Especially after stealing them (the pics)! And the funniest thing was seeing the other thief’s name in the credits 🤦🏻‍♀️. I want both thieves to delete them. It’s as simple as that.

So, babies, please help us stop these people 🙏🏼 because it’s not fair. And unlike IG, you can report those posts as many times as you want. Remember that the more reports are accumulated (I don’t know how many exactly are needed) the more the social network concerned is required to take action by shutting the post/video down.

Thank you all in advance. And thanks to everyone who has already helped and will continue to do so. Thank you for the support, thank you for the patience, and thank you for being here ❤.

If you need help in reporting someone else or help in general with anything, don’t hesitate to ask me. I’m here for each and everyone of you. I like to believe we’re a little CS family here on Tumblr, so, for real, I’m here for you.

I love you, my babies 🥰🤗 and thank you again.

[romanticentropy]

Help a friend out

Hey my babies, how are you?

Can I ask you a favor? Could you go report (as ‘spam’ will do) this post: https://www.instagram.com/p/CWmmdNNMT0G/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link?

This person, whoever they are, has been very disrespectful to me and to what I asked to all of you in my AMAs post. These kinds of people are exactly the reason why I regret every single time doing posts like that. It’s not fair to me, and it’s not fair to all of you who are kind and respect other people’s decisions.

I know they didn’t copy what I wrote (thankfully, at least one thing), but they still stole some of my pics, and worst thing, they tagged Carlene and Chelsea in two of them. The point is, they could very well have gone to the original accounts that some of those pics came from (Mila’s and Justine’s ones) and taken screenshots from them, but no. They had to steal those from me, plus some that I created myself as collages. I did research and wasted hours and days putting everything together for that post. I mean, you guys know this. You know how long it took me to create that post. I know this isn’t that bad compared to anything else because they’re just pics, but it doesn’t make it right anyway. It doesn’t make it right for me, and for all those who like me, work their asses off to then get ‘robbed’ just like that.

And yeah, I’m also talking about a lot of you here on Tumblr. I saw two YouTube channels, one called Chonops Production and the other one called Kellyzzlee CS, who like to steal posts from here and post them as if they were their own work. I know about Chonops Production because they stole one of my love’s posts about Thinkin’ ‘Bout One for which she had to ask them to delete it. And the first time, they pretended to do it by hiding it to then posting it again, and the second time, just a few days ago, I myself started reporting them because the video was back there again. As for Kellyzzlee CS, on the other hand, I know about them because they stole every single analysis of @karlaswine​ passing it off as their own (I told Karla’s Wine when I found out), and then, since she’s on an indefinite hiatus, Kellyzzlee CS started to steal someone else’s analysis from here on Tumblr. I don’t remember from who, guys, and I’m really sorry, but if you wrote analysis, then I recommend you to go check their channels because your work might have been stolen by them without you even noticing it.

People like una_camren_shipper_mas / Fernanda Lieberher, Chonops Production, and Kellyzzlee CS, are people who like to steal from others and take their credit. Credit of a work they didn’t do. Credit they don’t deserve.

And I’m referring to you three now. I don’t know if Chonops Production and Kellyzzlee CS are following me or if they’ll read this through some re-blogs, but I’m referring especially to you una_camren_shipper_mas / Fernanda Lieberher that you stole from me. Instead of taking what’s not yours from others without asking their permission and passing it off as your work, why don’t you learn to be less lazy and use your brain to create something instead of stealing it from others? Oh, oh, wait. I do know the answer. Because it’s easy in your way, right? It’s simply easier to steal, post, and get praised for that because anyway the other ones who follow you don’t know it’s stolen, right? Wow. Congratulations. My most sincerely fake congratulations 👏🏼.

When I noticed this, my girlfriend commented in their post with her finsta:

Translation: “Those pictures are not yours, they belong to a CS fan that explicitly asked that her theories and pictures were not uploaded in other social media outside Tumblr. Please * hide the post * and contact the owner of the post where you copied the pictures from so that she can tell you if she wants and in which way you can post her theories or edits.”

She was nice to them. And what did una_camren_shipper_mas / Fernanda Lieberher do? Not only did they completely ignore her, but they deleted her comment and blocked her. Then I commented with my finsta, and after seeing that the pics were still there, I commented a second time by giving them the last chance to make up for it. But guess what? They deleted my comments and blocked me too. This happened today. And now I’m tired of their attitude. So, babies, I’m asking you too the favor to go report that post please 🙏🏼. The more reports are accumulated (I don’t know how many exactly are needed) the more the social network concerned, in my case IG, is required to take action by shutting the post down.

This is what people like that deserve. And if you want, even report anyone else who has stolen (without asking permission and without giving credit) something that doesn’t belong to them on other social media because it’s really not fair to the owners. I know that this kind of thing like ‘reporting’ someone/something may seem silly to you, but it’s not, because it’s a way to teach that kind of people a lesson.

As small as this thing may look, it can at least make one difference. And who knows, if everyone started doing it, it might make a big difference because those people would stop doing it (stealing other people’s work).

Thanks for your time, and thanks in advance to all those who are gonna actually do it for real and that won’t just read this 🙏🏼❤.