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THE WAY TINY IVAN TUCKS INTO TILL AT THE END WHEN IT MENTIONS HE NEVER SAW HIM AFTER THAT. IMHSEFHshef

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thinking about how till held ivan's (hallucination) face the same way ivan held his in r6/karma ..

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i give you this 🪀

does this make you the yoyo master..

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Pulled an all nighter for this oopsies

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I can't lie and say this new comic didn't hurt (even if i kinda expected something like this) but i think it's important to remind ourselves that what we are seeing is TILL's point of view. No Ivan, no Mizi, no Isaac pov. But Till. And, as we saw in Mizi's comic, the unreliable narrator is always present and kicking.

Now

Saying this as an Ivantill fan

Ivan's love towards Till wasn't pure and pretty, and we know that from the start.

His love was longing and messy and desperate and one sided (at least, from his pov)

And it was selfish, but not completely.

Because, he WANTED to leave his scar (sry) on Till. He wanted Till to remember him, to love him, to see him. But he was sure that that would never have happened.

('Paratise', song, May 21th 2025 + 'Confession', comic, April 12th, 2024)

Also, this panel is very dear to me (from 'Confession')

'I don't think I would do this either'

Ivan didn't want to destroy Till. He could have done so many things if his love was cruel and savage. On many other occasions. We all agree that the kiss was sa and it left an emotional damage on Till. But i don't think it was made thinking about 'i want him to suffer'.

He didn't want to hurt Till. But at the same time he wanted, in a twisted kind of way, because he wanted him to notice him, to love him back. He didn't want to cause Till painful flashbacks during his final round so he could 'die'. But at the same time he wanted Till to remember him, to leave his memory on him.

Because love isn't always pretty. But it is love too.

And we saw that even with Mizisua.

'But it was love, too'

Mizi knew Sua wouldn't have gone on, without her. But she could. She knew Sua was about to die for her, and she let her do it. Because she loved her.

'But it was love, too'

Ivan knew Till would have gone on, without him. But he couldn't. He knew he was about to die for Till, and he thought that Till wouldn't have cared, even if he wished he would. And he loved him.

Was Ivan messed up? Definitely. But so were all of them. Do I hate him? No sir. I can't. He saved Till, and Till is alive. And that's all i need for now.

Does Till love him too? I don't know. And i don't even want to go and assume anything. But I'm sure as hell that he didn't hate Ivan.

And I want to believe that in an alternative universe they could be happy. Because it was all about love, at the very end.

Also, the first panels...those are the moments important for Till...my boy.... I love u...

I think it would be important to speak a little about the fact that we see both Adult Ivan and Kid Ivan in Till's mind (personal opinion, respectively Ivan who caused him the shocked/pain and Ivan who he remember more vividly and he loved/was fond of) but that's would be a too long discussion probably and im too tired haha

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— vision

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Can't make too many things rn, my brain is still processing the trauma I experienced just now. But—

I was wondering what this scene meant. What is the context? Art. Personally I think Till seems genuinely surprised. Because he finds himself a bit taken aback at the thought that Ivan harboured a feeling of disapproval about him, ever since Anakt Garden.

When he proceeded to ask this question, the child Ivan was suddenly replaced with the grown up one. Till's expression looked like it went from curiosity and got replaced with caution when he saw the change. Like he wanted the answer from the child version, maybe bc kids tend to be more honest if you ask them enough (?)

Or because from what we have seen previously, the grown version does more harm to him than anyone. As if that version of Ivan is who he thinks is what Ivan felt truly at heart, if he was stripped off his masks.

Or maybe, grown up Ivan is the manifestation of his self-hatred, survivor's guilt and what not that he felt towards himself.

Or maybe, as @one-selective-bitch stated: "It's that that's, idk how to say it, a bearable "form". In the comics it referred as a calmed down version of Ivan after Till SH. So it's not that child Ivan isn't that but it's that the more we see him grown up, the more sense of guilt/self hatred Till is feeling. We even see how at the peak of it Ivan is shown at his dying moment, with blood on his lips and drenched from the rain"

Regardless, Till then proceeded to go "let's not talk" Which I think it was a way of blocking out any negative affirmations he could've received from him, probably bc he can't find it in himself to see that Ivan was upset with him about things that he's realised too late, let alone apologize for it, cause he's no longer alive.

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my wish / to live in / you like parasite

reference image below:

art by VIVINOS

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Ivan is truly man of his words

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Ivan is alive truthers, how are we feeling??

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meteor shower parallels... confirmation that Till desperately tried to reach Ivan after he hit the floor,, Till cares so bad...I used to pray for times like these

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Why Ivan is alive - a thread 🧵 [based on facts and not my deluded imagination]

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the new comic turned me into a kettle. (I almost cried) also we’re gonna get part two yayy!!!!!

I gotta say, I LOVE how ivan represents till’s survivor’s guilt. and the fact that r6 ivan is always smiling and sweating and got wet hair because that’s how he looked in his final moments??? and yill being more comfortable with young ivan??? AND IT’S ALL TILL’S POV???

what can I say. I won. but also lost. because I hate (love) them doomed yaoi

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Yeah so what if I like making everyone miserable. Okay last one. Promise.

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Can we talk about Till's drawing a bit more, i love all the little details!

Just to the right of Ivans head we see something crossed out. I'm not certain but to me it looks like it could have been the beginnings of a microphone, like the ones used in round 6. I love the idea that Till is starting to consciously choose to stop associating Ivan solely with this event.

We also have what looks like an eye to me pointed towards Ivan. It's so detailed. I love that this could represent both how Till truly did pay attention to Ivan, enough to take in and remember all these small details about him. But also could be more symbolic of how he truly did "see" him.

Not to mention the flower!!!

I'm sure there are artists out there who could pick up on way more than me but I just thought this whole page was so well done!

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