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"people use it in the rpc for ease rather than saying “my muse likes to take the lead in bed unless your muse is more of a tough nut then they’ll be happy to take their peen instead.” if you don’t like it, make a psa about it and offer alternative terms or something idk" and THIS is exactly why we say that the rpc are not lgbtq+ allies lmao
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wasn’t this about muns being forced to play sexual positions they didn’t want? jesus. // well see and now you're the one with poor reading comprehension because no one is talking about being forced to play sexual positions they don't want 😭
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top/bottom/vers should not be used for heterosexual people lmao //// people use it in the rpc for ease rather than saying “my muse likes to take the lead in bed unless your muse is more of a tough nut then they’ll be happy to take their peen instead.” if you don’t like it, make a psa about it and offer alternative terms or something idk
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also, are lesbians and woc not able to be dominant/submissive? it was just odd to throw it in, because often we see lgbtq+ hate combatted with using racism as a comparison when they're both different things. i, personally, think that's how it was taken. and maybe we should be a little kinder than telling people to choke, shut up, grow up, etc. //// atp i think y’all are just yapping to yap because ain’t none of this applies to that og comment unless you have terrible reading comprehension. stuff like this makes me understand why there is a literacy crisis in a hobby about reading. and i hate how conversations get derailed from someone nitpicking the smallest details. wasn’t this about muns being forced to play sexual positions they didn’t want? jesus.
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hot take. having all korean fcs is just as bad as having all white fcs.
i don’t think this is a hot take imo i feel like this has been talked about before
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top/bottom/vers should not be used for heterosexual people lmao
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i've also noticed that the people who don't pull their weight in threads in tumblr group rps are always stressing and complaining in the ooc about having "too much backlog" (or too many threads in their drafts. fucking hate that term backlog. triggers me every time i see it. it makes me feel like this hobby is turned into a job if people in a group are stressed out about thread counts and backlogs needing to get done at a certain time/date.
idk maybe these people wouldn't have so much backlog if y'all learned how to pull your weight and finish threads when they can end instead of dragging things out like a CW hit show.
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Thank you for saying that. Because that is definitely the main problem I've discovered as well. Not just within smut threads but in general. No one I write with is willing to take the thread further on their own. And I really wonder why? Is everyone THAT lazy these days? And why are those people always the ones with 100+ drafts? I know this is very much off topic right now, but I genuienly don't understand.
i've noticed it too. i think some of it is laziness and other instances are just a lack of true understanding how rping works. in my 10+ years in tumblr rp i've learned a lot from watching others and experience.
in my opinion, there's a difference between "writing" (fanfiction, poetry, novels, etc.) and "rping." obviously a decent skill in writing plays a part in rping but i see them as two different skills.
i've encountered some great writers with amazing storytelling capabilities, incredibly thought out characters, and awesome writing churning out paragraphs upon paragraphs of details and inner thoughts with metaphors and similes and what not that might've come straight from a book i'm reading. the problem i almost always see with them? their replies are crafted so perfectly for a solo piece but there's little to nothing for me or my character to engage with them 🥴
most great writers in the rp scene are not great rpers because they've yet to realize the interactivity portion of writing a thread with someone else. every thread functions like two people sawing down a tree together, each one should be pushing and pulling their weight to accomplish their objective. some threads one person is designated to pull more weight than others, but that should never excuse the other party from giving the laziest, most passive replies every single time whether you're writing smut, a dialogue, fighting, or literally any type of scene.
but that's just my two cents on the subject.
throwing this into the tags because i think many people need to hear this
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top/bottom/vers is gay. dom/sub/switch is for bdsm culture. top/bottom is most historically derived from AIDs. just because hets wanted to take it from gay people, doesn't mean it's historically for them. it was all about anal sex. queer history is lost on everyone. it's why i'm not shocked how liberally some of you guys use the d slur lol.
idk what you're on about, no one that i've seen has denied that the terms top/bottom/verse historically originated with gay men, but you're wrong about the origins. these terms were first introduced in the 50s during the leather kink culture of gay men. it was not derived from the AIDS pandemic, though it became more relevant then in the 70s as gay men (particularly bottoms) were at higher HIV risk.
history has these terms starting with gay men, however, today they are not exclusive for just gay men. they can be used for all LGBTQ+ individuals and heterosexuals as well to indicate preference in penetrating vs being penetrated. no one "took it" from anyone.
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why no one is writing tops OR doms is because that role requires the top character writer to lead the thread.
Thank you for saying that. Because that is definitely the main problem I've discovered as well. Not just within smut threads but in general. No one I write with is willing to take the thread further on their own. And I really wonder why? Is everyone THAT lazy these days? And why are those people always the ones with 100+ drafts? I know this is very much off topic right now, but I genuienly don't understand.
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top/bottom/vers is gay. dom/sub/switch is for bdsm culture. top/bottom is most historically derived from AIDs. just because hets wanted to take it from gay people, doesn't mean it's historically for them. it was all about anal sex. queer history is lost on everyone. it's why i'm not shocked how liberally some of you guys use the d slur lol.
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also the op said "i say this about my woc and lesbian muses" so it seemed like they were talking about men. and with the terms top and switch, it was alluded to being gay men. so it's just frustrating to see a conversation about (assumed) men pull in women of color and lesbians to add to their argument. which does seem like using woc and lesbians as a sort of shield. i don't think that's a wrong way to see it, as another posted made point of centering conversations around men. also, are lesbians and woc not able to be dominant/submissive? it was just odd to throw it in, because often we see lgbtq+ hate combatted with using racism as a comparison when they're both different things. i, personally, think that's how it was taken. and maybe we should be a little kinder than telling people to choke, shut up, grow up, etc.
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ftr, top, bottom, verse/switch are NOT just exclusive to gay men –– all couples and individuals regardless of gender/sex and sexual orientation can use these terms as they're the most general ones to label someone's preferred position during sex. the other anon mentioned this earlier that dom and sub are not really the "vanilla" terms for that, that's a specific kink that two consenting character partners agree to as a sort of roleplay like 50 Shades of Gray style.
as someone who is primarily the mxm smut side and familiar with these things, i think the issue really is the people you're all finding to write with. i've had these frustrations for a while (and i still do) and my personal opinion on why no one is writing tops OR doms is because that role requires the top character writer to lead the thread.
a lot of people who write bottoms or subs, in my experience, don't seem to realize that just because their character is getting fucked or they're the submissive in the relationship that there's more someone can write their character doing than just laying there and moaning and taking it. so yeah, i agree there a lot of wet blanket "lazy" bottoms and subs i've seen out there.
it took me time to figure out how to write a good top or a good dom as i was someone who preferred to write bottoms because it was easier and more natural for me. today i'd say even my bottom or submissive characters aren't a submissive personality type outside the bedroom. i have a big ole power bottom in my arsenal of characters. i have two verse or switch characters that omg, they're real switches!! they'll top AND bottom depending on the partner they have and the scene. i've even had couples of characters who were both verse or one where they both preferred topping and the characters would take turns being on top and bottom because the characters (and writers) had these relationship conversations.
tl;dr: find the right partners who share similar values with how you like to rp to find happiness writing all the top, verse, and bottom characters you enjoy without frustration. writing compatibility and communication are all very important in every aspect of this hobby.
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so why wouldn't someone assume the conversation is about gay men considering there's a "top shortage" in the rpc (and life in general)
i never said someone shouldn’t assume? though i can see how you may have taken my answer as the opposite of that i was simply clarifying what terms the op used
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well then don't talk about top/bottom if you're not talking about gay men... topping and bottoming is not a hetero thing or, tbh, a lesbian thing. i don't have an opinion but if you're talking about top/bottom then it's automatically about gay men or at least when both partners have a penis or they're masc.
the op definitely said dom/sub specifically i don’t think they mentioned top/bottom (about to go check and update this post after i confirm)
edit: they said why does no one play doms or tops and mentioned switches. they never used the term bottoms and only referred to the term sub.
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[vent - can be posted!] as a lesbian there’s been an exhausting trend recently where other women writers are playing bi/pan/etc women as characters & are queer themselves, and then end up rejecting every serious wlw romance for them? hookups, sure. but the amount of times i’ve had strong chemistry, a good plot line, and great relationship development with a wlw ship, only to get dumped for a new (usually white lmao) male character that has less of those qualities imo… it’s disappointing. i understand everyone has preferences and sometimes it doesn’t work, but god, i wish people were more honest about the way they center male characters in this community.
sometimes i straight up have to wonder if my muses are being used to fulfill a fantasy before they move onto their endgame with a man. i’m begging at this point that if you’re not interested in writing queer relationships or even just prefer non-queer ones, just make the character straight. it feels even more hurtful that its coming from women in the queer community more often than not too, because they should, theoretically, have the same amount of interest as me in writing these ships. i’m exhausted and feel used, and i don’t even know what to do to avoid this at this point.
you’re so valid
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