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I love your saw and DC art!!! a crossover would be cool (maybe Amanda as poison ivy/Hoffman as the riddler/ or even Adam as Jason!!!)

your art is lovely, never stop making it!!!

Alas this ask definitely got away with me. I started worldbuilding smh. Full breakdown of my thought process under the read more. If anyone has any ideas for other characters in this au hmu

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BRUCE WAYNE | THE JIGSAW KILLER

After loosing his parents to a gunman in his youth and his caretaker Alfred to illness, Bruce Wayne was desolate. After years of being alone in such a large house from such a young age surrounded by the frivolity that only the young and the rich can afford Bruce Wayne becomes bored and tired of his depressing existence and tries to kill himself.

Upon failing he discovers that he has a new renewed vigor and love for life and after studying under Ras Al Ghul and having an affair with his daughter, he came to adopt their beliefs that one should never waste their lives and be grateful for each day. Upon his arrival home to Gotham (alongside Talia) which has become more depraved and lost in his absence he decides to put his genius level intellect to use and design traps and games to test people's will to live, as he had been tested.

As he never became Batman in this timeline there are a lot of young people in Gotham being dragged into dire circumstances and Bruce believes that, should they be willing, any who pass their own tests are free to join his crusade.

Here, Talia takes on the role of Jill Tuck, although she has supported Bruce's ideals from the beginning and how all people can be redeemed - she has doubts that his traps are the most effective method and may cause more harm than good. After miscarrying their child, Damian, the pair part ways and Talia leaves Gotham.

Instead of donning the iconic pig masks which are a sign of rebirth especially in Chinese culture - instead Bruce dawns the Bat Mask to capture his victims - In some cultures, Bats are also symbolic of inspiration, intuition, and a strong need to connect with one’s inner nature and thus Bruce Wayne becomes the Jigsaw Killer

DICK GRAYSON | THE FIRST APPRENTICE

When Haley's circus arrived in Gotham police officers weren't far behind demanding a protection racket as the streets of Gotham are a "dangerous place" - when they were turned away by the Ringmaster the pair decided to cut the ropes of the circus's biggest act: The Flying Graysons.

After watching his parents fall to their deaths at the hands of corrupt officers - Dick Grayson vows his revenge. There is no Bruce Wayne to pick up the peices of this broken child - with no Alfred to encourage him to go to the circus and still mourning the loss of his and Talia's son, Bruce has poured his life into his games.

When Grayson was inevitably shoved into Gothams horrifying foster system he took time to collect himself and do some research on this brand new, foreign city he found himself in. Immediately Dick was drawn to the news of the Jigsaw Killer - a man who punished wrongdoers and set them on a path of righteousness. Dick wanted the officers who had killed his parents to come to that same justice.

10 years later when still no justice came; Dick took matters into his own hands.

He joined the police force and started setting up traps for the corrupt officers in his midst and eventually he closed in on the men responsible for his parents death.

Shortly before he was able to enact revenge he was kidnapped by the real jigsaw killer - Bruce Wayne. Bruce gave Grayson his own trap - the opportunity to choose; he could kill the man responsible for killing his parents or work with Bruce and become the first Jigsae apprentice. Despite his hesitation Dick agreed to work with Jigsaw and an admirable partnership grew.

Two years later however, the relationship between Dick and Bruce grew tense and strained with the two butting heads on every aspect of the games - in the end Dick decided that it was time to bring Jigsaw's work further afield and set up shop in the neighboring town of Blüdhaven and worked undercover as a police officer there in order to sniff out and test the corrupt cops as well as delinquents and those who didn't value their life.

Grayson's role in the narrative here is primarily inspired by Mark Hoffman & William Schneck

JASON TODD | THE SECOND APPRENTICE

After his father's incarceration and the death of his mother, Jason had to learn to survive on the brutal Park Row streets of Gotham. Through stealing and occasionally running drugs for gangs, it was a miracle in itself when Jason made it to 18.

A chance encounter at Leslie Thompkins' clinic has Bruce witnessing Jason fighting with other patients and stealing from others and decides to test him. Upon passing, Bruce begins training Jason as his new apprentice (Dick at this point has departed to Bludhaven).

Jason ends up discovering Willis' journal and, upon discovering that his birth mother works in the army as a medic, he decides to join up without informing Bruce until after he has left. Jason ends up being captured and held in enemy territory for a number of months and is presumed dead by the army. Upon escaping, Jason returns to Gotham and starts setting up rigged traps against those he believes to be irredemable, tending to focus on abusers and drug dealers. Upon discovering that Jason is alive and in Gotham, Bruce tests Jason again as he is no longer following his teachings. He ends up passing this test as well and Bruce encourages him to get his medical degree and become a coroner in order to find more subjects for tests.

Jason in this AU is primarily inspired by Logan Nelson, with a little bit of Amanda Young

Got a little stuck after these lot - let me know if anyone has any ideas for other dc characters in this universe

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