in one of the livestreams that laura did during the pandemic she talked about being friends with frank iero and casually mentioned that when mcr and against me! played their first show together back in 2003 there were only about 10 people in the venue. and..like.. where are these ten lucky mfs right now? they had already been there while we were sleeping on those bands (aside from the fact that most of us were babies in early 2000s).