swiftiesdestiel
swiftiesdestiel
You and I have began to blur.
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swiftiesdestiel · 8 minutes ago
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i wanna pinch his cheeks HE’S SO CUTE
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swiftiesdestiel · 2 hours ago
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OMG? Castle Byers is literally right next to Loverslake. I’ve been wondering what Mike and Will were doing to end up in loverslake and now I am CONVINCED that they were at castle Byers especially from those BTS photos we got last year
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They definitely visited Castle Byers talked about whatever happened in season 3 and the painting and fixed castle Byers and walked around then went to loverslake and…
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swiftiesdestiel · 2 hours ago
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I just saw someone on Twitter pointing out that each season's finale predicted the events of the next season and I'm actually freaking out after finding this out because wtf????? BYLER IS SO CANON THIS CURED ALL MY BYLER DOUBT the season 4 finale is actually foreshadowing byler like, we all thought that already and idk if I'm dumb but until now I had not realized they have done this in EVERY SEASON so how could they not do it on the last one????
I need to calm myself down
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swiftiesdestiel · 2 hours ago
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this is so cute i want this pinball machine
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swiftiesdestiel · 4 hours ago
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okay but lowkey….. i’d LOVEEE to see some jealous mike
There's a real possibility we get a Will Byers centric love triangle in ST5
We know the Duffers love a good love triangle.
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So much so, they've given us one (or several) in every season of Stranger Things thus far—and I don’t think they’ll break that streak in Season 5.
One thing I’ve noticed is that while some love triangles stretch across multiple seasons (like Steve/Nancy/Jonathan), the writers also introduce at least one new triangle each season.
Here’s a quick breakdown:
S1: Steve / Nancy / Jonathan S2: Steve / Nancy / Jonathan + Joyce / Hopper / Bob + Lucas / Dustin / Max S3: Robin / Steve / Tammy + Joyce / Hopper / Alexei + Joyce / Hopper / Mr Clarke S4: Steve / Nancy / Jonathan + Mike / El / Will + Robin / Vickie / Vickie's ex-boyfriend S5: Steve / Nancy / Jonathan (likely resolved) + Mike / El / Will (will come to a head) + ???
Sometimes they’re played straight, but the writers also love to openly mock the love triangle trope, too—especially in Season 3:
For example, Hopper gets irrationally jealous over Joyce talking to Mr Clarke and even Alexei—prompting Joyce’s sarcastic line about how every man she talks to must be her boyfriend. And of course, there's Steve wrongly assuming Robin has a crush on him, then confessing to her, only to find out she actually liked Tammy Thompson.
Basically, there’s no one way the writers use this trope. They clearly enjoy it—but more importantly, they enjoy subverting it.
So, call me delusional but I think it's likely that we could be getting another Will Byers love triangle in Season 5:
He's the main character of the season and his arc will (partially), revolve around his "coming of age" and acceptance of his sexuality, after all.
Will has consistently been portrayed as someone who is considered attractive or desirable in-universe. In every season except Season 3, a girl shows interest in him despite his nerdiness and perceived queerness.
And now, it looks like the Duffer Brothers are visually rebranding him as a romantic lead:
His new hair and costume design feels both heroic and boyish. The flannel—once a staple of his wardrobe and a symbol of his innocence—is slowly being phased out, suggesting a gradual loss of that innocence. However, he’s still buttoned up. That tells me Will is stepping into his manhood (and by extension, his sexuality), but he's still holding something back. He's going to need to be pushed out of his comfort zone; both physically and emotionally.
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Even narratively, there are established links which hint at a possible non-Mike love interest:
When we look back at Will’s comment about not falling in love, we often read it as foreshadowing his feelings for Mike—or hinting that he already is in love with him. But I also interpret it as something more: Will doesn’t believe he will ever inspire love (or romantic attraction). He sees himself as undesirable.
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Think about the four original members of the Party. Yes, they’re all considered uncool nerds to some degree—yet three of them are affirmed through romantic connection: Lucas has Max. Dustin has Suzie. Mike has El. They each receive validation and the feeling of being wanted.
Will does not.
And yet, the writers have made a consistent effort to show us that Will is considered attractive—despite his belief that he isn’t, and despite the lack of romantic validation he receives. That creates a real disconnect. A kind of cognitive dissonance.
Having Will repeatedly receive attention from girls—only to reject them or appear disinterested—was an effective way to subtly hint at his queerness. But it’s happened so many times now, that there needs to be a payoff.
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What is the long-term point of making the canonically gay kid, who already believes he’s undesirable, only receive interest from women?
Er, there isn’t one.
It makes sense, then, to give Will the opportunity to experience mutual same-sex attraction with someone who isn't Mike.
Because Will's arc about accepting his sexuality doesn't just have to culminate in the realization that Mike loves him too (as sweet as that is).
It should culminate with the knowledge that queerness is valid, that he is considered desirable and worthy of romantic interest, and that he isn't alone in experiencing queerness.
Additionally, as mentioned above, Will is already perceived as queer—he’s been bullied for it his entire life, despite never explicitly coming out. Hawkins is a small town where word travels fast. So if there is another young gay guy in town, chances are… they’ve already heard of “Zombie Boy” Will Byers.
He'd certainly be on their radar: he’s good-looking, he’s mysterious, and he’s still closeted, which means he’d likely be discreet.
And let’s not forget where Will was emotionally at the end of Season 4, especially regarding his feelings for Mike:
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He’s starting from ground zero in Season 5. He has zero hope that Mike feels the same way, and he’s likely going to be making zero moves.
In fact, most Byler theorists agree—it makes sense that Mike will have to be the initiator in Season 5. Will is just too emotionally shut down to make the first move.
But… wait a minute.
If this season is supposed to be about Will coming into his own as a young gay man—about self-acceptance, confidence, and owning his identity—how does that make sense if Mike is the one initiating everything?!
Well… maybe Mike needs to make the first move when it comes to Byler. But that doesn’t mean Will has to stay passive the whole season.
It’s possible that Will could gain some much-needed confidence—maybe even a bit of romantic “practice”—by taking a more active role with someone else first.
Giving Will a (temporary) new love interest would also level-out the playing field between himself and Mike:
There's a real sense of karmic justice and ironic foreshadowing in Stranger Things.
Will's jealousy of Mike and El's relationship has been hinted at for two seasons now—and he even complained that Mike only called a couple times while El had a "book of letters" from him.
What’s interesting is that even after Mike takes accountability for their argument and they make up, that specific comment—about the phone calls and letters—is never addressed. It lingers.
That’s why I think we could see a similar conversation (or even a full-blown argument) between Mike and Will in Season 5. But this time, Will might be the one receiving phone calls or letters—from someone else.
And let’s not forget: it’s possible that the Byers are temporarily staying with the Wheelers in Season 5. If Will has a secret admirer, and he’s trying to keep it quiet, Mike is going to find out. (Excellent way to manufacture drama).
I also feel compelled to reiterate that the Duffers have shown time and time again: they can handle love triangles in many different ways.
They can play it for comedy. They can make it completely one-sided or delusional—like Mike projecting his own jealousy, much like Hopper did with Joyce in Season 3. A love triangle doesn’t have to be serious or long-lasting. It could span multiple episodes, or just one. It could involve a kiss—or zero physical contact at all.
And it doesn’t have to disrupt a Byler endgame—in fact, quite the opposite:
Seeing Will Byers receive romantic attention from another male character would serve as a reminder to the audience that Will is desirable and that he has options—this increases the stakes for Mike.
The GA will start wondering if this is really Will's endgame, and if he is truly ready to get over Mike. The GA, especially those who never shipped Byler before, may find themselves unexpectedly invested. They might even feel disappointed or sad at the thought of Will "moving on."
It also creates space for the writers to show us jealous Mike. Just as we've seen jealous, longing Will, a temporary love triangle allows us to explore Mike’s feelings through that same lens of romantic insecurity.
This brings the possibility of Byler to the forefront of the GA's subconscious. At the same time, it invites them to root for Mike, and therefore Byler.
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swiftiesdestiel · 5 hours ago
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I’m so ready for byler endgame🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️
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swiftiesdestiel · 3 days ago
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low(high)key considering making will’s painting for mike because i desperately need to do something with my life..
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swiftiesdestiel · 3 days ago
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im thinking about Hopper watching his basically adopted daughter get together with the guy he can't stand and he will AGAIN watch his new adopted SON being in love and getting together with the same guy AND I LAUGH EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.
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swiftiesdestiel · 3 days ago
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byler lawyer notice AGAIN iktr🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️
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swiftiesdestiel · 4 days ago
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this was the post i lost when i accidentally refreshed, thankyou to the person who put this on my feed again
Let's do a quick comparison of El's and Will's first and last scenes...
First shot of season 4:
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(El painting Hopper's figurine for her diorama vs Will making a romantic painting for Mike)
Last one on one scene of season 4:
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What we know of season 5:
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In conclusion, once again, El's personal arc is about family more than romance and her relationship with Hopper seems to be what the writers are focusing on. Will's arc is about romantic love and his feelings for Mike. This kinda spells out how the ending of the love triangle, don't you think? Why would the writers focus on those two pairings in the last season of the show if Mike and El are supposed to be this endgame power couple? Why did Mike promise to be a team and to kill Vecna with his best friend who's secretely in love with him instead of his superhero girlfriend? Where exactly is the supposed "main couple of the show"?
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swiftiesdestiel · 4 days ago
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OKAY WAIT so I know a lot of bylers (including me) root for Mike kissing Will first, but OKAY just think about it, it would be really cool if when they are talking about the painting and Mike keeps demanding why Will made it, Will just snaps because it’s the end of the world, he might die, and so he’s done being scared, he’s done with running away. He’s going to rip the bandaid. So HE initiates the kiss 🤯
And THEN after Will is like “Thats why…thats…it.” And hes ABOUT to walk away but THEN ( y’all already know what I’m gonna say but I’ll say it anyway)
MIKEKISSESWILLMIKEKISSESWILLMIKEKISSESWILL
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swiftiesdestiel · 4 days ago
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will holding onto mike’s arm i can’t do thiiissss😭😭😭
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swiftiesdestiel · 4 days ago
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LMAOO no cause why DO i kinda feel bad for them😭
i want what milkvans are on
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swiftiesdestiel · 4 days ago
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IJBOL
i want what milkvans are on
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swiftiesdestiel · 4 days ago
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i want what milkvans are on
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swiftiesdestiel · 4 days ago
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this will byers and this mike wheeler
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swiftiesdestiel · 4 days ago
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something i like to convince myself is Mike was also talking about Will in the painting car scene!!!! All of those looks he was giving Will, especially when Will looked away..
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like this is NOT a look you give just a friend..
“Superman” Mike Wheeler is GAY!!!!
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also this was PEAK cinematography.. big fan of finding meaning in everything!
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