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canayams-art · 10 months
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yikes ik it's been a while, and trust me ive been meaning to talk more about qianqing, but the uni exams started and now i FINALLY found some free time (and a sticky note at the back of my brain reminding me) to talk 😭
also before anything SEASON 2 LOOKS SOOOO FREAKING GOOOD!! like in absolutely in love with mq and i thought i couldn't love him more but i was fortunately proven wrong ! also it dragged me back into fengqing so there's that hensndkeknd it only took few hot shots of fx and yeah i hate that i love them again but i do and there's nothing i can do about it but accept 😔✊ I HAD SUCH HIGH EXPECTATIONS FOR LQQ AND HE MET EVERY ONE OF THEM SJDJDJD HE LOOKS SO BABY and speaking of him, im sooooo curious what was your favorite lqq scene??
you seem to have read my thoughts when you answered my last ask because THOSE WERE EXACTLY THE SCENES I IMAGINED THEM IN!! mq nagging lqq about paperwork, friendly sparring, lqq sticking around mq during events in the heaven iejejekejej gods i wish i have more time so i can write something for them because this hasn't stopped itching my brain for weeks 😭
i also raise you that they go on missions together, because once mq gets comfortable and once he notices that lqq keeps inviting him, even if he doesn't need the help, he would invite lqq simply for the company!
lqq meeting fy on his purse of revenge could go into sooo many different directions!! like does lqq figure out fy is out on defending mq's name quest and is conflicted because he wants to help but also killing qr takes priority rn? does he try to convince fy to work together?? now i wanna explore every crevice of that meeting and make like thousands fics for it!!
(it's not out of the question, ive done aus out of my own aus! im sure if i find the time i could do this as well😭)
the thing about qiurong for me, as it is with many ships in big fandoms, it feels very forced ig by the fandom? i don't think im wording it correctly, but for me i usually don't end up liking many of those ships because it feels like people would just smush two characters together because they ran out of characters they can pair them with. and it's not necessarily a bad thing, but in this case the most im seeing from qiurong is fluffy family aus, which would never come to mind for me when i think about qr and lqq in a room together. again not a bad thing, not a bad ship, but personally not my cup of tea.
i do have to admit tho, im always kinda leaning towards more canon characterization, so i do have a particular tastes in ships i do ship and in definitely not one of the people who would read anything they can from the ships i like. so i think i wouldn't have gave up so quickly on quirong if i found something that suits my taste, because i do like both of their characters separately.
EXPLORING THE SIDE CHARACTERS RELATIONSHIPS IS ALWAYS THE BEST PART IN ANY FANDOM FOR ME!!! especially as someone whose faves are usually the side characters lol the creativity and the freedom of interpretation, diving deeper into them and putting them into situations and having to think about how they would act in them sjsjjsjd makes me crazy every time!
IVE SEEN YOUR LQQ/SQX ART AND OMG I WAS KICKING MY FEET ON MY BED LIKE A KID! EJJEJEEJ IT WAS SOO PRETTY!! GENUINELY LIVED IT! 😍😍😍
WELCOME BACK QIANQING ANON!! Best of luck with your exams! Make sure you find time to take breaks and rest your brain when you can!
For real though season 2 has been such a treat so far— visually stunning and so fun to watch. I know what you mean about sinking back into fengqing hell while watching it. I’ve been in the same position— once you go fengqing you can never leave fengqing. They’re still so important to me 🥹🥹🧡
ALSO LQQ IS JUST AS ENDEARING AND CHARMING AS I HOPED HE WOULD BE. The way he’s so expressive and always so honest— he wears his feelings at all times and it’s always been one of my favorite qualities of his. Also asking me to choose a fav lqq scene is cruel— I love them ALL!!! From his intervention in the gambler’s den and subsequent fight with Hua Cheng, to the way Xie Lian still wrangles him like they’re still teacher & student, to lqq’s “if I hadn’t stepped in, nobody else would,” to the anger and pain in his voice as he broke his own arm to make a fair duel against xl,,,,, there’s so many good scenes!!!!
I’m bouncing all of these qianqing scenarios around in my head but I’m also especially intrigued by a fy & lqq encounter. If lqq was already close with mq when he was put under house arrest, I don’t know if lqq would be able to ignore that— even if he was still hellbent on revenge against qr. Maybe lqq doesn’t recognize mq in fy’s form— his decision to help would come across as so much more sincere like that, I think. Mq isn’t even present but lqq— who is still so jaded by his own quest— still thinks so highly of mq,,,,,,, I think mq would be taken aback by the gesture. Meanwhile lqq knows what it’s like to be wronged and want to set things right— he can empathize.
I’m shaking your hands on the qiurong sentiments— again, I think it’s fun for people to explore ships however they want. I don’t really like it so I don’t really engage with it. They don’t scratch the right type of enemies to lovers tropes that I usually like and that’s okay! I’ll be peddling my lqq content off in the corner while people have fun in their spaces.
I think it’s okay and important to be selective about how you enjoy your media! Not every piece of art or fic was made to be universally enjoyed and that’s okay! Personally I’m with you on focusing on characterization— If I feel like my silly lil guys would not say the words being put in their mouths then usually I put what I’m looking at down and move onto something else.
We’re alike in side character enjoyment too LMAO. Not to analyze it too hard but— for me at least— I think it comes down to how much they have or have not been explored and the intrigue that comes with that possibility. In more deranged words: they’re chewier! It’s like you said— it’s fun to try and figure out how they would behave in unwritten scenarios.
I’m glad you liked my autumn wind piece!!! I’d never drawn sqx before so that was exciting. I’ve been quietly enjoying people’s reactions to it while hiding so many other lqq rarepair ideas in my pockets 🤫😂
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gloriousmonsters · 3 years
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honestly re ‘reading’ tgcf (jamie reading choice parts aloud in sequence as we both make commentary) has just convinced me further of my ‘he xuan’s revenge was kind of thrown together at the last minute’ theory (which i will be taking no criticisms on i’m not tagging this i just had the urge to write out my semiserious thoughts in a post. we good? okay)
because like. taking sqx to his tourist trap hometown to look at a cool spookyday parade that tells his backstory is inspired!
(it got a bit ruined by fucking xie lian who is now always around for some reason (seriously xl is ALWAYS showing up again during the black water arc and i honestly don’t blame hx for bopping him once. hua cheng you shouldn’t have punched him into the ground for that he DESERVED that one) but ANYWAY)
and then we go to the pavilion where sqx ascended. nice, nice. and tell him the truth...... uh........ somehow..... look, I’ll trust it was cool and effective due to how it wound up with sqx screaming in horror and all. sexy, inspired. and shi wudu’s locked him up! I fully believe that he xuan’s plan at this point looked something like
rescue sqx like a total badass, take him to nice quiet honeymoon cottage in the place none of the three tumors will go, maybe leave him there while you go kill shi wudu? like, SURELY he’ll get over it at this point. maybe even
if things seem good reveal yourself and then hold hands with sqx and maybe kill shi wudu TOGETHER?? but let’s not aim too high this is a stretch goal
but like, clearly he hates his brother now! this is fantastic! everything’s gonna go great revenge is awesome
but Then. sqx goes! to help! his shitty brother again! COMPLETELY DERAILING phase 2. you rented that honeymoon cottage for nothing. fuck this
but fine. okay. you can pivot. you can change up the plan you spent like 10 years coming up with. yes it wasn’t a very detailed plan but like, you have a lot going on. spying and sinking ships, etc, and sometimes you forget you actually have to decide on what you want to do for revenge, but WHATEVER. you drag everyone into your turf (surf?). you split up the group. you have a palace with shi qingxuan’s name on it and a prison with shi wudu’s. yes shi qingxuan has to have a brief time out in the jail first but that’s what you get for siding with shi wudu and insulting your shovel. anyway! draw up the distance shortening array, drop shi qingxuan in a nice palace room, now you can go hunt shi wudu for sport.
shi qingxuan leaves the room. you forgot he can do that
well you know, maybe you should figure out something else to do with him! you’re still very pissed that he sided with his horrible no-good brother, after all. of course you’d still rather stab yourself than so much as scratch him but it’s whatever.
shi wudu somehow figured out you’re sketch?
shi qingxuan is standing with his brother again and acting REALLY weird in general
you are having a very bad mental health day at this point
...you know what, fuck this, let’s ALL go to the cave where i’ve currently stashed my family’s urns, it’s as good a showdown place as any!
grab some of those haunted house actors you hired and tell them to babble and scamper and caress shi qingxuan a little bit but nothing below the belt or you Will kill them
(the ~crazy gross people~ hordes are deeply unfortunate and i will mentally rewrite them as i choose ok)
now you can at least force Shi Wudu to bow and apologize but honestly you’re not having that much fun at this point
Listen: the ‘ooh swap your brother’s fate with one of my curated weirdos’ thing makes WAY more sense to me if you assume... it was never something he xuan intended to happen. like, seriously, the process was something shi wudu did from heaven, quite probably with Ling Wen’s assistance. how’s he xuan gonna make him go through with it if he lets him go enough to do it in the first place? (for my sanity i assume that if sw wasn’t having his own mental breakdown he’d also have been like ‘wait’). but the thing is! he xuan does not want that to happen! i fully believe he’s lying through his teeth with both options, because he demonstrably wanted shi qingxuan to side with him (’I gave you chances!’) so like. here’s what the options actually are
shi wudu (bastard; incapable of finer feeling) shows his true evil colors and condemns his brother to have a horrible fate! by agreeing to swap his brother’s fate when his life was threatened, he’s shown that he clearly didn’t do it for sqx’s sake in the first place. sqx is shocked, realizes his brother is Evil, he and hx hold hands??? maybe we can get some use out of that honeymoon cottage after all
yeah we don’t think this one will work but it’d be nice to see sqx kill sw. sigh. obviously we’re not going to leave him alone afterward, though, it’s his first murder, he’ll be vulnerable and in need of comfort!
ALSO ACCEPTABLE: sqx goes ‘pls he-xiong spare my brother and i’ll do anything to pay for his crimes 🥺🥺 ANYTHING’ and then you can break out the villainous but oddly compelling offer of marriage
but instead the shi brothers just start CRYING all over each other and acting like they actually care about each other?? (with sqx specifically saying that only they care for each other and nobody else cares for either of them? OUCH) and despite ample opportunities sqx is barely trying to appeal to your relationship (you’re best friends! you even admitted it as the ~Reverend~ in that restaurant oh wait shit did you curse yourself a little bit) and not coming up with Any tearful but attractive offers of atonement. come the FUCK on
then shi wudu snaps and things kind of go to hell
yes this revenge is not very satisfying at this point but fuck him for pointing that out
and after hx gets mad enough to rip off sw’s head, we have... just a super awkward, not-a-bang-but-a-whimper finish. he takes sqx somewhere offscreen, and eventually dumps him half-heartedly in a big city to be a beggar or whatever
and genuinely I think a lot of the weird gaps and awkward joins and weak finishes of certain plots in this book are, doylistically, just... the product of tgcf being a WAY huger and more ambitious book than even mdzs, there’s bound to be more flaws, but watsonianly. hx’s plan for revenge, at the time he kicked it off, didn’t include sqx, up until the end he’s still giving sqx (confusing, unadvertised) chances to earn his mercy, and i think him dumping sqx and staying at an awkward distance from him afterward has less to do with revenge and vaguely promising he’d leave sqx alone if certain conditions were filled and more to do with him just not knowing what to do at that point.
he doesn’t want to hurt sqx (much) but after losing his temper and ripping off sw’s head in front of him sqx was just going limp, if he xuan kept him was he just going to keep being suicidal on him? can’t kill him can’t keep him prisoner don’t want to directly hurt him but you’re still mad at him ok i guess drop him in a homeless camp and stalk him from afar for a while. write an AITA post on reddit and then delete it. shi wudu died laughing and the cute one you wanted to keep and maybe learn to call you your actual name is severely depressed and terrified of you now. revenge sucks
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Hogwarts but make it MXTX characters.
Mdzs
Wei Ying - Gryffindor
Lan Zhan - Ravenclaw
Lan Xichen - Hufflepuff
Jiang Cheng - Slytherin
Yanli - Hufflepuff
Nie Huaisang - Ravenclaw
Meng Yao - Ravenclaw
Nie Mingjue - Gryffindor
Tgct
Xie Lian - Hufflepuff (but I the Hat almost put him in Gryffindor, he could be a Gryffindor too. He's literally half Hufflepuff (flower in one hand) and half Gryffindor (sword in another) but we gotta choose one)
San Lang - Slytherin
Shi Qing Xuan - Hufflepuff
Mu Qing - Gryffindor
Feng Xin - Hufflepuff
He Xuan - Slytherin
Pei Ming - Gryffindor
Zu Wu - Gryffindor (Headmaster)
SVSSS
Shen QingQiu - Slytherin
Luo Binghe - Hufflepuff
Wei wuxian, Xie Lian and Luo Binghe are friends. (They and Nie Huaisang and SQX and Jing Cheng are a pretty much a gang). They would be the three ya know that is always in the wrong place wrong hour. Wei Wuxian would take care of Binghe, like a older brother having but being the bad influence to him, meanwhile XL and Wei Ying would get along pretty well because they would never judge each other, XL be older brother and good influence for them.
San Lang, He Xuan and SQQ hang out together sometimes but mostly cause they're from the same house and SQQ is one of the only person that San Lang can stand(besides his lover XL ofc) and SQQ is all poker face and clever outside but inside he loves hang out with the bad boys that everyone is afraid of from the school, he feels so cool.
Pei Ming and Nie Mingjue are friends.
The Nie family all were from Gryffindor through generations, NM pick on Huaisang for don't be Gryffindor.
Mu Qing feel jealousy of Feng Xin and Xie Lian being from the same house, he feels left out sometimes.
Nie Huaisang keeps following and watching SQX because of their spiritual fan, he just wants one too. He and SQX are friends.
Wei Ying and Luo Binghe starts using dark magic in the fifth year. They're learning from San Lang.
The Headmaster (Zu Wu) makes Xie Lian life a living hell(Kinda Snape with Harry but worse or reversed Dumbledore) but because of this XL had faced multiple mosnters and saved the school many times become the school hero and mostly popular kid. Until he fails one day and becomes the school joke.
SQQ is a couple years older than Binghe, he saved his life and the boy started following him around and he kind allowed and let he grow on him and didn't noticed that every year the boy was more and more in love with him.
San Lang was the weird kid that got bullied from day one, Xie Lian was one year ahead and saved him multiple times, what made him admire and care for him, but San Lang couldn't saved him when they got in serious trouble with some monsters, so he decided be stronger, as he grows up he falls in love with XL and become powerful, even using dark magic, nobody bully him anymore, everyone is scared of him and he can finally protects his beloved.
When XL falls in love with him, Mu Qing and Feng Xin freak out "he's in love with you since the first Year, he's crazy", "He's Slytherin" "He uses dark magic".
Lan Zhan would ended up asking help for Xie Lian, (they're kinda friends because of Wei Ying friendship with XL) to try stop Wei Wuxian from using dark magic and get hurt, Xie Lian accepts but he knew that San Lang also used and he was okay with, so when they find out that Wei Ying is taking lesson from San Lan, things got complicated and weird. And once again XL is between his lover and his friends, cause Lan Zhan wants fights San Lang.
But later when Binghe and Wei Wuxian falls in some dark abys and disappear, presumably dead, XL feel guilty and many people blame him, cause they were always together and people thinks is his jobs save everyone all time. San Lang feel they could be alive, so he (Lan Zhan and SQQ) go after them. He only find them five years later, when they're no longer in school, and that would be another story...
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