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#Also look at how disney is on their way to ruin redlyn for me again catch them doing it AGAIN šŸ§ŽšŸ¼ā€ā™€ļøļæ¼
mazojo Ā· 2 years
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Oh worm I still cant stand Lily what a surprise what a shocker
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en-theheights Ā· 4 years
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All the problems with HSMTMTS:
I keep getting asked question on what happened in the fandom, and what is going on against all of the s*xual assault allegations against J*shua and T*m. This is going to be the post where I lay out all that I know of and inform the tumblr fandom on it because not all of you are on Twitter, and Tumblr is literally the heaven amongst fandoms. After this post, Iā€™m DONE talking about this show and being apart of this toxic group. Along with talking about theļæ¼ļæ¼ s*xual assault allegations, I will also be addressing the issues during the BLM movement and other crap that not only the cast and crew have been a part of, but also the fandom itself. Letā€™s dig in.
Sidenote: I really donā€™t want any hate, Iā€™m just trying to be open with you guys and inform you all. Also, Iā€™m doing my best to remember everything, so if there is something that you want to know more on then please just message me personally cause Iā€™m seriously SICK of discussing it publicly.
Not eveything in the fandom is due to JUST the cast and crew. This fandom is FULL of very toxic and creepy people.
A few months ago, someone (a grown women) who was overly obsessed with Olivia hacked into her grandfatherā€™s account to turn it into a fan page to get undercover information on Olivia, as well as getting information on where Olivia lived. This grown women has also done some other seriously inappropriate things. If you want to learn more about the sketchy things that this women has done than you can go to Twitter and look it up.
There are always ship wars in fandoms, but this one takes it WAY too seriously. Iā€™ve seen people get attack on their looks just for being a part of a ship. The ones that are heavily abusive are Rina vs Rini, Seblos vs CJ, and redlyn vs Redky. It has cause people to leave the fandom due to how bad the attacking got. On Tumblr, everyoneā€™s pretty open about ships, but on twitter it is a literal battle field.
Disgraceful people still continue to ship the actors instead of the characters. J*livia and J*fia is what Iā€™m going to talk more closely about. (First, josh is a grown adult and both Sofia and Olivia are minors, please unfollow me if you donā€™t see anything wrong with that). Sofia had to delete a few of her tik toks after one with Joshua went viral and people wouldnā€™t stop shipping her and him in her comments. Like one video she did, the caption was ā€œI want a boyfriendā€ and people assumed they were dating and wouldnā€™t stop tagging him in her videos. As for Olivia, people have been shipping them since the beginning of the show. Fan accounts on all platforms have dedicated their time to this. I donā€™t necessarily remember if Sofia or Olivia came out saying that they were uncomfortable when they got shipped with their cast mates, but it started causing drifts between the actors because of this and Joshua wasnā€™t featured in any of Sofiaā€™s videos after that and Olivia didnā€™t post as much as she use to with him. It goes to show that shipping actors makes things awkward and strained within their personal relationships. DONT DO THIS!
A person stating that they were friendā€™s with Olivia came out to expose Joshua of being a bad boyfriend after she tells everyone that Olivia and Joshua has been secretly dating during the press tour of HSMTMTS. There was clever evidence that showed they were dating and the girl came out with multiple receipts, and even went so far as to go on Instagram live to speak on the matter. But she then came out stating that it was false and she only wanted some attention. Apparently she was a j*livia stan. I canā€™t find anything on twitter about it anymore, since Iā€™m pretty sure eveything was deleted. This can ruin peopleā€™s careers and I donā€™t know why anyone could think itā€™s okay. ļæ¼
There are genuinely a lot of creepy adults that roam around in the HSM fandom. On twitter, there would be grown adults writing in detail how the kissing scene between Joshua and Olivia made them feel. People continue to post the gif of Nini and Ricky kissing and write out why itā€™s so important to them. People have taken that kissing scene and literally turned it into nasty and inappropriate sm*t on AO3 and Wattpad. Note once again that these characters are minors and itā€™s NEVER okay to write inappropriate stories about children. Grown adults need to be held accountable for their actions if this is how theyā€™re acting.
Some parts of the fandom genuinely hate on both Sofia and Olivia for literally nothing. Just jealousy between their ships, and because of it, they think itā€™s okay to to personally attack the actresses on their looks and where they are in there careers. People continuously pin Olivia and Sofia against each other, like for example people bashing Olivia for not being as successful as Sofia, or Sofia being bashed because she doesnā€™t have the same singing career as Olivia. Itā€™s once again, DISGUSTING!
This one is more about Disney and then not doing their part. Disney cut out the majority of Seblosā€™ scenes, which caused a lot of turmoil within the fandom and why Seblos felt unattached and awkward while they were together in all of their scenes after the dance episode. People called out Disney and said they they shouldnā€™t have put Seblos in if they werenā€™t going to go full out with it.
Onto the cast and the crew:
Kate (miss Jenn) got a lot of hate for exposing that Frankie (Carlos) and Joe(Seb) are in an actual real life relationship without asking them for their consent to tell the world. Donā€™t know whether they had spoken about them being in a relationship or not, but Kate didnā€™t speak on it after that either.
A video came out a few days ago of the cast taking cast pictures during their tour, and Mark (Mr. Mazzara) was standing beside Sofia in which it looks like his hand was rubbing Sofiaā€™s lower back, and she seemed uncomfortable. Iā€™m not sure if itā€™s a stretch or not because the video is super blurry and itā€™s hard to kind of see their faces, but you can clearly see his hand go behind her back. Personally for me, I didnā€™t notice anything too alarming, but youā€™d have to see for youself. I wonā€™t be posting that and instead you can dm me personally and Iā€™ll send you the link to the video.
A past comment of Joshuaā€™s was exposed in which he is saying the F slur. #joshuabassettisoverparty was trending world wide on Twitter, with people wanting him off the show. He has apologized for it since then, but not many ever forgave him and it was just really his young girl audience that came to his defense, even though it wasnā€™t their apology to forgive. People that only stan him because he is a cute cis white male didnā€™t see the problem in what he had said, and kept saying that he was young and that itā€™s not a reason for us to hate on him, but he was only 17 when he said that, and itā€™s no excuse. Personally to me, his apology was super bland and he didnā€™t address it personally on his Twitter, but instead replied to a post saying heā€™d do better. Hereā€™s what he had said:
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Here is his apology on this:
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Joshua also went on a live in which he said ā€œboys, gals, or whateverā€ People accused him of being transphobic and enbyphobic. Others think that his words were being blown out of proportion. Here is that video:
I found it to be very ridiculous and rude that he doesnā€™t follow anybody on twitter or tik tok. On a live video, Julia said something about him not following her, and he just says that he doesnā€™t follow anybody and she shouldnā€™t take it personally. Honestly not that big of a deal, but itā€™s still shows pitifullness and arrogancy. Donā€™t know what his contract looks like with whatever agency heā€™s with, but maybe theyā€™re just strict on that, but idk.
People hate on Matt (EJ) for being republican. He hasnā€™t done anything problematic or said anything out of offense, so for me heā€™s good. UPDATE: Turns out, Matt is friends with Benjamin Lawson Adams, a convicted pedophile. Hereā€™s a brief statement in what happened:
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He worked for the Weinstein company, so no surprise there. His arrest happened in May 2016, and his license was suspended to practice Law in July of 2018. If Matt knew what was best for him, he would stop having any and all associations with this dude.
Thatā€™s all I can think of on situations not regarding the s*xual assault allegations or the BLM movement. But thereā€™s probably so much Iā€™m missing. Iā€™m going to make a part 2, cause the next half is too long to post here as well. Iā€™ll label it #exposinghsmtmts so others are able to see it.
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