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#I don't even think the torture dungeon has enough evidence to really consider in the novel and its not even mentioned in the show
llycaons · 7 months
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im finally feeling awake now so @pharahsgf this is the post I was talking about
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foolish. reductive. immature. disrespectful. willfully ignorant. WRONG
#I have had this person blocked ever since they said they were into xi//cheng#but I wish I could block them again just for this. it's so stupid and indicitive of all the most annoying misconceptions#first of all pretending that jc and wwx are still at the same emotional and social and moral level postres#when jc not changing/remaining static is one of THE most important part of his charact#and wwx changing and developing and growing up is so significant esp postres when he's wiser and quieter and more mature#even in the flashback arcs he doesn't dwell on his torture of the wens he doesn't 'love it' he doesn't brag about it#he doesn't ever WANT to do it again he clearly just wants to put it behind him#he's done bad things in the past and he wants ppl like xy to pay but that doesn't mean he endorses torture#AND it brings in the fiction that wwx is or needs to be protective of jc when postres he's the one who needs protection FROM jc#like yeah im sure after the verbal assaults and the triggering of his phobia and the physical attacks#he's just rushing to throw himself in front of jc to protect him from dcs#it just plays into jc stans' misconceptions that wwx is happy to sacrifice everything for jc and always will and therefore SHOULD#because ohh everything is about jc and everyone loves him. literally not true to any version of canon#I don't even think the torture dungeon has enough evidence to really consider in the novel and its not even mentioned in the show#but his unilateral violence towards people he suspects of being DCs is visible in literally the second episode#and idk why wwx would just start to 'love' that violence and aggression when it was once pointed at him#especially when he has the option to instead spend time with people who have never tortured anyone suspected of doing some vague bad thing#okay I'm done! I'm done. this got me soo mad though what a stupid fucking post#cql txp
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powdermelonkeg · 3 years
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What are some random headcanons you have? (for any zelda game)
I'm going to go all out with this one and talk about Arbiter's Grounds. Specifically, its architecture.
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See, this structure here is a fascinating study, because the amount of effort put into it gives us insight into TWO histories.
So, what is Arbiter's Grounds? Put simply, a torture chamber.
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We have spikes impaling skulls, traps around every corner, undead crawling the halls, and at its heart, the Hyrulean equivalent to capital punishment.
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But also, strangely, we have religious carvings in here as well.
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This is the Gerudo goddess of sand; Geluda. We've only ever seen her in Ocarina of Time, in the Desert Colossus.
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So why is she here, in a torture dungeon of all places? And why, also, is she in a place utilized by the Hyruleans, who don't worship her in any capacity?
If we look really closely at Arbiter's Grounds, we see something incredibly interesting.
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We have this new-ish looking, gold-edged, geometric Hyrulean architecture, like the kind that we see in the Temple of Time.
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And the patterns don’t really match the normal parts of the temple.
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Even if you look at the gold-edged pillars, they’ve been modified. Compare the Hyrulean marks on the gold to the squiggles on the stone, like in the above picture.
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The letters here don’t spell anything, but they LOOK Hylian.
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Just glancing through it, I can see  half of an L, a Z, and a W.
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And if you look closely, the Royal Crest on this doorway has been fixed OVER images of the sage medallions
You can find more evidence of the medallions near the roof of Arbiter’s Grounds in almost every room, in Hyrulean gold.
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We know that this place is where you meet the sages when you go to find the mirror. But why here? Why put the spirits of Hyrule’s holy in a death prison?
Here’s what I think. The only Gerudo we ever see is Ganondorf in this game.
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Aside from him, nothing. No camps, no prisoners, no cities, nothing. We maybe have Telma, and she’s unconfirmed.
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But they’re in later games, and none of the skulls in the traps look human-like. So they weren’t executed for losing the war, which was my first thought when considering Arbiter’s Grounds.
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The desert stretches well off into the distance, so it’s a safe enough assumption to say that they left the area to avoid war with Hyrule, leaving their temple behind.
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The Hylians commandeered it to use as their execution grounds, giving it its name. It was the Hylians that came after that installed all the traps, and the people foolish enough to try stealing from the death trap wound up as the stalfos and redeads you come across.
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It’s adding insult to injury, taking Ganondorf’s people’s sacred temple and defacing it in the wake of their war. The only minor consolation we have is that it’s not the first time it’s been used this way.
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