#I think it does come down to a... doylist versus watsonian approach?

[elviriel]

respectfully, i don't think you can compare it to brasso's death. yeah, Andor is the Everyone dies show. I don't think anyone was expecting Cinta to miraculously survive to the end when nobody else likely will- I definitely wasn't- but it's about the manner in which it happened. It's just, I've seen before, to an extent that's actually eerie and by that i mean, this exact scenario. Women in love part ways and reunite; they spend the night together only for one of them to immediately die from a bullet that's not meant for her.

And that may be what it comes down to! It's possible that for those who haven't witnessed the trope before, then Cinta's death doesn't hit you in its specificity. That being said, it's also a trope that's well documented, and that's faced plenty of backlash before, so you would think the Andor creative team would be at least aware of it. I do understand the point that Cinta's death was making within the narrative. But on a meta level, I don't think it's out of pocket to be disappointed in the creative team for not having the foresight to circumvent That Trope, especially when Andor is that good of a show! They clearly know what they're doing and have approached everything skillfully so far, so it does bother me that they walked right, and i mean right, into the trope.

It's not like SW is full of queer women, so yeah, I can't help but think there was a way to do better here.

Guys. Killing Cinta was not an example of bury your gays. That trope takes place when a gay character's death is metatextually treated as less important than a het character's. The unimportance of deaths in the pursuit of the rebellion is literally a central theme in this show!!! Cinta is the EIGHTH named rebel to die in this show!!! Not to mention Kreegr's men, or even the Narkina escapees. Every single one of these characters will die an uncelebrated yet ultimately important death in the pursuit of freedom!! Yes, killing a character after they've had a chance to be openly gay is a trope but they're treating it no differently than Brasso's death last arc. He too found love, and it didn't save him. The camera doesn't even link her death to vel in any way- her death is another symbolic death representing the danger of disorganization, infighting, naivety, not following orders, etc. Yes I wish some gay characters would get to survive onscreen and even live a happy life. But you're looking for it in the wrong show.