#Watch web developers absoloutely squander it

[osakanone]

Engineer moment.

They're talking about how it renders text, how it feels to scroll its back/forward and rendering behavior, not how it looks. Things which are harder to describe and more ephemeral to the user-experience.

A big part of this is websites being optimized for chromium, but not for gecko.

Many users will never encounter slowness per-say, because either their system is fast enough or their configuration is light and appropriate enough for their system -- but the clunkiness is unavoidable.

Scrolling genuinely "doesn't feel right". Text doesn't look right. Websites don't look right.

I have a pretty decent system, with more RAM than firefox will ever need and to this day I only ever use it for video to do multiple picture in picture if a major political event is being streamed from multiple sources like the Russian invasion of Ukraine and I need 30+ video feeds on six monitors -- because it handles video really, really well and multi-PIP is the most efficient screenuse.

Outside of that, I've genuinely found no use for Firefox since I often have three or four windows open, each with maybe 30 tabs each.

Firefox just doesn't cut it for my usecase.

A major problem Firefox has culturally is people who just really like the software and cannot imagine anybody feeling any different about it.

Maybe out of preference, maybe because they like open source, but a lot of people using Firefox and developing Firefox don't accept that Firefox can be meaningfully improved -- and so, Firefox is not improved.

This fact is why I don't use Firefox anymore.

I don't see a future for it as anything other than the symbolic competition kept alive by Google's money so that Google isn't swallowed alive by anti-trust laws.

I don't see it getting better. Problems I have posted years ago have gone unaddressed, because "things are fine as they are".

My problem overall with open source is it claims to be a vision of what computers could be and instead chooses to be a flanderization of many of the worst tendencies of software development.

Its an incredibly beautiful promise but it is very rarely kept.

Maybe it excels on some technical level but is painful to use. Maybe its pretty, but its incredibly fragile. Maybe its robust and pretty and good to use, but it runs like dog-snot.

There just always seems to be some sort of weird monkeys paw deal with a lot of projects, some sort of suck that you just have to accept.

On the bright side, open source projects are immortal. They mean no matter what happens, something will live on forever, and that is something I do appreciate.

"Firefox sucks" "firefox is clunky" "firefox doesn't work" with all due respect what the fuck are you talking about