#advent children spoilers

[finallyfantasy7]

SEPHIROTH: Tell me what you cherish most. Give me the pleasure of taking it away.

CLOUD STRIFE: I pity you. You just don't get it at all. There's not a thing I don't cherish!

[looliuus-epic-gaming]

what is up with any other ff7 media fundamentally misunderstanding the themes of the original game. like why are crisis core and advent children trying to romanticize stuff like aerith and zacks deaths. wasnt the whole point that theres no glory in war? when did we decide that these characters entire purposes are to be a plot device just for cloud to have more problems to deal with

[priceofreedom]

Advent Children vs. Final Fantasy VII: Rebirth

[lisutarid-a]

[hollow-vergil]

[pearl-aqua-fantasy]

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[protemporescitor]

Headcanon it how you like. Play with (and fetishize) your toys as you wish. But if you genuinely believe that Cloud Strife is "weak", you are objectively a stupid person.

[the-fandom-crossroads]

Just finished rewatching Advent Children with bro and wow that explained a lot more than I thought it would. Bro had never seen it and I remembered the white void showing up there and that the 3 villains were sephiroth clones. I completely forgot the other hints towards Remake.

But Spoilers for Remake and Rebirth I guess?

I now understand why everyone insists Remake Sephiroth is Advent Children Sephiroth. Like the exact same monologue about going to space with cloud. And Advent Children was him revealing this new bigger plan to cloud. If Remake Sephiroth was the original VII sephiroth he should still just want to use meteor because it's "mother's" will.

But like all that is old news for folks who remembered Advent Children when playing through Remake 4 years ago.

I think the things Rebirth builds on about the lifestream is more interesting. The pond that forms in Aerith's church in AC is a natural mako spring like the countless ones we find in rebirth. Flowers are able to grow there long after Aerith's death because of this spring just below the surface.

When Cloud "dies" in Advent Children he meets Aerith and Zack in the white void before they decide to put him back. He's released from the lifestream in the natural mako spring now in Aerith's church just like how Tifa is tossed back out when she enters with the whale.

Again for anyone who's recently watched AC it's obvious the white void is meant to represent the lifestream. But that means Rebirth is confirming the Lifestream is a bridge between the different universes. Zack enters the Lifestream and runs into Remake cloud who's also been pulled in. AC is all about how Sephiroth is still in the lifestream and that's how Kadaj is able to be possessed by him once he has enough Jenova cells. Cloud kills Sephiroth putting him back in the Lifestream. The Lifestream that connects all vii worlds.

AC Sephiroth then uses the lifestream to start appearing before a Cloud that has only just reached Midgar. His Meddling summons the whispers which fight back to keep things to the "cannon" timeline. Sephiroth of course tricks team Avalanche into destroying the head Whisper allowing him to take control of them. Again old news for anyone that knew Sephiroth wanted them to break the bonds of Fate.

But if Sephiroth is using the lifestream to mess with other worlds. it shouldn't be a surprise one of the Aerith's also already in the lifestream got involved too. As other's have pointed out the Aerith that gives cloud the not empty White materia isn't remake Aerith. But another Aerith that pulled him into that universe to give him a functioning white materia. But somehow Remake Aerith knew the hand over happened? Because in the white forest she asks cloud for the materia and they swap so she has a functioning white materia. That part confuses me a little. How did our Aerith know the handoff happened?

Also Rufus and Kadaj have a conversation about how everything's a cycle. That Jenova "Mother" will always try to destroy the planet and the lifestream/humanity will always fight back. Made me realize AC Sephiroth wasn't going back on his timeline to make a new one but hopping into the next timeloop. OG VII and Advent Children's cannon is locked in. Remake is truely that a remaking of the timeline made possible by Cloud and Co defeating the whispers that enforce the timeloops. So now instead of one spiral after another and infinite number of spirals are forming while the remake loop is still happening.

That's why Sephiroth waited until the *spoilers* cannon event to appear in Rebirth. It's an all the stars a line situation. All timeloops have that moment, regardless of how it's different in different versions.

But Rebirth's cannon event was just a test run. Sephiroth wanted to see how much power he could gain just from multiple timelines merging at one point.

Sephiroth already told us what he really wants. The Black materia but not the one from the remake universe no the ultimate black materia forged from all the black materia. And what's the next big plot point that could be a cannon event? Cloud's breakdown at the northern crater after handing the Black Materia over to Sephiroth. If there's any point where the timelines would over lap it would be there. We already saw the power boost Sephiroth got. If that power boost happens to the black Materia yeah that's a multiverse destroying meteor right there.

Wow was that a long wall of text about stuff everyone else probably already knows. But I just had to put all the clarity Advent Children gave me about Remake and Rebirth somewhere. Expect a spiral timeline graphic in the future. Cause I feel like i'm forgetting to explain some of it right.

[breakfastteatime]

Just found one of my favourite pieces of music from Advent Children in Rebirth, being performed by a choir in Cosmo Canyon (⁠╥⁠﹏⁠╥⁠)

(It's The Promised Land if anyone's keen to hear the whole thing)

[oveliagirlhaditright]

Inspired by Final Fantasy Peasant's girlfriend, Bri (who I don't think has her own YouTube channel that I can link here, but please correct me if I'm wrong): who in her stream of Final Fantasy XVI said that the segment where Clive hears all of his companions cheering him on while he fought Ultima, reminded her of when Cloud's party helped him to get to Bahamut SIN in Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children. And I think she was absolutely right about that.

[lildogie]

4 years late to the party playing FFVII Remake, and I have meta theories and shit, but I want to avoid spoilers for Rebirth, since I haven't started it, so this is a completely content-free post, but... Have you noticed Barret doing that little hip tilt? He's buffer than my usual type, but then he does this little hip tilt, very subtle, and I'm like, Well, hello, don't you have a neat little waist, darling. Look how nicely those cargo pants are tailored around your hips... Also Barret is a good father, and I lowkey find that attractive. And his sorta bashful post-victory dialog is kind of adorable. What the fuck, Remake Project, are you giving me the hots for Barret? How dare you.

[priceofreedom]

Advent Children and Rebirth parallels

[lisutarid-a]

[whimsical-bee]

Watching from beyond the lifestream...

Started this piece back in 2020 and now finally got around to finishing it after watching the end to FF7- Rebirth..

[willosword]

wow what a perfectly normal and inconspicuous choice of words! surely this won't have any extreme thematic and narrative significatell me what you cherish most,,,,😈 give me the pleasure of taking it away...? 😏 i Pity you 😒 you just dont get it at all..... 😔there's not a thing i DONT cherish

[katvara]

Why is this my first thought??