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#also I'm sorry for the shit with your frieds must've been annoying
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Could it be that part of the reason you dislike aroace Albedo headcanon might be related to the autism headcanon? Because like. I can see two things related to it that would prickle. One- infantilization. It’s unfortunate but it happens a lot- especially with questioning gender, sexuality and such. I’ve had my own gosh darn friends do it to me, calling me an innocent bean and the thing of oh neurodivergent people don’t want/like/understand romantic or sexual things is. Frustrating.
Similarly- I can see a secondary angle but more in the Alhaitham one- where it’s mischaracterizing a character because obviously he just doesn’t like people/is a jerk because he couldn’t possibly pick up on cues! Much less to realize someone likes him! Which is. Also frustrating. Albedo reads to me as a soft spoken introvert. While I’m all for aroace head canons- and it can be very interesting to explore- sometimes there’s some unfortunate overlap between tropes. Like, neurodivergence/asexuality being represented by robots. Like they whole not human thing because you’re missing something intrinsic to what makes someone human.
Sorry for rambling. Sometimes stuff just bugs us, and sometimes there’s an underlying thing that makes it feel uncomfy, at least in my experience.
A part of it yeah.
It's both the autism and the introversion. Unfortunately a lot of sexuality hc are less based on the character but just the stereotype (like introvert=ace fun and chipper=pan ect) and like.... I'm not gonna go to specific people and point it out before it's probably just their actual HC and shit.
But yeah... Yeah... We don't gotta make the flirty onw bi every time while the copper one gets pan. Kaeya is a little bit bi imo but like, not just because of his flirtyness, you know? And also I'm firm in my demi Kaeya agenda because it's a thing.
I'm not sure if it's infantilization with Albedo specifically since it's a very hit and cold situation with neurotypicals HCing him. Either really sex repulsed or really into freaky ass sex. It is a problem, infantilization in fandom, but I think it may affect other neurodiverse coded characters like Sucrose more.
I do think it's just... The fundamental way in which they misunderstand his ability to socialize. Like he isn't shy, exactly, he will be able to talk back to people and won't turn into a putty in social situations. But he doesn't seek them out unless he finds the person interesting.
He has friends, he can make friends easily, heck! He had Tighnari and Cyno both wrapped around his finger in less than a day. But for some reason the fact that he can't KEEP a relationship or doesn't have a large friend group to them means he does not like people?
Which does not seem to be the case at all.
Also yeah, the mixing of tropes is often really weird. Between neurodivergence (but autism specifically and most of the time) and aceness.
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Ava: Sorry but you can try and come for the 👑 after I tell you Ava: So they get current pupils to show you around, do the tour, answer questions, do the whole programme with you, right? Ava: Must be good extra credit or whatever, anyway Ava: There's this guy, and the whole time there's this total...vibe, you know? And I'm not delusional or sad like that, its an actual thing but I know him, know of him Ava: so I know why I should just ignore it, but instead when everyone is out, I DM him Grace: excuse you bitch I'm literally reformed but like putting that ASIDE cos this is so much more IMPORTANT!😱😱 Grace: so are we talking a phoneful of regret or IRL walk of shame? 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