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#and Caeneus is not an obscure figure. he was an Argonaut!
aroaceleovaldez · 2 years
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yall dont wanna see the rant i just went on trying to math out if Clarisse and Silena = Achilles and Patroclus, then does the Battle for Manhattan in TLO = the Trojan War, and in which case who’s who. is the Titan Army the Trojans? or is Olympus the Trojans because they’re defending Olympus (i.e. Trojans defending Troy)? If Percy is also Achilles, kinda, cause curse of Achilles, what’s everybody’s roles then? What do we do with two Achilles? is Ethan Nakamura Hector? Does Luke = Paris? (in which case Hermes = Priam? which actually works really well cause Hermes did aid Priam in the Trojan war). or is Luke... Helen? Or is Luke just straight up the Trojan Horse?
Also side-tangent, if Clarisse and Silena are Achilles and Patroclus, we can make some guesses for who Chris Rodriguez vaguely is analogous to, but not really Charles Beckendorf? at least purely in terms of love interests. Which is interesting. Again: who’s who. I simply must know.
#pjo#percy jackson#riordanverse#analysis#there's also a whoooole lot of Percy and Nico in the Underworld = Caeneus in the rant#but that's besides the point i've gone on that rant enough times#though i do think its interesting in a manner of if it is an intentional parallel (which is very possibly is!)#then it implies that Rick started leaning more into Nico being canonically romantically interested in Percy back in TLO#which would make sense given you also have Clarisse and Silena as Achilles and Patroclus *very* explicitly in the same book#and whereas Achilles and Patroclus being lovers is a debated topic - Caeneus' romance is as far as im aware undisputed#(probably primarily because Caeneus was a woman for most of it)#and like from book one Rick referenced myths like Ganymede#so like. i dont think the whole ''greek mythology had a lot of gay stuff' was going over his head or anything#and Caeneus is not an obscure figure. he was an Argonaut!#and the Argonauts were. yknow. the entire basis for the second series. and also a good amount of SoM#there was also a lot of ''Does Nico = Orpheus?'' and How Many Times Did Nico Pull An Orpheus (the answer is like. 2. maybe 3.)#(maybe 4 actually)#regardless Nico has fully exhausted Most Orpheus Myths so theoretically they shouldn't come back.#[I AM LOOKING VERY HARD AT THE NICO BOOK. DO NOT DO THE THING I SWEAR I WILL BE MAD.]#not because ''oh no tragedy'' because i KNOW it's gonna turn out fine and Different This Time and ill just be mad#because it got overused cause WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT SPECIFIC PART LIKE. TWICE. IN THE FIRST SERIES. GET OUTTA HERE.#anyways options for if the Argo 2 members represent Argonauts then Who Orpheus - Piper. Leo. Nico.#i personally prefer Piper best for thematic reasons but Leo could also fit and Nico is really trying on the myth-reenactment-front#and also being the mopey guy on the Argo ruining the vibes for everyone cause he's busy being heartbroken and emo#he hasn't been torn limb from limb and his immortal severed head turned into a speaker for his parents to listen to tunes from though#so really Nico are you even trying? (the ''parents-grant-immortality-after-death'' thing though is also a Nico-pulls-an-Orpheus moment tho)
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