#and also from whaf i see I'm a super old fan and I'm exactly soccer mom age
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#for soccer moms#i like a band that gets slagged off on for a thing a member said a long time ago and i mesn like over a decade#and that by words action personal behavior and financial support#by every means that i can think of#the person and the group has shown that they have not only grown but completely changed for real#and to me that kind of growth is really meaningful and also a good example for others whose hearts need setting right#and is also a bit healing for the demographic#and like you don't have to forgive someone for something that hurt or betrayed you but also like#im seeing people who were in their single or very early double digits say bad shit about them#and it's obvious they were not following what happened back then snd have just seized a way to take a stand against SOMETHING#in a very accessible way#to distance themselves from those beliefs#and they also get to use this chance to say this group has terrible music which they sinply DON'T#so they take their swings and sometimes I feel like the latter hit that they find more satisfying#and it just annoys me on both counts#people change and also music that is catchy and easy to sing along to isn't inherently bad or shallow even when it's#babes who brought you up if not middle-aged women and do you really think their interests and inner lives are also unimportant and shallow#and also from whaf i see I'm a super old fan and I'm exactly soccer mom age#idk it just annoys the shit out of me#idk it's just really weird is all#i don't like hearing people who sound like the little dweebs who tried to bully me in school over my music AND#who sound like hypocrites for their outrage over an insult to their community when they won't listen to the adults in that community#their own elders whose advice is desperately needed and who are the ones who drove for what rights we have and are front of the lines still#it's so shallow and obvious and frankly gross#eta: i looked it up and it was 16 years ago holy shit#redemption arc beginning about two years later WOW#no this is not about whatever band you think it is and I'm not telling#i really promise it isn't them
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