#and that when u talk to the city itself through shivers the camera shifts up to darkness of the rafters
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i don't have a solid theory on anything but i think shivers is real and connected to the pale somehow
#it speaks#idk i was just talking to the paledriver and was reminded that she also has shivers#i need to go back through all of joyce's and tiago's dialogue and see if there's any evidence of it there too#but there's also the fact that harry can recognize the 2mm hole as pale#and that when u talk to the city itself through shivers the camera shifts up to darkness of the rafters#where it also goes when it shows where the hole is#and shivers definitely tells harry things he wouldn't otherwise know#and there's the thing dolores dei's assassin says about needing to let us discover things for ourselves#there's something here i think i just. don't know how to fit the pieces together
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