#ann is mary-ann. 'mary-ann' is mary-ann. sandrone is mary-ann

[mtkanna]

once again i am thinking about the fact that jakob only uses rene's name on the eve of his return, and narzissenkreuz only goes by rene because that's how mary-ann recognises him, and narzissenkreuz never once mentions jakob by name... how at the start of the quests it's mary-ann whose absence is most keenly felt, but by the end it is alain who seems to have shaped the world the most, and yet we never get to see (excluding neuvillette's cutscene, of course.) is it guillotin's world in that alain was the one whose ideals best shaped it, or guillotin's world in that everything comes back to mary-ann at the end?

[byorkewkew]

[bugmartyr]

YOU ARE NO ONE'S SHADOW AND IT WEEPS.

[blood-orange-juice]

There's something to be said about how we never find Mary-Ann, only other people's dreams of her. Fragments.

Both Rene and Ann muse that maybe Mary-Ann never existed, and in a sense it's true. There obviously was a girl once, but that girl is not what any of them are searching for, not really.

[glitter-bunny420]

I’m sorry but these two have to be the same person. I refuse to believe their visual similarities are just a coincidence. I know people have said the same about Baizhu and Pantalone but their similarities were only face shape, hairstyle and glasses. Sandrone is literally just Mary-Ann but taller and with extra strands of hair.

“But Mary-Ann’s consciousness was absorbed by Lyris!” Yes, but Alain, Mary-Ann’s brother, is capable of creating intelligent machines such as Seymour, so who’s to say Sandrone wasn’t originally a robot clone of Mary-Ann? It would explain her fascination with automatons. Hell, her code name Marionette literally means “little Mary” in French. And which nation is based on France? Fontaine, where Mary-Ann lived!

If they aren’t the same person, I’m gonna be so pissed.

[sandy-shocks]

Honestly I ship furina with any woman that treats her nice ngl lol

[electric-hydrangea]

haha Narzissenkreuz Ordo right... i made this in one sitting

[oceancracker]

girl help why do i feel compelled to like. replay the entire damn game to make sense of the narzissenkreuz world quest. every time i google something abt it and start seeing things i dont recognize i cant even tell if its a spoiler or just something i forgot

[arledrone]

anyone else feeling extremely normal about sandrone this fine december

[azaenya]

A question for all the Genshin lore nerds:

What is the significance of Alain Guillotin's last name?

Apparently people say that he was named after Joseph Ignace Guillotin, who wanted humane ways to administer the death penalty. But like... That has nothing to do with in-game him??

It's like... Geppetto was right there. If you don't know, Geppetto was the fictional creator of Pinocchio, which would have made a nice parallel with Sandrone, especially if you go the modern renditions of how Geppetto made Pinocchio out of grief for his dead son, just like how Alain did the same thing for Mary-Ann.

So I'm wondering if there was a reason for Alain's surname that outweighed the literary reference

[mtkanna]

i can't really see any possibility for sandrone other than her being a recreation of mary-ann. she's active in fontaine, has an interest in mechanics and machine development, and experimented on ruin machines from khaenri'ah--just as we know alain did. she has a vested interested in preserving meka that express sentient thought, or something close enough to it. her appearance matches young mary-ann's incredibly closely, from the shade of her hair and eyes and dress to even the way her hair is styled.

if we take each different version of mary-ann to represent a single part of a greater whole, she fits in perfectly. ann is the preserved form of their childhood, young and still learning, at the heart of her own story. 'mary-ann' is the part of herself that agreed with jakob and rene and lyris, that feared the future and dying and longed to hold onto her childhood home and her childhood friends. so sandrone could be the part of mary-ann that was active in the institute and that joined the marechaussee hunters, that researched mechanics alongside her brother, who tried, in her own way, to safeguard the future.

[stillgrows]

lots of thoughts about sandrone and the male gaze and the way men innately objectify women no matter how close they are/how pure their love. thoughts on identity and autonomy.

[xiaomercy]

"Girl That You Love" Alain Guillotin/Mary-Ann Guillotin (Sandrone)

Warnings: Sibling Incest

Word Count: 3.0k

Summary: Alain has spent years grieving in his own special way… By building back his sister. Her cable muscles, keratinized dermis, light-sensitive nanowires; they are all beautiful aspects of her. She was just like how he remembered. Through this time spent with her, he's developed complicated feelings, and now he can't hold back any longer.

Originally Posted on AO3 Feb 2024

[blood-orange-juice]

You get a piece of Mary-Ann! And you get a piece of Mary-Ann! Everyone gets a piece of Mary-Ann!

[solns]

i know i sound crazy but im all for that theory about the marionette being a doll like katheryne and is a spitting image of the deceased mary-ann from the narzissenkreuz quest and how sandrone is out researching curve's ability to feel human emotions. sandrone is a dude in the commedia dell'arte-- the theory of alain guillotin being the big guy carrying the marionette is just sooooo gooood!!

like we can still have marionette as the waifu who ultimately becomes autonomous and sandrone being the fabled alain!!! lord artifcer? MORE LIKE LORD HARBINGER. I'M INHALING COPIUM BUT MAKE IT A REALITY!! PLEASE, HOYO.

[sandy-shocks]

Sandrone x Furina headcanons?

They're kinda angsty I guess

I believe with what we've been told about Alain Guillotin and his research that the secret creation he made before he died was Sandrone and he successfully put the memories of Mary Ann in her in an attempt to bring his sister back in some way

Mary Ann when she was still alive became a member of the Marechausse Phantom who report directly to Neuvillette. I like to think Furina knew them too and combined with my other headcanon of Furina being interested in clockwork devices (this has a few canon hints too) I headcanon she was somewhat friends with Mary Ann (as much of a friend as Furina could allow herself) and they would talk meka related things and fix up Seymour and stuff like that

Anyway all this to say I think Furina seeing Sandrone would trigger her memories of Mary Ann and the time they spent together, and Sandrone would also remember all that stuff. Furina wondering who the hell this person who looks exactly like Mary Ann is and trying to find that out and get close to her. But Sandrone isn't Mary Ann she's just a meka copy of her and would insist that it wasn't her who Furina was friends with, she's not her. Both of them having identity issues, they could be not so alone in that together

Also Sandrone is a Harbinger and Furina has nothing but bad experiences with those so far so that could add a bit more interest to it