#another difference between S!Fingon and H!Fingon:

[fuckingfinwions]

i find it pretty fascinating how in the harem!au fingon is less obivously pissed off about everything but does help his kids+idril+finrod escape (and do they ever end up rescuing him?) and in the servant!au he is obviously not happy abt the horrors of his life but he doesn't quite do anything as big/drastic. also i cant help but think that they wouldnt get along very well bc they wouldnt understand each other?

Harem AU Fingon doesn't actually feel that his life is that bad or his safety is ever threatened. Sure, he has to have painful or unpleasant sex sometimes, but that only takes a few hours a week. Most of the sex he has isn't his idea but is enjoyable, or is even sex that he initiates (with the other Bastards or the Princes). And even that doesn't take up all his time, so most of his day is his own. He can read, or play his harp, or exercise in the courtyard, or chat with the Princes or other Bastards, or lounge in the bath doing nothing at all. He can ask the servants to buy him books or games or new fancy clothes, and he'll usually get them. (Requests are written, so Feanor can review them and the Bastards can't conspire with the servants, but Feanor sees no reason for his harem to be unhappy.)

Sure, any activity that Fingon starts might be interrupted by one of the Feanorians sticking their cock in his face, or demanding he follow them to their bedroom, or just declaring they need a fourth person for cards and he's it. But it still seems like a very nice life to Fingon, especially with no other experience to compare it too.

As far as Harem!Fingon can tell, Gil-Galad is neurodivergent or something similar, and that's why Gil-Galad cares way more about sex than is "normal". It's very weird to him that Gil-Galad is so strongly opposed to sex on someone else's schedule. Like sure, it would be preferable to be a Prince and get to always refuse if you were in the middle of a project, but it's not that big a deal. It would also be preferable to eat cake every day, but Fingon wouldn't cut all ties with his family if he was told he'd never get cake again.

But arguing with someone that they shouldn't find something viscerally unpleasant doesn't work. (Fingon tried, a lot, in hopes that Gil-Galad could be persuaded to stay as part of the family.) Fingon thinks he would run away himself if Feanor said that he would no longer be allowed indoors except when being fucked, but Celegorm would hardly notice a difference. Gil-Galad cares a lot about this, even if his reasons don't make much sense to Fingon. And being a good parent means you give your kids what they need, regardless of how uncommon that need is.

Also, Harem!Fingon isn't scared of Feanor. Sure, Feanor will demand things, from sex to bearing a child to permanent rules about behavior. And if someone's dumb enough to disobey, Feanor will inflict pain. But all the Bastards belong to Feanor just as surely as the Princes do, and Feanor keeps his belongings in good condition. He'd never actually do any long term damage, and has probably even punished the Princes for harming the Bastards too much. (Caranthir was sent to bed without supper or sex the time he accidentally hit Argon too hard and fractured his collarbone.)

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Servant AU Fingon by contrast has a life that is unpleasant from moment to moment. His entire day is dictated, and it's a mix of rape and mindless drudgery. He remembers a bit of a childhood before this, and even if he didn't he talks to the servants who work with him. They don't have to worry that if they skip sweeping an odd corner they'll be whipped. And they certainly aren't compelled to have sex with their uncle and cousins.

Servant!Fingon is also very aware that Feanor doesn't care about him at all. Feanor likes having Nolo around to flaunt his victory in front of. But Nolo's kids are mostly just dildos/cocksleeves, with the bonus that Nolo reacts entertainingly when Feanor does something new or unusually bad to them.

Servant!Fingon is 100% convinced that Feanor would kill him f he became too much trouble to keep prisoner. And then Fingon's family would be raped even more, as the sex that had been distributed among four of them is now only going three ways.

Not saying Servant!Fingon would never escape, but it would have to be something very very big.

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The two of them would definitely not get along.

For one thing, Servant!Fingon has an incest taboo and Harem!Fingon doesn't, and I feel like Harem is going to suggest selfcest at some point in this discussion. Servant is not 100% opposed to the concept but saying "It will be even hotter than fucking Dad in front of a mirror" is not how you convince him.

For another, yes, they do not understand each other at all. Servant thinks that Harem is naive and brainwashed, willing to give up his entire life in exchange for a little temporary pleasure.

Harem thinks that Servant is stubborn to the point of idiocy, fighting back when there's no way of winning purely to claim points in his own head.

[curufinwefeanaro]

What would Fëanor say of his firstborn & His cousin together ?

|| Hello anon.

I’ve addressed this in past, but I don’t think I ever summarised it in a post, so here we go. I hope you’re ready for the read.

Firstly, something about LaCE. I think you know what it is? But if not: Laws and Customs of the Eldar is an essay/chapter written by Tolkien that you can find in The Peoples of Middle Earth (HoME 12, if I’m not mistaken, can’t be assed to check). The gist of it is: elves marry for life and are intrinsically soul-bound when they have sex, the expectation of marriage is basically bearing children, an elf can immediately tell if another elf is soul-married by looking into their eyes/spirit. There are a lot of other customs described in there (such as naming customs), but this is what is relevant to our topic. Basically, the implication is that marriage equals sex on a natural and metaphysical level and that sex can only be heterosexual. 

Now, my stance on it: LaCE does not describe the nature of elves, only, well, what the title says --- their laws and customs. They are social norms of the Eldar, aka Amanyar elves (Vanyar, Ñoldor, Teleri) and Sindar of Beleriand. Even beyond the fact that the soul-bound thing is creepy as hell, I do actually have receipts proving that LaCE is unreliable at best (this post explains the problem of its authorship pretty damn well) (and also some stuff talking about the whole text, part #1, #2, #3, #4) (and if you really wanna go wild, this is a pretty interesting take on romance or lack thereof within the context of LaCE) --- but I do still choose to follow it as a set of rules, because it gives a good (if inaccurate) insight in a society that could otherwise be entirely alien to our understanding.

I’ll get to your question in a bit, but I think it’s relevant to clarify how I believe homosexual relationships (or anything non-hetero, really) would be perceived in this context, and what is Fëanor’s stance on LaCE.

As I said, what is officially recognised (marriage that is only really “crowned” by conceiving children) is heterosexuality. But since I’m rejecting LaCE as natural laws, I do believe non-heterosexual relationships exist. I suppose, in this context, that they could be read as different things: youthful adventures, occasionally a master-apprentice relationship (which may a little more socially accepted?), dalliances, something that exists and people know, but is not made public and certainly has no kind of social significance and should not claim any, on the verge of secrecy. It’s not an ideal society by far, but Valinor isn’t one in any case, it has a lot of taboos, death itself seemingly being a not irrelevant one. 

As for Fëanor’s position in all of this, we know he has a sort of tendency to not do what is expected of him (including but not limited to marrying very young, moving out from the house of his father, marrying someone who apparently made people wonder, traveling in the wilderness a lot). On the other side his situation in terms of marriage and bonding-for-life is very delicate because of his mother’s death and his father’s remarriage. Basically, if he refuses such customs entirely, he risks to legitimise his father’s choice, or at least to make not so much a big deal out of it. 

I say that because I suppose there is evidence that the laws and customs are in fact influenced by the Valar. The Statute of Finwë and Míriel is a good example of that, but also there’s some nice analysis about how the Valar might influence gender roles in Aman. (Now you could ask me, but why should deities that come from Eru’s mind want to implement roles and customs that are so painfully and imperfectly human? Well... frankly I don’t blame it on them but on the fact that Tolkien was, in fact, human, and a man with his flaws. I, myself, am rejecting LaCE as the pinnacle of purity that it maybe was supposed to be in Tolkien’s imagination, and that means that the link with the Valar as enforcers of this “goodness” is lost. I can’t frankly be assed to rework the entire concept of the Valar’s morality and where LaCE might come from if not from them right now. Maybe I’ll do it one day but not now.)

So, in short: Fëanor rejecting the norms on marriage and couple bonding would be consistent with his rejection of the Valar’s authority from a certain point onwards, BUT it would also mean that all of his issues (which are deeply influenced by the society he grew up in) would disappear into thin air, or at least would almost be invalidated by his own claims against the Valar. And those issues are not exactly something he can shrug off, they’re not just social norms he can speak against, they are personal, very deep, very painful. So, as far as I’m concerned, his stance with regard to LaCE can only be extremely conflicted (consider: the organisation of society in Aman is not something that he challenges explicitly even in his speech to the Ñoldor. It’s only the Valar’s sovereignity and what they want from the elves. Although freedom might also include that part of the problem.)

...And now.

Back to your actual question.

What doesFëanor think of Maedhros and Fingon together? Here I assume you mean in a romantic and sexual sense, rather than in a companionship sense. If it were the latter, the text would give you almost all that you need. 

We are never told thatFëanor ever spoke against his sons’ friendship with Aredhel, or Maedhros’ specific friendship with Fingon. Absence of evidence isn’t evidence of absence, that is true, but I argued before that his own relationship with Fingolfin wasn’t always so bad, and what The Silmarillion itself has to say in chapter 9 is:

But when they were landed, Maedhros the eldest of his sons, and on a time the friend of Fingon ere Morgoth’s lies came between, spoke to Fëanor [...]

There’s a before, and no indication whatsoever that, before the feud,Fëanor had anything against it (or that his opinion was even the main reason why the friendship ended to begin with, since the text pretty clearly points the finger against Melkor here, and since both Maedhros and Fingon have their own personal loyalty to their own house and can read the situation and think for themselves.)

Now, on a romantic level... well, I spent a bunch of paragraphs explaining why that’s complicated. I think he would have more issues with that being presented as something serious or something that should be made pubilc, which I don’t believe Maedhros would ask of him under any circumstance --- they are still the royal family and going against LaCE again, presenting a new set of special circumstance might not be what anyone wants to see, Maedhros least of all.Fëanor might glare a bit, because it’s technically a joining of his house with his brother’s, IF you follow the laws and customs (remember, sex=marriage here, even if that might not at all count in case of same-sex relationships) (let’s not even get into the gross assumption that only penetrative sex with a penis would count as “real sex”, following the reasoning presented in LaCE). AndFëanor might... not especially enjoy that kind of profoundly political move, especially if tied to social customs issues. He might want to see it all kept secret. Might want to have a chat with Fingolfin on the matter. And might want a sexual relationship to stop. (Which, by the way, I do think is also what Fingolfin would want, cosidering how much more he seems to care about social customs and proper politics.)

But let me tell you, I am firmly against the idea that he would be terribly strict, angry, outraged, or any other radical reaction that doesn’t take into consideration his feelings on such matters, which I’m certain they should be very conflicted. (For her piety, I actually think Nerdanel would take the news in a worse way and I’m not sure where that “supportive gay-accepting mom” trope comes from for her. But headcanons on her aren’t my place to discuss here.) And like, I specify this not just because I’m sick of that “violent father” trope which somehow, in the year of the Lord 2k17, is still around, but also because I’ve seen some shit, anon, I assure you. Even people attributing nazi philosophy toFëanor to explain why he would be Absolutely Against The Ship (unlike Fingolfin, who was somehow a progressive liberal who obviously didn’t give a shit about his social perception and all that jazz), and no, I’m not shitting you, that post was absolutely puke-worthy for the triviality with which it treated real-life issues for the sake of shitting on a character. But this is beyond the point now.

So... yeah? I think I answered your question, or at least I tried to. Enjoy.