#anti catra

[spopsalt]

People who used to ship c//a but stop have a better redemption arc than Catra

[cookies-in-chees]

“we need more morally grey female characters” “we need fucked up & complicated gay characters ”

You couldn’t even handle HER

[todomemolesta18]

They

will never be them

[spop-romanticizes-abuse]

saw this post on pinterest and

just wanted to give a shoutout to this person's comment under it:

out of all the languages, they chose to speak facts. good for you, blue eye chicken.

[pepper-butler]

im gonna be honest. i love hero x villain ships, and i love angsty enemies to lovers. but i hate catradora

why?

because of that dumb fucking redemption. if it was just a funny lil "what if the hero and villain had a thing for each other" ship i would've loved it.

but trying to redeem an abuser, blame the victim and play the relationship off as healthy? fuck no, catra is to be held accountable for all of her actions and adora deserves better than her. catra is a horrible person and the show should treat her as such, instead of an "uwu gay disaster baby".

enemies to lovers shouldn't be a victim being emotionally scarred from an abuser, it should be enemies who are equal to each other. i would much rather ship catradora if catra hated everyone else just as much as she hates adora

if you ship catradora, fine. good for you, honestly. but don't hit me with the "its healthy" bs, or the "you don't know what enemies to lovers means". i do know what it means, i just don't like the abuser x victim sort

[raviosprovidence]

This is such a dumb fucking post because holy shit, IT DID! Y'all saying it didn't either ignored the entire first four seasons, or just straight up think gaslighting, physical abuse, emotional abuse, and forcefully mind controlling someone and fantasizing about how you'll make them kill their friends is perfectly fine (yes, the latter thing did happen within the show, check out the episode White Out)

The problem is that CATRA SAYS 2 SHITTY APOLOGIES AND THATS IT. There is barely any acknowledgement on 90% of the bad shit she did. Nothing on calling adora stupid in a derogatory way. nothing about the excessive amount of violence or the insane amount of gaslighting done within the show. Hell, they didn't even acknowledge the fact that catra nearly destroyed the world out of spite and thus, *indirectly killed someone*. Never acknowledged!

We DO like less sanitized queer stories! When they're actually given the weight they deserve and characters doing shitty things aren't constantly excused or told that they're in the right. Gen V is pretty gruesome and that's very lgbtq+ friendly and not sanitized. Arcane is leading towards a lesbian romance and it's FAR from sanitized and child friendly. Everything Everywhere All At Once (though not technically a queer focused story) casts a lesbian AS THE ANTAGONISTIC ROLE against a straight woman and no one had a problem with that! Bottoms! Exists! The fact that it exists and got as popular as it is shows that this is just wrong.

Y'all just didn't watch the She ra . I unfortunately paid attention. Having a character get brain washed, apologize twice vaguely, and then kiss the main character doesn't excuse all the prior abuse that character committed.

[terrabdectyle]

[sealnoodlesoup]

My stupid opinion that will get me killed by the entire She-Ra fandom

Shadow Weaver had a better redemption arc than C4tra

Yes, I know that Shadow wasn't fully redeemed, was terrible, and never apologized for her actions. But at least she was useful and helped the rebellion, unlike C4tra who was just getting in everyone's way. Shadow had many chances to betray the rebellion but she didn't meanwhile C4tra (who committed more and worse crimes than Shadow) would probably betray them all if someone offered her greater power because she only joined the rebellion when it was her only chance of survival despite being offered to join them many times before. And while C4tra did say she was sorry she never properly apologized for everything she did (like killing Angela and almost destroying the universe) and her apology always felt like she was just trying to earn sympathy from others. And she continued treating everyone horribly even after that. Shadow Weaver stayed loyal to the rebellion until the very end and even died for them, I know many people say that she only killed herself to traumatize C4tra, but the only proof of that they have is the "You're welcome" and it still can be argued what she meant by that (In my opinion it was "You're Welcome, now that I'm dead I won't bother you anymore" I'm not gonna explain why I think that here because this post is not about that). Shadow was the one who found a way to stop Horde Prime and did everything to make sure it worked, meanwhile, C4tra was being a nuisance and a distraction just so she could be with Adora and didn't care that the world might get destroyed because of it. She tried to stop Adora from taking the failsafe even though Adora was the only person who could survive it and got angry when Adora chose to save the world first instead of making out with her. Just to be clear I'm not talking about who was a morally better person, but who made up for their actions more.

In conclusion: Actions speak louder than words, Shadow Weaver was useful to the rebellion while C4tra was not.

[anti-catradora-collection]

just leaving this here.

[caramelarr0w055]

Finn redesing

Hi my anti C// A friends, i came back with a Finn redesing, if you don't know who is Finn i explaine to y'all. Finn, sadly, is C///A fanchild Nate ( she-ra's creator) made but I rededing them as a glimmadora fanchild and this is the result ^^ 🫧💕🧋🌙. I hope you like it and don't forget to follow my friends who are part of the anti C//A comunity: @spopsalt , @anti-spop , @anti-catradora-collection , @anti-catradora-receipts , @spop-romanticizes-abuse , @catra-slander-club and @my-nitpicking-self follow and support them please :D

[spopsalt]

Adora making fun of Kyle is so out of character, it's not even funny, not that making fun of Kyle was ever funny in the first place, like Adora is a pretty patient and kind person, yet she always bullies Kyle? I can see Catra bullying Kyle, but Adora? Adora???

[starlight-bread-blog]

Ememy Vs. Abuser: Catradora

Disclaimer: Netflix doesn't allow me to take screenshots. I tried to find clips on Youtube but a lot of these are stolen. And an obvious tw for abuse.

When Catradora antis bring up how Catra abused Adora in seasons 1-4, a lot of people seem to be confused. The go-to defense is the following:

"Catra and Adora were enemies, they were put against each other in many battles. The 'abuse' is just what you'd normally expect from enemies to lovers".

A complelling argument, for sure. How can you expect of Catra to not be violent with someone who was put against her? The answer to this question can be answered through a different question: Why is Catra the abuser? Why not Adora?

What's the difference between an enemy, and an abuser?

1# The aggressor is particularly cruel to their future partner.

Catra doesn't use her claws on real people very often. She mostly uses them on objects or robots (or Shadow Weather's mask).

At times, it's clear tnat she would gain a lot from using her claws, but she doesn't.

One might suggest that it's because she understands the full weight of using them. Whatever the case may be, there is a person she doesn't seem to have these reservations about: Adora.

2# Their intreractions contain emotional abuse.

Catra often blames Adora for things that aren't her fault. She's cruel to Adora, deliberately and viciously hurts her.

She makes mean spirited remarks and belittles her.

Additionally, Catra gaslit her.

And wouldn't you know it, she takes pride in having control over Adora.

3# There is no balance.

As we previously established, Catra has no problem being needlessly cruel to Adora. But is Catra in the same danger? It it at least mutually toxic?

It's not. Adora can fight and defend herself, but won't do more than she needs. Meanwhile, Catra seem to relish in brutalizing her.

Further more, moments that could be considered romantic build up in their own, "spicy" way, are positioned with Catra on top, where Adora has no choice but to comply, where she's stuck there.

4# The aggressor got in the victim's head.

Adora has a guilt complex. That's not a controversial take. She takes too much responsibility and thinks everything is her fault. A lot of this stems from Shadow Weaver, but there's another source.

And Adora is very quick to internalize her cruel remarks.

In Conclusion:

Catra and Adora's relationship can and was abusive during the war. They share specific patterns of abusive relationships even at war zone. Catra hurting Adora isn't all war stuff, it's personal, it's abusive.

[sunnydust2003]

This scene:

My honest reaction:

Are you same bitch who trying killed your fucking girlfriends.

[spop-romanticizes-abuse]

oh, and did i mention attempted murder?

as you can tell, i'm gonna be using this meme format a lot

[pepper-butler]

anti catradora rant

honestly i don’t even care what catradora stans say at this point. “it was because of her childho”-

catra tortured adora. catra hurt adora, even when they were friends. you’re not supposed to be in a relationship with someone like that, no matter how awful someone’s childhood was

to elaborate on the torture thing, I’m specifically talking about the episode “white out”. catra gets hold on first ones tech, and decides to use it against adora. she had every chance and reason to run away, but chose to hurt adora, and didn’t seem to even flinch when her so-called crush was screaming in pain from her actions

adora fought catra too. adora did try to hurt catra: they were enemies after all. but she didn’t try to kill her and cause pain. and catra did. maybe out of anger or trauma, but it doesn’t change the fact that she hurt adora when she had the opportunity not to

catra on the other hand literally tried to end the fucking world. she told adora that she made catra what she became, blaming her for her own abusive actions. adora tried time and time again to reach out to catra so that she could run away with her. but catra refused and stayed, which was obviously adoras fault according to the show’s undertones

she also killed glimmer’s mother but lets forgive her, everyone makes mistakes. i don’t think that glimmer got the apology that she deserved

another thing i noticed is how catra defenders will make glimmer out to be the bad guy.

glimmer and adora fought, and glimmer was honestly a pos against her friends in parts of the last seasons. she should have listened to the people around her.

but she had a fight with adora. she didn’t abuse her, she didn’t hurt her physically or torture her. she was trying to do the right thing, and ended up hurting the people around her in the process because she didn’t listen. she was also a great friend to adora for most of the series, and they made each other grow as people

catra isn’t morally gray her morality is pitch dark

[madnessandentropy]

Stans are so funny. According to them, Shadow Weaver is an incredibly skilled and intelligent manipulator and poor Catra (who is also incredibly intelligent) was manipulated by this evil woman.

She's so awful... until she manipulates Glimmer that is. She's so "obviously" evil, and Glimmer is so stupid and selfish for being easily manipulated when she's in a vulnerable position after losing her mother and being forced to grapple with that grief (and her trauma) while fighting in a war and unexpectedly becoming queen.

What a terrible person Glimmer is, she's so evil for working with the enemy and Adora's abuser (remember Adora's abuse only matters when tearing down Glimmer!) even though Catra works alongside a literal genocidal maniac.

Don't forget that Glimmer is abusive to Adora for yelling at her and arguing with her! Catra is Adora's true friend and partner, she only aids in genocide and regularly assaults and tortures Adora because she's traumatised!