#anyway yeah i feel really strongly about Talos and his worship

[potatoesandsunshine]

Same anon as before, I loved the lil fic you did abt Astarion and Taryn, you captured his personality SO well. And Taryn, beloved girl. Absolutely fascinating character study. I’m very curious abt your cleric as well!!

bg3 anon my best friend bg3 anon <3 tysm!! i was really proud of that astarion characterization and i'm glad it was good. i'm juggling a couple ideas with her along with this new playthrough - cried my way through the game epilogue but i just wasn't ready to put her down.

currently chipping away at the postgame waterdeep newlyweds era - the idea of 'tav' as a character taryn has made up to deal with it all is just. she's so much. she can find a way to be honest about her feelings as long as she's pretending to be someone else. and thinking about her and tara is like... the friction between them dissolved when tara realized 'oh, another one'. anyway, i have to learn to write stage direction before i go any further with this idea but it's like five stories smashed together right now (taryn missing the rest of the party/newly married bliss/the sheer trauma of the waterdeep tower/the play within the play/can you befriend a tressym who has decided, no, i'm adopting you) oh! and there's also the alfira story but i think that's a separate fic.

and my cleric!!!!!!!!

this is elsie <3 (a blue tiefling cleric? groundbreaking.) she's got SO much wrong with her she is PERFECT to me. she's a tempest domain follower of talos, but it's kind of the classic 'surely this cheerful character can't be serving evil, can she?' situation. she can be. she's not actually sure WHAT she's doing on any given day. anyway, some elsie fun facts!

her name isn't elspeth, which i think would make more sense for the nickname - it's elisaveta, because a cleric being called 'god is my oath' made something insane happen in my brain. literally it would only be better if she were a paladin. elisaveta storm-heart welcome to the world it will be bad for you.

on my end of it (in the game she's got the acolyte background) when she was fifteen she... ran afoul of(?) and/or was chosen (?) by talos - in a blatant karlach parallel, he ripped out her heart and put a storm in its place, which is how i think of that tempest cleric reaction where you can zap people manifested

this has led to a... kind of weird perception of gods in general? i've got the idea for a conversation between her & one of the companions where she says something like "I've heard of people who choose their gods, but in my experience it's always the other way around" // she would be super insane about the gale-mystra situation but it's only act 1 she doesn't know about it

every misfortune in her life is attributed directly to the god she worships. yeah the logic just isn't there but when she was young and freshly-zapped by lightning the group of talos cultists that picked her up just said this is how it is.

she has fully outsourced her moral compass to wyll, which is honestly one of the best moves she could've made. you're welcome faerun.

i also characterize her as someone who has very strong initial emotional reactions to things - she's a crier, she stomps her feet, she throws things if she's by herself, little lightning bolts from her fingertips etc. taryn shifted into resignation so quickly, but elsie is really different! she's bad at hiding how she feels and she feels strongly. who's crying behind the last light inn? elsie. who's screaming at ketheric while he tries to monologue? elsie. who ran back to the enclave and killed kahga before considering any other options? elsie.

we're really early game with her so she doesn't know about any of the dead three stuff but she's going to be VERY unimpressed. if she didn't hate gortash already for the whole selling her girlfriend to hell thing, she'd hate him as... a religious obligation? and not in a sexy way like whatever he had going on with the bhaalspawn, more like a 'how dare these worms try to end the world that's literally what i was given the holy mission to do (that i've been ignoring)'

anyway she's super cute she has gray hair streaks for fantasy bullshit reasons and she's pretty sure talos never actually checks if she's doing her homework so it's fine, really, everybody's getting dramatic over nothing

[thalwhore]

Anyway I just think that if the Nords want the freedom to worship Talos, then they should be alright with the freedom of ALL religions in the elder scrolls franchise.

No more Vigilants of Stendarr, as many races worship the Daedra- Orcs and Dunmer being some who immediately come to mind. To deny Daedra worship is to deny the Orsimer and Dunmer of their cultural practices.

Speaking of the Dunmer- the Tribunal would have to be formally recognized as gods too, as even in life they were referred to as the 'living gods'.

Likewise one could make an argument that the Dwemer as a whole could have achieved godhood when they disappeared, and so that would have to be accepted if enough people chose to worship them.

And Mannimarco, King of worms- a Lich who ascended to godhood after an attempt to trick Molag Bal himself.

Ysgramor, who made modern Skyrim into what it is today by killing/driving out the elves in an epic battle as revenge for their attack on Sarthal.

Pelinal Whitestrake, who aided the Slave Queen Alessia in overthrowing their elven slavers and freeing an entire race of men.

I could very much continue.

In short, the Nords would have to accept all of these as potential gods that people can worship without persecution. Because freedom of religion is freedom of ALL religion, even those you don't agree with.