#btw i am absolutely always down to talk about my analysis relating to this concept of demigods embodying personality traits of their parents

[aroaceleovaldez]

i think there is a fundamental misunderstanding people make when approaching Jason’s character, but to explain it I must first go on a tangent -

One of the things that’s really interesting with the demigod characters is that, while they are independent personality-wise of their divine ancestors, and their personality is never fully reflective of their divine ancestors, demigods still always have personality traits that are strongly related to an aspect of their divine ancestor(s). For a lot of demigod character this is even the same trait that presents itself in different ways, particularly in CHB. Demeter kids tend to be rooted - usually presenting as them being stubborn and resistant to change or opposing opinions. Apollo kids tend to be self-focused. Hades kids tend to be driven by their relationships/bonds to others. Percy and Tyson are the only Poseidon kids, but Percy’s seems to be that outwardly he appears to be an unpredictable wildcard, when this is not necessarily true. The sea is not wholly unpredictable - if you learn it, you will learn the patterns that drive it, and that it is subject to many outside influences (the moon, the sun, winds, etc). It just looks unpredictable to those who do not bother to learn (which, btw, is a GREAT metaphor for ADHD imo).

Jason and Thalia represent two specific spheres for Zeus/Jupiter (and in Jason’s case, Hera/Juno as well). Thalia is Zeus as King of the gods. She is a natural leader. She works well in leadership positions and tends to lead logically. This is why she’s the lead Huntress of Artemis.

Jason does not represent Jove and Juno as King and Queen of the gods. Jason represents Juno and Jove as mother and father of the gods. This is why he tends to fall naturally into leadership positions in groups but simultaneously struggles in them in some scenarios but not others. He dislikes leading an army and being seen as perfect and above others because he is not acting from the perspective of a king, he is acting from the perspective of a member of a family unit. He is not the leader of an army, he is a wolf in a pack. He leads emotionally. He’s protective of his group. Yes, he is a bit of a dad-friend! But at the same time he is adverse to putting himself above the group! Yes, he falls into leadership positions, but only to a certain degree. He works best in a group he’s familiar with. He works better in smaller groups.

To Thalia those specifics don’t matter, because she’s not working from a more personal perspective like Jason does. Thalia could lead groups Jason is normally put in charge of, but Jason would not be able to lead Thalia’s groups. But also Thalia is not devoid of Zeus-as-a-father-god traits either! That was basically her entire dynamic with Annabeth (and Luke)! And Jason isn’t wholly devoid of Jupiter-and-Juno-as-rulers-of-the-gods either, he is capable of tapping into that- and he does so! But he is always primarily Jove-and-Juno-as-parents-of-the-gods first and foremost.

And that’s a really interesting character trait to play with! It’s so cool picking apart characters and seeing how they embody traits and aspects of their divine ancestors! And you can lean into that in so many things! If you’re writing meta/character analysis, if you’re writing a specific character for a fic or something, if you’re making a demigod OC - heck, I use this sort of analysis of what traits are common for demigods of specific divine ancestors for assigning cabins/etc to characters (and people, if I am requested to do so).

[extrology]

Get to Know Chanyeol

Light Astrology Analysis

Chanyeol has a bowl chart with all planets located towards his interactions with others

Very Outgoing person

Is lacking inside, may have a lot of  internal struggles

Saturn is his Dominant planet but it gets almost completely negated by his tightest aspect (in other posts about that) and the 2nd most dominant planet - Jupiter

Jupiter also makes him optimistic, able to see the bigger picture

Jupiter dominants are usually tall, “extra” and lucky

As Capricorn dominant always has the internal conflict between public exposure with their great need for privacy

LOVES talking about the subjects of interest (mysterious, weird, taboo things, music, animu and whatever else he likes)

loves company of intelligent, well read and fun people

Jupiter dominants tend to be a bit lazy and all over the place

with Mars Cancer he tends to play the victim in arguments

self-pitying himself

always thinking “why me?” inside

very emotional about conflicts,

takes them very poorly

long recovery period, hold grudges

usually is very sensitive about close friends'/family matters

internal anxieties

most conflicts tend to come from the past

wants security (in money, relationships, job... )

can’t deal being ignored

also doesn’t usually tell others what he wants and expects others to simply know what he wants

Scorpio mind is definitely scary, especially in the 8th house (the dark house of secrets, sex, death) and plus that tight Pluto conjunction (planet of extremes and darkness)

his Pluto hides his geniusness from everybody

so you’ll see his actual brain VERY rarely

heretic, born strategist

he notices every tiny detail

loves playing detective in his mind (and he’s Hella good at it)

such a sharp mind, fearless about going where others fear to thread

literally human surveillance camera

but not so interested in school or the traditional concept of “intelligent”

tends to romanticize death, destruction and law breaking (gangs, crime, sinful mind overall)

often has weird, “dark” thoughts about sex

can we just talk about his dirty lyrics. Even with that hardcore censorship he manages to write dirty songs

seeks the Truth and he WILL find it

masks, lies and illusions don’t work on him

a born detective A Concept: Intelligence Agent/Hacker Chanyeol

don’t try to win an argument with him

also he’s not very tactful

stubborn, will hang onto a subject until satisfied

will do all he can to avoid an uninteresting subject

can be manipulative and very secretly controlling

likes to possess the ones he cares about (he feels it’s a way to protect them)

will be tempted to use his mind for evilish goals

I can see him loving monster concept

SO this boy’s got Sagittarius sun (ego, character) and it’s made even stronger with Jupiter dominant 

he wishes to be respected and heard more than anything

but doesn’t care about what other people want

such an optimistic free spirit

loves independence and adventures

don’t suffocate him if you want a good relationship with him

faithful, if all needs met but his restlessness would probably create distance (both physically and mentally)

lucky in many aspects of life

needs constant action

wants to learn everything he can (especially with that sharp mind) (no wonder he knows how to play so many instruments)

loves to travel and to make friends while he’s at it (am I the only one being reminded of all those insta posts with different people every time)

his acceptance of everybody and optimism simply draw people in

although easy going as a fire sign has a quick and fierce temper

while usually accepting and positive

if you manage to make this boy angry

run.

absolutely doesn’t sugar coat anything or tell white lies

honest, sometimes a little too honest

might come off as rude and insensitive because of it

sagittariuses usually swear a lot

likes people who join him in athletic as well as intellectual activities

an excellent organizer and usually successful at any project he takes on

lives for himself

but if you can keep up and follow along he’ll show you an exciting and cheerful side of life ~ 

With Cap Moon emotional matters is just not his strong suit

actually frightened by his emotions and is not sure how do deal with them

needs to feel useful and productive

his own worst critic and can be really hard on himself

painfully aware of his weaknesses and tries very hard to compensate for them

wants to be respected in others eyes

finds it difficult to relate to people who have different values

witty and self-focused

wants to have realistic goals

loyal friend but awful at texting back

he doesn’t shit talk unless that person in REALLY REALLY shit

most cap moons are weebs or furries (if they say they’re not - they’re lying)

likes to get their way

pretty down to earth, knows his goals, looks at them realistically

he’s funnier than you

deal with it

hides sensitivity with jokes

hates dealing with emotions

but there’s always a point where they just pile up and explode (esp if includes close friends/ family Mars Cancer)

Bonus

venus cap makes him a very traditional boyfriend

neptune cap makes his dreams very realistic

the two aspects above explain why Chanyeol idealized Jongin from the very first days.

he’s attracted to both of these signs

as his ideal lover from dreams and fantasies (neptune) is capricorn and Jongin is Capricorn king if I’ve ever seen one

with Jupiter(abundance) quintile (talent) Mars (sex, manliness) this guy is DEFFINETLY packing down there and is especially talented in bed

I give you my word (btw, quintiles are actuary rare to have in a table, so to have one in this aspect... oh boy)

if it ends up wrong, I promise I’ll quit astrology

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