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Steerio Hearts Stuff & Stuff
White Devils and the Demons They Serve (Chs 15-17)
I was gonna do two seperate posts, but you two are the ones who do most of the reading and y’all actually read EVERYTHING, so I figured, even if it’s as long as a chapter, y’all would’ve read it anyways.
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Stevie can’t even sniff his fingers with Bukowski breathing down his neck. What is Bukowski up to with Cheerio? 
I. Am. Still. Crine. Over this comment. That is all. (Because, you just found out in Ch 17 what Bukowski was up to.
But I guess it’s the devil you know versus the devil you don’t.
Even though this is regarding Tesla, this is actually a fantastic summary of most of the characters in this story, hell - in the series. People often accept what their life seems to be instead of fighting for what it can be. That DEFINITELY happens in the context of having a mental illness, because everyday life can be overwhelming enough, so taking extra risks and chances are sometimes astronomical.
What’s sad is they would rather do that than come see their child. Time is more value, and we see they don’t care enough to spend any with her.
The Robinsons are the worst. I just have no other feedback of them for right now. Radja more than Champ - but they are a team and that team should’ve included their daughter and never does. In fact, I have a little arc that involves Radja coming up shortly and yes, she’s just the worst in it. 
But then those dang nightmares and training haunting the poor guy. I know it’s something he struggles with even after their married. He has triggers, and they usually lead to him growing and learning something different about himself and the way he views things. It seems that this is only the beginning of that journey.
Stevie sometimes suffers from psychosis, so he’s forgotten a lot of things that he’s been exposed to, because his brain was just unable or unwilling to process the trauma - much like his breakdown after Mary died. This is why later he still has repressed memories punching him in the gut and why it’s important to him to be a realist. He seems like an asshole a lot, for “Just being realistic,” but he knows himself (particularly after he’s out) and he just wants to make sure he’s trying to assess things normally and naturally, so that he doesn’t unintentionally wind up in a state of psychosis... Now, WE know that sometimes, it’s going to happen, anyway. But, these glimpses into his episodes are here for me to try to explain why Stevie is such an “asshole,” OUTSIDE of his racism. That’s a completely different issue which I’d never justify. Lol.
I do wonder if Tesla wants this footage. I doubt Bukowski has any good in him so is it his self need to have every part of Tesla in his grasp, under his control? Will she be somehow grateful he’s gotten this back? Idk but just the thought makes me sicker.
Tesla does NOT want this footage, wants no part of this footage, was alarmed by Bukowski and Stevie even MENTIONING this footage, and has absolutely no need for this footage. This is primarily about Bukowski’s control, and also his fetish. He enjoys watching. He enjoys knowing things. It makes him feel powerful to know things and to be able to see things. She MAY be grateful that he’s gotten it, but honestly, she’s still suffering from the damage of the event. She knows that it has already been done, and whether or not there is footage, she’s already suffered and has to live with it. Be sick, be very sick. It’s meant to be deeply sickening.
Anyway, Stevie is out of control lol threatening Derek was un called for. We know at this point she’s the one exception to that word, and that’s recent so I wasn’t surprised when he said it. I thought Cheerio would at least consider turning down Stevie’s offer but nope lol She just as toxic in love as him, and she sees beyond his training. I doubt I could have it in me.
Stevie is often impulsive in his decisions, but sometimes, they’re premeditated. Sometimes, he thinks things out, knows that his decision isn’t great and does it anyway. He gets so much better about this as he ages, but Teenage Stevie is deeply territorial and no matter what he says, he feels like he owns Cheerio.
And, no ma’am. I can’t relate to her, in that regard. A chick called me “Kunta Kinte” in 2007. I tried to beat her with a beer bottle in her own trailer, had to get dragged out of there and brought home and I still will call her a bitch, if I see her today.
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Ok... Who is Bukowski even using to make Tesla (Ally) jealous? I mean agh.
This had me cracking up SO HARD. You would be surprised the kinda pink dick pandering out there on the innanets. Whenever I had a successful porn blog, right here on Tumblr, I seen some shit. And there are folk less attractive and less charming that can somehow manage to get little sex games going with people, especially if they’re in a fetish niche (which gingers are).
ok so Tesla told her to have sex in the shower? If she's in the bathroom they accept verbal... side eyeing and looking all squinted eyed trying to imagine how they WON'T get caught.
This is because the orderlies won’t generally just burst into the bathroom while a resident is in the shower if the resident seems fine and is willing to peek out and show their face. They’ll only barge in if the resident seems off (trying to pretend that they’re fine) or is not responsive. They want to value their privacy to a certain extent, but not to leave them vulnerable, if they somehow got hold of a weapon or something.
It just goes back to what Stevie says to Sam. He has to constantly battle with his thoughts. At least he does that.
I touched on this a little bit with Dee. Stevie HAS to do this, to make sure that he keeps himself grounded. His triggers are so dynamic that they literally take control of his mind, for a time. He wants to not have to experience that, and he never wants to hurt the people he loves because of some type of break.
Hmm so Dani is trying to work at a library. That's kind of perfect. Hope she gets it and keeps up her therapy and stuff. It always makes me upset to see any hospital release patients before they are ready. I really hope Dani can transition back into society.
Oh, no - she’s not trying to work at the library. The library is one of the few places that poor people can have access to the Internet and by this time, even though the story is set for several years ago - a lot of the jobs and such are available to apply online. Dani would most likely apply online, because she knows that she might appear to not be normal when going in to get applications and people might “fire before you hire” her upon seeing that she’s not very normal. Sorry, I didn’t explain that. I know that the Texas Workforce Commission has access, but I didn’t feel like researching how unemployment works in Ohio, so I just went the library application route. Dani’s story isn’t over yet, so you’ll definitely find out how life went for her.
They function as a community, one for all and all for their cause. People can do anything when they work together even create monsters and killers.
People who lead abusive lifestyles often see their behavior as normal. Hence arguments TO THIS DAY of “My mom beat me and I turned out fine” or “People are this way because they don’t get beat enough.” Contrary to the cases upon cases of research and information that hitting children only causes trauma. Now, generally - children of abuse do NOT turn out to be killers and horrible criminals. Some go on to be kind humans and productive members of society... But even those generally have to address the trauma that was caused by their toxic environments.
Inevitably we know the fate of the hospital but in the other stories we never hear of the other characters. I hope they get the help they need wherever they go.
I have stories plotted out for most of the ones that we know. It’s gonna be a moment to get to some of them, but I’ll try not to drop the ball, completely.
Stevie was angry with Bukowski for hurting his Bust it Baby- learning so much. I had to look that up. That is Cheri by every definition if not now then later. She is well on her way. That exchange was cute the way Cheri acted. 
Bust It Baby Pt 2 was ONE OF MY FAVES in the club. (Telling my age, now. LOL) But, THEY would have been teens/kids around that time, so I didn’t feel bad referencing that mug. Bwahahaha. Cheri DEFINITELY becomes all of that for Stevie. But, yeah - she was a little bashful about it being said in a group setting.
Even Tanisha had to tell him about himself with Stevie. It's like Stevie was punished for all the children, well Mary got to Stacey but Sam was golden. Some couples should not procreate. 
I think it took a while for Dwight to comprehend that just because Stacie and Sam ‘turned out okay,’ that didn’t MEAN that he had been blameless in helping to shape Stevie the way that he did. He never saw himself as having anything against Stevie, because he loved him as much as he did the others (or so he thought - he just wasn’t CLOSE to him). And Mama T was able to see that Dwight’s not being close to Stevie affected how he handled him, whether or not he did love him - which she believed and trusted that he did, but she needed him to get that STEVIE needed to believe and trust it.
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Bukowski is blinded by crazy. Any half decent individual would see red flags. DANGER! DANGER WILL ROBINSON! What an idiot. Poetic justice would be if Tesla killed his awhen he drugged and kidnapped her or whatever his chosen crazy decides to do. I just don't see him living after he knocked on that door.
Unfortunately, Bukowski’s time is not yet up. But, he has definitely poked a bear by reaching out to Max. Stevie making deals in an institution with a demon eww. Stevie has his number already, is he blinded by the vajayjay?
Stevie is blinded by both the caviar and his inability to access, the way that he would like to. He’s a teenage boy trying to squeeze quickies in all day in between heavily monitored times. That argument between Stevie and Cheri was like imagining popcorn pop. You know the explosion is coming. When it does your like damned that's some Good popcorn! I kept saying Oh, and scrunching up my face like Stevie's next words are gonna get him smacked and then he did it. He said the ultimate, ONE word that is complete Taboo in anger no less. *SMACK* ! Round two lol!
Stevie often feels attacked when nobody is attacking him. I blame Dwight for this, because Stevie spent most of his life feeling like he had to explain and defend himself, to the point where his mentality is paranoid and he thinks that he has to fight whenever a conflict or challenge arises. Cheri is not a violent person, but whenever she gets angry (Teenage Cheerio) will lash out, because she’s in a position where she can’t just go to the spa or have a smoothie. She’s relaxed more later because she has the freedom to simply escape for a moment. Here, she’s a caged bird. Cheri is hella patient with him and I get it. I have had to explain blackness to other races, as if EVERY race and EVERY culture and EVERY class does not have their own innuendoes and humor. Even his Arian idiot family. Like the lady at work told my coworker with at straight face 'Don't all y'all like fried chicken? I said what did you do? My coworker said I took a deep breath and saidNo! And what you just said is considered racist. Of course she asked how? My coworker said she just walked away. I probably would have a. been patient and broke it down, or b. said ungh hungh just like all y'all like caviar and filet minion. Just would depend on my mood but Cheri is time enough for Stevie. Most of how she handles Stevie I agree with.
I don’t. It’s not my job to bear the burden of educating people who (if they gave a fuck) could access resources to educate themselves. I made those mistakes when I was younger, and that shit was nothing but additional emotional labor added to the constant processes I had to go through, throughout the day in my black ass skin. I watch racists getting beat up for being trash on YouTube all the time. That’s handling that I agree with.Lol. Now there is no way in hell any man would not take Derek's behavior as a challenge or threat. I felt like he was trying to purposely show Stevie he could reach Cheri in a way Stevie could not and do things with Cheri that Stevie could not just to put it in Stevie's face then try and hide behind a smile and laughter like he didn't have an agenda. Even if he doesn't like her like that he KNEW Cheri was with Stevie. He should have acted accordingly. I think Derek was trying to be sneaky. Yes Stevie is a jelly monster and he is territorial and possessive but that is Stevie. Like Mason calling Cheri Ri Ri then correcting himself in front of Stevie. Mason is not deliberately trying to poke the bear. He calms all that down in front of Stevie and Stevie eventually learns that Cheri has to have other friends. I don't think that was Derek's mind set, befriend Cheri and Stevie. He just liked having the attention sounds like from everyone, in a mental hospital. Stevie is not stupid. Cheri is a little Naïve I think, especially when she meets Max. To me she made a couple mistakes with that. Trust no one. Describe new people in addition to looking up tags. 
This is highly problematic, in my opinion, for many reasons, all of which - I’ll respectfully address. Firstly, any man or person in general that takes the friendship of someone else with their partner as a threat is toxic, and possibly abusive. Control and possessiveness are not key points of love. They are key points of obsession and obsession is almost always dangerous when it involves people as the object.
I don’t think that I wrote anything to indicate that Derek was in any way trying to challenge or compete with Stevie, so that feeling seems to be some internalized antiblackness or at the very least, sympathy for the devil - in this case, that’d be Stevie. Because HE was wrong and he reacted. There is nothing wrong with a black kid getting attention from people or trying to impress or please people, so I’m not sure why that would be considered poking the bear or purposefully trying to upset Stevie. 
They are ALL in the mental hospital, and while Stevie definitely isn’t STUPID, he certainly is psychotic. He’s not always right. Even his instincts are frequently off, at this juncture of his life and it isn’t the responsibility of a black boy, who is here for his own mental health to coddle Stevie and think about all the ways that he may or may not be offending him by being generally friendly to everyone around him, which is literally all Derek does in this chapter. I only wrote him making jokes and being jovial, up until the point that Stevie threatened him, out of paranoia, after being told multiple times that he shouldn’t bother with it.
And Cheerio is definitely naive, but that also doesn’t mean that she should have had all the answers as to why not to suspect everybody that she met. She did her part to try to keep herself safe, and of course, Max would have had avenues set up as to not tip her off. He’s been trained to deceive. Saying that she made some mistakes sounds a little bit victim blaming to me, especially considering that she followed the rules that were given to her, and whenever she was abducted, she was run off of the road and taken. She hadn’t met up with him in the woods, or something. 
She was extremely paranoid (affecting her mental state and her peace of mind), because of everything that they had told her and she had no way of knowing that someone who’s information came back clean was someone else. I feel like this must be stated - Max doesn’t just LOOK like Max Giardi when he greets her. He’s not going up to her looking like somebody that she could Google and she’s just put her thumb in her butt and calls it a coincidence. He’s tactical. He purposefully entered her world. He wouldn’t do it in a way that any normal person would notice that anything off, much less someone that he would presume has been told to look out for him.
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Ashlee Brian as Derek (Originally a dance crew member in “The End of Twerking” episode.
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Is it ok for me to write a Latinx MC (first person) as a white person? I hate that there isn't better representation of POC in YA fiction (which is what I'm writing), but I also want to make sure I'm not telling a story somebody else should be telling. The story isn't racially driven - it's fantasy and it's less "Latinx kid struggling with racism" and more "Latinx kid fights monsters." Do you have any tips for me writing this MC? Is this something I should avoid altogether? Thank you!
Okay, this will be more of my opinion than advice.I’m a Latina living in a South American country. Part of my identity is from the city I was born and lived in so far; this becomes an important role when I travel in my own country. People from other regions have mixed opinions about the people from the capital, and this affects every person living here. Part of our identity is from the place we spend most of our time, but this identity blurs when I’m outside my country. There I identify myself with my whole country, not from the city I’m from. This situation also resonates with other people from different places when travel abroad: Our nationality becomes our passport. Why the paragraph above? Because identity is one of our foundations as Latinxs. Every country has its own, and within it, there are more. No country in South America, or Latin America has one homogeneous group of people. There are common elements we have as a continent: the genocide and ethnocide of the native people (physical and cultural), the stealing of lands, social movements, specially from the working class and students, poverty, military coups, African people brought here as slaves during the Conquest of the continent, the language, the syncretism between Catholicism and local religions, football (soccer for Americans), among others. Each country is different, but we share the elements above; when something happens in any country in Latin America, we expect to see the same, or a variation from it, in other countries of the continent. But South America is not the same as Latin America.By definition a Latin American country is a country where a language derived from Latin is spoken and cataloged as official. They are Spanish and Portuguese, so you have the following countries: Argentina, Bolivia (Estado Plurinacional), Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Cuba, Ecuador, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Mexico, Nicaragua, Panamá, Paraguay, Perú, Puerto Rico, República Dominicana, Uruguay and Venezuela; in a more strict definition French also derives from Latin, so you have to add the following countries and regions: Guadalupe, Guyana Francesa, Haití, Martinica, San Bartolomé, San Martín, and the French region of Canada. But if you ask us, we don’t consider the French region of Canada as part of Latin America. Given the information above, where does your Latinx character come from? What is their heritage? Latinxs don’t look the same, nor can we be defined as one race. The categorization of POC vs white people (I write this in a non-defiant way) is practically non existent in some of our countries. Discrimination, racism and xenophobia do exist in our countries, but they take different forms, and they are expressed in different ways, many times in subtle ways.Now, as for your ask per sé.Yes, you can write a Latinx being yourself a white person, but is it okay to do so? It depends on the final product, but the approach you take from the beginning of your story, not the writing in strict sense, but your general approach, is also crucial. Writing a Latinx using first person, being yourself a white person – I wouldn’t advise it, because there are many things you won’t get right about us, not because you can’t get them, but because you’re not one of us. The stereotypes surrounding us, the ones we have created for people from the rest of the continent, the ones white people have created and perpetuated, are way too many, and the chances that you misuse them, whether you want to or not, are high if you are not careful. Are you sure there isn’t better representation of us in YA, or are you only reading YA books featuring POC written by white people? There are plenty of YA books written by Latinxs, so it isn’t that you haven’t found them, but you haven’t looked for them, which is different. It’s okay for you to hate our representation, or misrepresentation, or the lack of it, but instead of more white people writing for us, why not letting us write? If it’s fantasy, and there are Latinxs, there will be a race issue, whether you want it or not, because there is already a separation between cultures. There will be a race issue because who we are as Latinxs, our skills, our intelligence, even our heritage if we don’t look Latinx enough, is questioned and judged outside our countries, and within them as well.
What kind of monsters do you want your character to fight? Universal types of monsters? Monsters from Latin America? (If so I think the only “monster” we share is the chupacabra.) Monsters from each country? My advice is the following:
Don’t lose your story. Keep it somewhere while you still think of it.
Be specific, don’t say: this character is Latinx and throw them a bunch of traits you think it’ll make them Latinxs.
Research. The entire history of Latin America is written in blood, and every building built by Europeans has corpses as foundations. The official history won’t be enough, oral history, oral tradition and collective memory are very important to us, is how we create, and re-create ourselves and our culture.
Be respectful. We owe white people nothing.
Watch this video: It’s called Latinos Enemigos, a 20-min. video from the tv show ChumelxHBO. It presents interesting topics about our identity as Latinxs (the video is pre-elections in USA and is in Spanish). It might give you a start.
Talk to people. You’ve probably asked this to someone else; ask more people. Some people will say no, some will say yes, some won’t care. In the end, it’ll be your decision. Make it a conscious one.
I could keep on about this, but I think I made my point.
LiaNote: the links redirecting to social and political events were not arbitrary; they show a only a glimpse of all the political and social movements and their results. In no way they are meant to diminish or erase any other movements, past or current. The choice to add songs is mine, none of them was written in a social-political vacuum. Listening to them and analysing the lyrics can help you get a different perspective of our History, history and stories.Note 2: When talking about “continent” in different parts of the answer I mean Latin America.
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