#cass and k2 and jyn and baze and chirrut and bodhi didn't need to be compelled onto that beach. they went even when they were told not to
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i'm also very annoyed about how the symbolism of cassian's character was handled throughout this season. in rogue one and going into season two, the great tragedy of cassian was that he was no one at all -- destined to go unremembered and never live to see the world he gave everything to create. he had been through hell and back not because it had to be that way but because he was brave enough to choose hell in hopes that it might make a better tomorrow. and then he was wiped off the map and the men who destroyed the death star using the plans he stole never knew his name.
according to andor season two, though, cassian was always meant to be on scarif because he's a "messenger." he has lampshaded plot armor until he can die the way he was born to die, because it was always his destiny to make sure those plans made it off that base. also, he is survived by his partner and a child he never knew about, solidifying his legacy. this... is silly. it is beyond noble for cassian to make the willing choice to be forgotten in service of a greater cause. i'm much less compelled if the story is about cassian unintentionally being dragged to his death by fate and then getting remembered as a hero.
#andor spoilers#andor critical#andor s2#cassian andor#also final psa i love this show i really do. the messenger thing was just a huge crazy wild miss for me#also! jyn is the messenger!!! hellloooooo!#someone look me in my eyes and tell me which experience cassian gathered throughout andor that got those plans off scarif#aside from bravery or determination or fierceness or something like that which should be a character trait and not fucking destiny calling?#jyn was the one whose family was hunted to the edges of the galaxy until her mother gifted her a kyber necklace as a memento#the same kyber necklace that brought her to chirrut and baze and that helped get boots on the ground at scarif#jyn was the one whose relationship with saw gerrara allowed the rebels to learn about the death star#jyn was the one whose tenacity thawed cassian's heart and convinced him to rally a force that could take scarif#and the one who inspired rebel leaders to support them there#jyn was the one who was called stardust in youth only to identify the plans like a needle in a haystack because they were named after her#none of the rogue one crew are chosen ones. and this is very important to me#but the messenger concept baffles me because if there WAS a messenger on that crew it was jyn. it was so obviously jyn#i just think making their sacrifice unavoidable cheapens it#cass and k2 and jyn and baze and chirrut and bodhi didn't need to be compelled onto that beach. they went even when they were told not to#because they wanted to help. regardless of if it cost their lives#WHY CANT YOU LET THEM HAVE THAT. GUYS
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so i just watched rogue one aaaand
okey i first watched all the way back in 2016 and as far as i remember it didn't have much inpact on me other than the fact that the rogue one crew all died
and since i was not (and still consider myself not) a star wars fan with a capital F my main takeaway was that it was a fun enough, well shot blockbuster with chirrut and baze's scenes and overall relationship as the main highlight
now after 9 years and the whole Andor show after i can safely say that Rogue one A Star Wars Story is
still a bit of a mess
a amazingly shot and acted mess but still a mess
is well documented the conturbated production that the movie had and i could feel it right at the start
after watching a show full of patience jumping from there to this felt like a extreme wiplash
the score is this felt very distracting right from the start, i just felt like it and the edditing was trying way too hard to make exitmeant on what should have been something more slow and tanse
the story and the dark overcast sky ware screaming for more tempermeant and patiance
so coming from andor who had patiance and a amazying and conscistant score to these loud horns felt vary distracting (it doeas get better as the movie goes on but god it is not my thing at all)
the edditing expecialy on the beginning is way too quick
from jyn in prison to her, cass and K2 going to jedha i could feel a good 30 minutes missing, hell maybe an hour eaven
i just kept thinking how it could have been an entire ep worth of story in this movies first 15 minutes and i know that movies need to be more fast but it was not that uncomon for blockbusters to have 2h30 and those 30 to 40 minutes are very missed here, the biggining felt very stitched together and the characters suffer a lot from a feeling of rushed introductions
the movie is all plot while the show makes its time to be all about characters, wich therefore makes the plot be way more stronger because of it
now, to be fair, it does get batter the longer it goes, its still feels way too fast for me but the story improves a lot once they get out of jedha
and here is were andor makes the movie way better
the show makes everybody matter more by bringin a new way to see them trough new perspectives
before andor, rogue one was filled with characters but after the show it is a story filled with people
the show made its effort to show that every rebel big or small is a person with a whole life and story on their backs and just because they dont have much time onscren does not mean they are worth any less on ther countributions
before andor bodhi rook was the one a care the least, if i rememberd him at all was just because he was played by riz ahmed, but now i see him as almoust the heart of the movie just because of one simple character
syril kern
he is someone who worshipd and worked for the empire for years without realizing his own blindness or just what ther ''order'' truly was, and once he realized what the empire truly is and what he worshipd and actualy halped achive was, he froze, went into a fit of rage then died
to me, bodhi rook is what syril kern could have been
bodhi is nurvous and deperete to help the rebellion in the name of galen erso, he is scared and anxyous and i have a feeling that is because he might not ever had picture himself in the situation he was in
we know nothing about him but by the way he speaks of galen we can tell that he was deeply moved by him
i have a feeling that he is someone who just now had an idea of what the empire really was, and once he realised who he workd for for who knows how long he snaped and was seeing helping the rebellion as a way of redemption but also to honor the man who trusted him, the man who saw his regret and gave him a chance at redemption, something that is not hard to see not many other people doing expecialy to a nobody like him
i have a feeling that bodhi was someone looking for purpose, and galen gave him that after realising how ashamed he must have felt for working for the empire
and that give me the ideas not only what kinda person bodhi was but also who galen erso was
mads mikkelsen acting is way better thanks to this new perspective, he is kind and feels a imanse sense of shame for the wepon he build, so to have jyn as the co protagonist along with cassian feels perfect because now it feels like a chance to galen to clean his soul trough jyn
wich makes her journey now not only to reignite her purpose against the empire and to become a rabel, but also to save her father's soul
and all of these new perspective that makes the characters batter came from just adding the context of andor into the movie
without syril kern, we dont have him as a axample as to why bodhi is so courageos, wich then we dont have galen and then jyn
and of corse you could say that we could have got these points of views by watching the movie alone, and you could be right
but now that we have andor, we have a new way to look at the characters
before it didn't felt like they were people in a galaxy but just archetypes in a rushed movie
but now i can belive how much that massage affacted jyn, how much galen affacted bodhi, how she and him could bond thanks to the his heart
how much jyn could sympathize with chirrut's faith and baze's lack of
and how much of herself she could see in cassian andor
and oh cassian
seeing him here after spending years with him made me see his arc in the movie in a whole new light
more than a massenger, in here i see him as a angel of redemption
he is and alweys was an helper, a savior, someone who makes others see the world in a new light and inspires them to fight
thats how he became radicalized in the first place, all the way back when he had to convince a inmate to tell how many guards there were in every level
thats why i think the beginning needed to have more interactions but now i can see cassian recognising himself in jyn
how much sympathy he has for her now, him trusting a blaster with her feels more genuine, because he knows how it is to be alone and not to trust anyone
he was were she was, paranoid and angry
and we see that paying off in the final moments at the beach, one final moment between equals, between people who recognize one another
cassian not only helps jyn sand the massage but he also helps her to save her fathers soul
like and angel guiding a lost soul to heaven
andor makes rogue one a story about people, people who lost, who sufferd and find together, eaven for a moment, a group of equals
all thanks to jyn erso, who inspired them to come together
and all thanks to cassian andor, who had the hart to see a rabel in all of them
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