#compare him to all the other nobodies and he is WIDDLE
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ive been in my labs conducting nefarious research. [all models from KH2—most are from JP final mix but xaldin and larxene are from the original. wasnt able to find higher-poly models for them]
primarily i made this image to compare xigbar's ass to the rest of the organization (my conclusion being: damn good for you) but holy shit i had gotten so wrapped up in "xigbar is canonically 6'8" that i had somehow not realized "xigbar is smaller than the majority of the adult org members"
#height wise muscle wise width wise. tiny little guy.#the oc i made to ship with him is a foot shorter than him and barely cares for themself. xigbar looks like a demigod standing next to them.#compare him to all the other nobodies and he is WIDDLE#well. except for. gestures at ass region.#also of note: dan xal/lex your bobbie s#also zex whats goin on back there bud. kind of a troubling situation youve got there#also demy is. Concave.#blakeposts#kh#xigbar scholarship tag#xigbar meme tag
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I just saw a take by someone about how Zuko attacking Aang in the finale past 1 shows that he's still violent and angry, and apparently it means he hasn't grown at all. They also compared it to Ozai using violence to teach Zuko a lesson, cause apparently Zuko is doing the same thing to Aang in that scene. I cannot with some of these people.
I've already addressed this argument multiple times so I'm not going to spend a lot of time on it, because it's so obviously a straw man argument. But it's so funny when people try to make this a problem when the characters themselves don't even treat it that way. Zuko explains why he attacked Aang that way and the others agree with him, and also confess that they didn't think to tell Zuko that they were going to wait to fight Ozai, which is what caused the misunderstanding to begin with.
Even so, comparing it to Ozai abusing Zuko is vastly ignorant because there's a clear power dynamic there that is absent between Zuko and Aang, even considering that Zuko is Aang's firebending teacher, because Aang has shown plenty of times that he is capable of defeating Zuko and Zuko has no intention of actually hurting Aang.
Zuko also calms down once the gaang make it clear that they'll actually listen to him, and it's clear that he reacted the way he did because he thought they wouldn't listen, and that is absolutely a symptom of his abuse and the way he was gaslit throughout his life, plus the feelings of fear and shame he feels over being forced to be silent while listening to Ozai's plan. Describing his anger here as violence and comparing him to his abuser is actually really gross.
You know what else? After Zuko tells them how important it is that Aang be ready to defeat Ozai, they actually take a leaf out of Zuko's own training methods shortly after in the same episode.
Toph: [Excited.] So I get to chuck flaming rocks at all of you? Sokka: Whatever makes the training feel more realistic. Toph: Sweetness.
And nobody says "well, actually, I think you should hold back because poor widdle uwu Aang." They all understand that this is a life or death situation and that Aang needs to be ready for the real thing. But also the audience understands in both situations that nobody is really going to get hurt because duh. You have to be really reaching to make this a problem.
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Sonic Bad Guys AU Infodumping
@thefakehedgehogaroundhere pitched the AU and its roles, I went too far and fleshed it out a LOT.
Here's the first round, the basics of the characters:
The Bad Guys go by “Ms. Surge,” Ms. Metal, Mr. Rough, Mr. Tumble, Mr. Duo and Mr. Kitsunami (for fun.)
Backstory: While the AU is mostly just the self-contained plot of the movie, Eggman and Starline did exist in the AU… emphasis on DID. In a very very deliberately loose interpretation of Sonic canon setting up this AU, they created Surge, Kit and Metal, but were ultimately defeated for good, with their former creations and minions being left to form various random organizations including the Bad Guys, none of whom are nearly as much of a threat anymore. Sonic took all the credit for “beating” Eggman, though it probably wasn’t actually him in this AU considering this version of him is also a villain and has just been using his hero image for personal gain (hell, considering his Marmalade-assigned wealth, he probably bought out Eggman Industries after the Doctor was gone.)
Ms. Surge, instead of the “big bad wolf,” boasts about being an “evil twin.” A twisted and evil counterpart to a hero. Of course, she turns out to actually be the good one between herself and Sonic in this AU, but that’s beside the point. She still doesn’t remember her original life and has only experienced being compared to Sonic and seen as a monstrous, evil version of him, never being given any other chance. When Sonic gets exposed as the criminal he is and arrested, Surge, Kit and Metal recognize they’re fully free and able to go good, what with him being put away for good.
Ms. Metal was also originally designed after Sonic (that’s why she and Surge are best friends,) but being “the safe-cracker,” has modified herself with some help from Kit into a heist-focused robot with stealth tech, safe-cracking tools, and the ability to turn into a hyper-boost engine for the getaway car. She’s the “most evil” because she’s still programmed to defeat Sonic, even if she’s currently spending almost all of her time pulling heists with the Bad Guys. She comes around in the end and rejoins Surge and the gang, and stays with her as a good guy after finally taking down Sonic. She’s also kind of addicted to absorbing Wisps.
Mr. Mimic actually goes by Mr. Duo most of the time - he’s made the happy-go-lucky but still evil cat his public identity they think of when they hear the term “Bad Guys.” After genuinely befriending the others, he wants to move on from and forget the even worse crimes he committed as an octopus (even though not necessarily those of his canon self.) That being said, he’s still a shapeshifter and “the distraction.” Instead of Mr. Shark swallowing Mr. Snake when he annoys him, Duo can mess with Metal’s circuits since he’s “good with computers.”
Mr. Rough and Mr. Tumble are the flattest ones, but then again, they always are. They beat the shit out of people, make immature jokes, and Rough uncontrollably sprays when he’s nervous. Mr. Piranha is perfect for both of them (and also for Surge - she’d release catastrophic EMPs - if she wasn’t Mr. Wolf here.)
Mr. Kit is “Drippy” the same way Ms. Tarantula is “Webs.” His laptop has extra monitors and keyboards for his Hydro-Coils the same way as Webs’ does for her eight legs. He’s also still Surge’s younger brother for the feels. Owing to being around 13, he's less anxious and less formal, and with the world aware of his power, more confident in being scary on his own or at his sister's side.
Governor Rose’s backstory as the Crimson Paw Rascal is changed a bit. She, too, gave up just as she was about to steal the Awardy Award (the Golden Dolphin equivalent,) but it was because she realized she’d built her criminal career upon being a “sweet widdle hoggo” who nobody would suspect or believe could be a criminal mastermind, instead blaming more scary or ugly animals. Realizing that not only would some undeserving creature take the fall for the Rascal’s ultimate heist, but she fully knew and wanted to exploit this, just made Amy feel like shit, and she immediately hung up her cowl. Note that this same reason also leads to her despising Sonic for working under the same ideals, and makes her very happy when he’s the one who takes the fall for her crimes in the end.
“A wolf and a fox are not so different” becomes “A tenrec is just a false hedgehog.” Sonic later reuses this line to mock Surge, before Surge and Amy finally wreck him with it in the end.
Sonic as Marmalade? Take every bad take on IDW Sonic in the entire hatedom, make them completely true, and then sprinkle the resulting abomination of a Sonic with Scourge dust. He’s supposedly the same hero as his canon self, but in truth all he cares about is his own entertainment and his own reputation. Lying and manipulating people are what give him “the tingle.” He’s gonna scream “LET’S DO IT TO IT! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!” like in that one satire comic as he’s dragged off to S.U.C.M., utterly determined to the end to convince everyone he’s never done anything wrong in his life. Fuck him. He deserves nothing, he is the scum of the earth, I want to punch him in the face, and maybe call in a few other AU Sonics to punch him in the face too.
Heck, I have an OC named Shine who is basically “Sonic but Marmalade” already, and I’d be willing to donate her for this role if I didn’t want Sonic himself to get to chew some scenery.
We’ve agreed Whisper is Chief Luggins due to her power to be incredibly biased against these people, especially Surge with a good helping of Mimic on the side. Lanolin would work too, but I think Whisper being really angry a lot fits better. You poor wolf, you poor meow meow, you poor thing, how did you end up becoming a cop?... or she's just the face of what's left of the Restoration in this universe. Lanolin can probably be Tiffany the reporter, IDK.
To be continued.
#sth#sonic au#the bad guys#tbg#sonic bad guys au#surge the tenrec#metal sonic#rough the skunk#tumble the skunk#mimic the octopus#duo the cat#kit the fennec#amy rose#surgeamy#sonic the hedgehog#whisper the wolf
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