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driftwithme · 2 years ago
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According to the pacrim wiki, Coyote Tango was the first jaeger the program lost. By that time, Pentecost and Tamsin were not piloting anymore. It was June, 2016.
The order of pre-knifehead fallen jaegers is:
- Coyote Tango. Destroyed in combat against Itak. On its second set of pilots. June, 2016.
- Victory Alpha. Destroyed in combat against Raganarok. The pilots survived. July, 2016.
- Tacit Ronin. Abandoned because its pilots died of neural overload. July, 2016.
- Lucky Seven. Abandoned because one of its pilots was decommissioned. 2019.
Following this pic from the wiki:
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We know that the first jaeger was launched in 2015 (Brawler Yukon) and the last in 2019 (Striker Eureka).
The golden age of the jeager program was from 2017 to 2019, three years of gaining more than they were losing. The peak was in 2019, with 20 active jaegers. The bottom was in 2025, with no jaegers left.
2024 was the year with more deaths, with 8 j-pilots going KIA. Then 2025, with 7 deaths between the Double Event that killed both Cherno and Crimson, and Operation Pitfall, who claimed Pentecost and Chuck.
Between 2019 and 2023 there were 9 KIAs.
Which means Yancy was the first jaeger pilot to die on combat. It makes sense, given the reaction of Penecost to hearing that they had lost Gipsy's signal (and Yancy was dead).
It marks:
- 2019-20: 1 lost jaeger, 1 pilot KIA.
The list of fallen jaegers Post-Knifehead:
- 2020-21: 2 lost jaeger, 1 pilot KIA.
- 2021-22: 3 lost jaegers, 2 pilots KIA.
- 2022-23: 2 lost jaegers, 3 pilots KIA.
- 2023-24: 8 lost jaegers, 2 pilots KIA.
- 2024-25: 0 lost jaegers, 8 pilots KIA.
- 2025: 4 lost jaegers, 7 pilots KIA.
Let's compare all this info with the following Kaiju War Timeline from the wiki:
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A) 2013-2014: The Feral Burst. There were no jaegers yet to defend humanity against the 3 kaijus that invaded the world.
B) 2015-2019: The Long Game, Part I. There were 24 jargers up around this period, with a total of 13 kaijus making contact.
Special mention to the Beckets, who got an impressive mark of 5 kills during those years. It means they helped killed more than a 1/3 of those bastards during the golden era of the jaeger program. For what I see, Raleigh is the only pilot who had ever abandoned the jaeger program because he wanted to, not because he was hurt or kicked out.
C) 2020-2023: The Long Game, Part II. The amount of kaijus who invaded in those three years equals the amount of kaijus who made contact within the first 6 years of the war. It means the precursos sent as many kaijus in half the time. Humanity went into this phase with 19 jaegers. By the end they had 4.
2024 reports 13 kaiju attacks. It makes sense that they lost 8 jaegers and 10 pilots more or less in that year. With 12 jaegers active, it is more than a 1vs1 situation. Something tells me that most of Striker Eureka's kills were during this phase.
Special mention to the Hansen, btw. *During Chuck active years, he participated in almost third of the kaiju killings that happened then. I don't know Lucky Seven's score in this race, but *Herc's win amount to a 1/4 of the whole kaiju fights during his active time.
*The count stops at Mutavore. It does not include the Double Event or Pitfall.
If we include Post-Mutavore but not their participation/assistant at killing Leatherback:
- Chuck: 11 kills, 35 kaiju appereances during his active career (almost a 1/3).
- Herc: 12 kills, 44 kaiju appearances (not counting 2016 and adding at least 2 kills of the Lucky Seven era; around a 1/4).
Yet again, if by statistics alone, Mako is the most winning jaeger pilot of the movie. In her active years there had been 5 kaijus and she has helped kill 4. It's worth mentioning that her debut was on a double event followed by a triple event, with the only Category-5 ever saw. Impressive, to say the least.
On the other hand, Raleigh has helped kill or killed himself almost half of the kaijus that had appear on his active years.
Here: (ratio is 19-20 kaijus, 9 kills).
- 2025: 6 kaijus, 4 kills.
- 2015-2019: 13-14 kaijus, 5 kills.
The Hansens record is impressive just in the sheer size of their killing count, which is still not complete given I don't have the info on Lucky Seven. Meanwhile, Raleigh and Mako are impressive for the efficiency record.
Of the 51 kaijus that invaded the Earth, Gipsy and Striker combine to 20 kills. That means 2/5 of the total.
The last three j-pilots hold the best or most insane records of the program. Herc with the most wins, Mako with the best efficiency and Raleigh fucking Becket who had solo piloted twice and explode a jaeger in another world.
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driftwithme · 2 years ago
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I think this is kinda more complex than one could think because these people dedicate their lives to dealing with monsters that can easily contaminated anything and everything in seconds, okay?
Which means you need special services for washing clothing from the k-science division: dispose of hazmat suits properly, clean the shirts Newt contaminated with Kaiju remains and other weird substances, that sort of stuff and situations.
If we talk about the entire population of the Shatterdome, that means that in the very least a couple of laundromats are involved in the equation. Given that the Shatterdomes are separated by bays and floors, each bay could have it's own pair of laundromats on certain floors. The room assignment in the movie makes me think that officers are also separated in a way they can easily access to their workspaces quicker, which means that separated groups (ex. pilots) have separated laundromats.
There must be also some sort of service for officers that require neat suits, like the blue ones Pentecost and Herc use. The service itself doesn't require many people working on it, because the PPDC uniforms are mostly convenient, but for high ranking officers and maybe pilots that needed to present to the public on a event or something, yeah to get perfectly arranged uniforms is required.
I discarded the idea of separated washing machines because it'd be a waste of space and recourses. In Anchorage at least each room had a mini kitchen and a bathroom, but not a washing machine (I know, I checked). There was enough space from one, sure, but given that there wasn't, it absolutely implies the existence of laundromats dated back to the golden years of the program.
Now, on the subject of the later stage of the program and the Hong Kong Shatterdome? The rooms didn't seem to have a kitchen and instead had a large mess hall, which could be the result of either the precarious situation of the program or the cultural difference on the building of Shatterdomes across the world. In the Hong Kong Shatterdome almost every space seemed to be communitary: the jaeger bay, the mess hall, even the kwoon, all was designed to accommodate as many people as possible, meaning they had to share space
The only other Shatterdome we saw aside from the one in Hong Kong is the one from Anchorage, where the design seemed to be more private or individualistic. Of course, the founds are also a factor: late in the movie the program has no money, contrary to the years Raleigh knew.
Which leads us to conclude that:
Laundromats were the standard of the Jaeger Program.
The distribution and the numbers of laundromats on a Shatterdome depends on the design of said Shatterdome.
Knowing how Guillermo del Toro thinks, there's not special laundromats for high ranking officers. I'd say that maybe it's one laundromat for all pilots and high ranking officers, thinking of three to four jaeger pilot duos per Shatterdome and around 6 high ranking officers on the best years.
There are specialized laundry services for k-scientists or at least laundromats specialized in decontaminating certain clothing. Hazmat suits are a whole story on themselves.
There was an hotel-room-like laundry service back ok the good old days that turned into one or two people doing the favor to the officers just to be loyal to the cause, maybe. Or even the officers (that were not many anyway) started doing it themselves but took some of the laundry equipment to one of the laundromats, probably the one made for pilots and high ranking officers.
Strike forces, j-techs, support services (cooking, cleaning, etc), the med bay and every other division had their own laundromats. Half because there's too much people affiliated to them and half because their uniforms might require different treatments.
for reasons unrelated to fic writing, how do we think laundry service is done in the Shatterdomes? are we talking laundromat style, hotel room service style, or everyone-has-their-own-washing-machine style
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driftwithme · 2 years ago
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It's so cute that Tendo uses a rosarium like a bracelet with his watch on the left hand. It's an amazing detail. It looked like the wooden type, the typical type your grandparents or maybe your mother would give you.
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driftwithme · 2 years ago
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The Becket room at the Icebox Shatterdome:
A bunk bed placed with the head against the wall and the rest in the middle of the room (Raleigh sleeps to his head to the wall and Yancy to his face to the door).
Next to it, a space to train with a boxing bag (black). There are windows on each side of the corner. They seemed to move according to some sensor. There were headphones on one of the windows.
*The lights also seemed to be activated by movement. Or maybe when during a kaiju alert, they'd activate automatically to help wake up the pilots.
An holographic screen from under the bed reflecting on the space where the windows and the boxing bag is.
A kitchen that consisted of a sink with cabinets above, a stove of one or two burners, a stove and a mini-fridge. They had a coffee machine next to the stove; cutlery for two, soap, sponge and all that on the side of the sink; two plates, some pans (around three) and two bottles of pills on the cabinets above; and orange juice on the mini-fridge. The kitchen is full of photos taped to the cabinets and the walls next to it, far away enough so they wouldn't get splashes on or burned by accident. It reads CX-13(?) above the kitchen.
The door of the room reads 598.
There's a bathroom with two toothbrush kits on the bathroom sink and a mirror with six more photos. The door to the bathroom has the G. Danger wings logo on it, with the stylized name and each kaiju mark to signal their killing count.
Next to the wall there's a Kaiju Alarm with three lights (green, yellow and red). The alarm reads "Kaiju - Alarm 7" and underneath it reads "KA I__1057".
Most photos are of places. One of them seemed to enjoy looking at architecture and taking pics of it.
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driftwithme · 2 years ago
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Laughing at Raleigh using the collar of his G. Danger leather jacket up! Also he bounced so much on his step, it's actually cute to me the level of dramatic confidence he displays.
Also Raleigh jacket looks slightly longer than Yancy's? Maybe it's because Raleigh is taller and Yancy is a bit broader, but who knows.
Note: even when he was bulkier in muscle around the shoulders and back, he had a slim waist and his ribs marked a bit. He also had a slight arc to his walking that Yancy didn't do.
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driftwithme · 2 years ago
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For what I see the Conn-Pod techs on the G. Danger team used the typical patches of the PPDC (left) and the J-Tech Division (right) on the shoulders, the nametag on the left side of the chest and the right side of the chest was reserved for 1) The USA flag, 2) A patch to identify where they worked previosly.
Most of them must had been militars, so it makes sense that they wanted to keep some patch of their previous workplaces.
I so at least two different patches of those. One of a white skull on a black patch and one with yellow wing motive on a black patch.
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driftwithme · 2 years ago
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I totally agree!
In that sense, this post must be read like a basic reference to be changed and adapted, instead lf a definitive timeline. The only piece completely canon is the 2013 movie, exactly what Beacham stated when asked about the novels and other material. However, the info avaible is limited and highly contradicted, so I guessed many fanfic writers and pacrim fans could benefit from a basic timeline of the jaeger program, even if mistaken in some points. Like a starting point, you get me?
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This are the answers I offer:
1) In regards of the real number and names of all the jeagers that have ever participated in the jaeger program.
I propose taking the statistics above as the official information released for the public in the years the program was active. The PPDC agreed that it was not wise to make a jaeger public from the start, since something could go wrong in any phase and the jaeger could end up not even getting to the pilots phase or simply never working its way to a real fight
Announcing a jaeger is not a light task. You're playing the hope of the people, the opinion of nations. In the movie, the people started rioting in protest after Mutavore in defense of the jaeger program. That's the influence the program holds. So, I can see why it was a political strategy to make the jaeger program see as successful as possible from the start.
That's why only 24 jaegers in total achieved the public status. Yet, there's an entire secret branch of jaegers that never made it to the public for several reasons, be as:
They halted construction phase to use the parts of that jaeger to fix another big and already known jaeger after a fight.
The already known jaegers are the priority.
In other words, it means that any part from an unknown jaeger that could be used to fix the damage caused to a public jaeger in a kaiju fight was to be used, no exceptions. Those were the champions of the program with an already stablished j-pilot and j-tech crew, a kaiju killing score, famous to the public eye and millions of dollars invested in their existances.
So yeah, they were the priority.
Two jaegers ended up getting mixed into one to save funds and hurry the process.
There's a possibility that there were many jaegers in the making that ended up hurried and mixed together because, well, maybe their traits complemented each other nicely or they had only one j-pilot team avaible or they needed a jaeger asap, so it was cheaper to mix the best of the j-tech crews and build one jaeger, not two. In the papers, it counts as three separate products, the two originals and the result.
The jaeger failed the first drop. It could be a mismatch of pilots, a problem with the jaeger parts or anything, really. If it didn't make it to the fight (and thus the public) in its first drop, the announcing was delayed.
To avoid embarrassing themselves, the program decided that the jaegers were only to be announced after their debut. This rule could have been stablished on the golden era of the program as a PR strategy to keep the public optimistic.
Whatever other reason you can think of.
Provisional names could have been assigned left and right, with the rule of never repeating elements that were already used by one of the public/famous jaegers. Or they could be used as a reference, but must had changed before the debut of the jaeger in question.
Alternatively, Pentecost comment about the "30 jaegers" could be regarding the capacity of the Hong Kong Shatterdome and not the real number of active jaegers there.
It could be that the Hong Kong Shatterdome was created to house every avaible jaeger in the program, active at the moment or not, in case it was needed to get them in one place. It doesn't make sense to me that Hong Kong alone could have 30 active jaegers. The cost would be too high, it meant they had over 60 j-pilots that died or got incapacitated, etc.
Maybe (maybe!) they projected the war to be slow passed and were planning 30 jaegers in the future, like from years to come. Or they were already researching in smaller, lighter, one-pilot jaegers. Who knows. Truth is that is impossible for the Hong Kong Shatterdome to have housed 30 jaegers during the golden era, so this is a rational solution to that.
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2) In regards of abandoning jaegers given the inability of the rangers to continue piloting.
Talking specifically about the Lucky Seven to Striker Eureka case, it could be that it was cheaper and safer to focus all efforts on the first and only Mark-5 ever than force Chuck and Herc to continue to pilot Lucky Seven. Also, they could have used parts of the old jaeger to fix or even make Striker, or other jaegers. If the old jaeger had any damage and needed money to fix, I don't see why the Australians would have halted the repairs to concentrate on Eureka.
Tacit Ronin could be something like that. In that sense, the pilots not being avaible could be more of an excuse to decomision a jaeger they planned to decomision anyway. Maybe the particular cost of reparing the jaeger was too high and it was more useful as scratch or the jaeger had too many internal issues for it to be worthy of a whole repair.
If we think of the Gipsy Danger restoration program, we could say many fallen jaegers contributed to Gipsy getting in shape again. Oblivion Bay was like a crazy lab for j-techs to mix and play and create new jaegers from already existing parts. Maybr anything older than Mark-3 was to stay decomisioned after some level of damage, maybe everyone was too excited with the Mark-5 pre-Knifehead and then they were too busy repairing the active jaegers to pay attention to the oldies.
You can even take Pentecost's comment of Mako being one of the brightest and apply it to this mess. Maybe hers is the first solution to a restoration program that not only was sucessfull but also had a cost that the UN would agree to cover.
I know this post is freaking long and that this solutions are tentative at best, but well, I had to raise to the challenge.
I hope this proves useful! I love pacrim and the pacrim fandom creations, so I wanted to contribute to the worldbuilding in whatever way I could!
According to the pacrim wiki, Coyote Tango was the first jaeger the program lost. By that time, Pentecost and Tamsin were not piloting anymore. It was June, 2016.
The order of pre-knifehead fallen jaegers is:
- Coyote Tango. Destroyed in combat against Itak. On its second set of pilots. June, 2016.
- Victory Alpha. Destroyed in combat against Raganarok. The pilots survived. July, 2016.
- Tacit Ronin. Abandoned because its pilots died of neural overload. July, 2016.
- Lucky Seven. Abandoned because one of its pilots was decommissioned. 2019.
Following this pic from the wiki:
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We know that the first jaeger was launched in 2015 (Brawler Yukon) and the last in 2019 (Striker Eureka).
The golden age of the jeager program was from 2017 to 2019, three years of gaining more than they were losing. The peak was in 2019, with 20 active jaegers. The bottom was in 2025, with no jaegers left.
2024 was the year with more deaths, with 8 j-pilots going KIA. Then 2025, with 7 deaths between the Double Event that killed both Cherno and Crimson, and Operation Pitfall, who claimed Pentecost and Chuck.
Between 2019 and 2023 there were 9 KIAs.
Which means Yancy was the first jaeger pilot to die on combat. It makes sense, given the reaction of Penecost to hearing that they had lost Gipsy's signal (and Yancy was dead).
It marks:
- 2019-20: 1 lost jaeger, 1 pilot KIA.
The list of fallen jaegers Post-Knifehead:
- 2020-21: 2 lost jaeger, 1 pilot KIA.
- 2021-22: 3 lost jaegers, 2 pilots KIA.
- 2022-23: 2 lost jaegers, 3 pilots KIA.
- 2023-24: 8 lost jaegers, 2 pilots KIA.
- 2024-25: 0 lost jaegers, 8 pilots KIA.
- 2025: 4 lost jaegers, 7 pilots KIA.
Let's compare all this info with the following Kaiju War Timeline from the wiki:
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A) 2013-2014: The Feral Burst. There were no jaegers yet to defend humanity against the 3 kaijus that invaded the world.
B) 2015-2019: The Long Game, Part I. There were 24 jargers up around this period, with a total of 13 kaijus making contact.
Special mention to the Beckets, who got an impressive mark of 5 kills during those years. It means they helped killed more than a 1/3 of those bastards during the golden era of the jaeger program. For what I see, Raleigh is the only pilot who had ever abandoned the jaeger program because he wanted to, not because he was hurt or kicked out.
C) 2020-2023: The Long Game, Part II. The amount of kaijus who invaded in those three years equals the amount of kaijus who made contact within the first 6 years of the war. It means the precursos sent as many kaijus in half the time. Humanity went into this phase with 19 jaegers. By the end they had 4.
2024 reports 13 kaiju attacks. It makes sense that they lost 8 jaegers and 10 pilots more or less in that year. With 12 jaegers active, it is more than a 1vs1 situation. Something tells me that most of Striker Eureka's kills were during this phase.
Special mention to the Hansen, btw. *During Chuck active years, he participated in almost third of the kaiju killings that happened then. I don't know Lucky Seven's score in this race, but *Herc's win amount to a 1/4 of the whole kaiju fights during his active time.
*The count stops at Mutavore. It does not include the Double Event or Pitfall.
If we include Post-Mutavore but not their participation/assistant at killing Leatherback:
- Chuck: 11 kills, 35 kaiju appereances during his active career (almost a 1/3).
- Herc: 12 kills, 44 kaiju appearances (not counting 2016 and adding at least 2 kills of the Lucky Seven era; around a 1/4).
Yet again, if by statistics alone, Mako is the most winning jaeger pilot of the movie. In her active years there had been 5 kaijus and she has helped kill 4. It's worth mentioning that her debut was on a double event followed by a triple event, with the only Category-5 ever saw. Impressive, to say the least.
On the other hand, Raleigh has helped kill or killed himself almost half of the kaijus that had appear on his active years.
Here: (ratio is 19-20 kaijus, 9 kills).
- 2025: 6 kaijus, 4 kills.
- 2015-2019: 13-14 kaijus, 5 kills.
The Hansens record is impressive just in the sheer size of their killing count, which is still not complete given I don't have the info on Lucky Seven. Meanwhile, Raleigh and Mako are impressive for the efficiency record.
Of the 51 kaijus that invaded the Earth, Gipsy and Striker combine to 20 kills. That means 2/5 of the total.
The last three j-pilots hold the best or most insane records of the program. Herc with the most wins, Mako with the best efficiency and Raleigh fucking Becket who had solo piloted twice and explode a jaeger in another world.
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