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#had a similar convo with a gungho military rotc girl
vamptastic · 2 years
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a lot of people are being lied to by their parents and teachers and pastors and a lot of people don't want to ever confront that fact. doesn't matter how much access to information has improved, i think the core of the issue is still primarily that people don't feel comfortable with changing their minds, whether it's because it'd isolate them from family, or because they'd have to confront that they were wrong or did something wrong. ive spoken to so many people my age where ive spent hours digging into their misfounded belief, figuring out what misinfo they were told and why, used the internet to firsthand show them exactly what lie they were told and empirical evidence of the truth, and then had them go, yeah, well, i still disagree. i mean, dont automatically assume someone is wrong because they have the same access to info as you and are just stupid, but willful ignorance is definitely still a thing.
#fine ill go ask my mom but you're still wrong and vaccines are dangerous#talked to this antivaxx kid#figured out exactly why he thought that#he said an uncle went into a coma and died of uhh think it was the polio vax in the 70s#sounded weird to me so i looked up stats on polio vaccine deaths n showed them to him. asked if he was allergic#kid said no. said it happens to tons of people while i showed him stats on how it doesnt#i mean the medical anomaly he was describing in the specific time/place was literally impossible#i think his uncle died of aids maybe exacerbated by early hiv drugs and his family lied to him tbh#but like man i was literally showing him stats on this specific drug#looking up his uncles name finding zero news reports on his death or any similar to his#i mean hed been told a lie he had so clearly been told a lie#and the best i got out of him was#fucking. pre covid vaccine too. people are sometimes just. Wrong on purpose.#had a similar convo with a gungho military rotc girl#cos i was chatting w a friend about her recruiter brother and we were both like damn. hate the military.#and this girl butts in to say oh i wanna be a marine with this tone of like. checkmate libtard. salute me and respect my service right now.#she had literally sat there. for upwards of an hour. hearing from a direct secondhand source exactly what lies recruiters tell#EXACTLY how recruiters are lied to themselves. by someone ALSO FROM a military family#and just. didnt listen. at all.#i personally did not fucking like her so i just raised my voice kept making my points to my friend and ignored her#but like man she had all the information. she sat there and watched us verify it and discuss it and just didn't absorb any of it.#had another similar thing with a kid about neopronouns-told him about leslie feinberg and stone butch blues and told him to google it#(because again he had just butted into my convo and i didnt want to spend an hour reading quotes to him)#fucking. completely ignored me said maybe that's true but i still think this neopronouns business is stupid. you're ok though.#not that he used the pronouns. that HE asked for. for me after that.#like man. okay. i do my fucking level best to talk to these people. i give them the tools. they HAVE the tools#people also just don't fucking want to confront their beliefs and don't want to do the most basic research!
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