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u should rate the batgirls on a scale of most evil to least evil 😈👀
Disclaimer on this: I have not read enough batgirl runs to actually have a valid opinion on this
These also aren’t in order, it’s a 1-10 evil rating scale
Bette Kane Bat-Girl: her batgirl costume gives home made vibes in not a bad way, I think this moreso has to do with the time she was written. It’s nice, I could do a closet cosplay of her and have everyone go “what? Who?”
Taking points away for 1. Having a crush on Dick Grayson, she is leagues above him 2. Hawkfire is just not a good name 3. Enrolled at West Point
Adding evil points for 1. Being born rich
3/10 Could be more evil
Babs the baddie Gordon Batgirl (without the dash): babs is a baddie what else can I say, she slays, she has leagues of hot vigilante women begging to be pegged by her, she has a pathetic mound of sad wet cat men whose prostate she gets to torture. She’s a red head. I have a thing for red heads.
Taking points away for 1. Dick Grayson relationship curse 2. Cop dad (sorry :/) 3. Her time as batgirl isn’t as badass as her time as Oracle, I love to see a good character progression but this isn’t Babs as a finished masterpiece
Adding points for 1. God I really like red heads
6/10 great evil potential, god forbid women do anything
Helena Bertinelli sliding in as what appears to be a technicality: cleaning up where Bruce continuously fails it seems, also a baddie, backstory introduces great possibility for her to be a weird human being (as seen in Birds of Prey movie) (hot)
Deducting points for 1. Goddamnit can we stop trying to fuck dick Grayson
Adding points for 1. Getting shit done when Batman is laying down on the job smdh 2. The mask is hot 3. Too powerful for this world
7/10 evil rating, I think we should give her a gun
Cassandra Cain: every lesbians dream, constantly serving cunty looks, grossly misused by the batfam fandom to be in service of the male characters; like every woman in DC and on this list: deserves better
I cannot deduct points: she is my perfect meow meow, I don’t want to put her in a Pringles can and shake, I want her to do that to me
Adding points: 1. Best fighter 2. (Hot take) in lesbian love with Barbara in such a good way 3. Has not tried to fuck dick Grayson as far as I can tell
10/10 perfectly evil in every way, I don’t want to give her a gun because she doesn’t fucking need one to destroy the world, we are lucky she hasn’t already.
Stephanie Brown: the definition of deserves better, someone really needs to eat this woman out. Give her some PTO. I hope Bruce is paying for every expense as reparations in exchange for NOTHING from her
Deducting points 1. We all saw this coming, fucked Tim Drake
Adding points: 1. Purple baddie 2. Causes trouble for everyone and even herself
6.5/10 Stephanie brown does deserve a gun and some adderall as a treat
Misfit (Charlotte?): first and only person on this “all batgirls in order” list to not be referred by an actual human name, instant sympathy points
Apparently can explode people with her mind so that’s pretty fucking cool
No deductions
Adding for 1. Not fucking dick Grayson
8/10 let her explode more people with her mind
Barbara Wilson: costume fuck so hard
Alfred’s niece apparently, Barbara I’m sorry your existence relies solely on how big of a role Jim Gordon got in the film
4/10 let her explode people with her mind too
Nissa: her character wiki on this list only have one line of text but “batgirl of Neo Gotham” sounds pretty baddass
2/10 live your best life girlie
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✍️🤪🥰😡🌦️🏷️❤️💞☕️🛌🪐💘🙈💌👀 4 the canonical ask game since u said you wanted it ~ ⋆⁺。˚⋆Generous Anon⋆˚。⁺⋆
youre a madman. you are. everything i have ever wanted. i'm doing this for both my s/i's because i just. i can. you are my hero.
SPANDAM
✍️: Overall, how does the fandom trait you? Are you a beloved character, or hated? Are you popular, or a minor side character? Anything in between?
Definitely more of a side character. There's a lot of uh. weird dudebros in the fandom that despise LQBTQIA+ characters so I feel like that group would hate them, while the fellow queers would probably find them pretty neat. Definitely more of a side character, all things considered.
🤪: What is your trait that fanon would exaggerate?
The autism. DEFINITELY the autism. Also, Pluto is genuinely devoted to her work as a cleaner, but I imagine that would be misinterpreted as “i love to clean!” Instead of “this is what I do, i’m just good at it.” If glossed over.
🥰: How would someone who loved you portray you?
I don't really know. People in the fandom use a lot of words for their faves. Great autistic rep? They/She icon? Tough ass underdog who deserves the world? I just... don't know. Very positively I imagine, with heavy emphasis on the less obvious bits of symbolism and story hints that are present? Probably loved by the over analyzers.
😡: How would someone who hated you portray you?
Annoying, failed tradwife material that was turned into a “stupid gay" who got written in to make Spandam less hateable, or getting in the way of other ships (this is incorrect)
🌦️: Would you be accompanied by mostly fluff or angst fanfics? Both? Explain why.
I feel like a mix of both? There's a lot of brutality and pain that can be grabbed from their backstory and youth, so it could go a number of ways depending on what's focused on.
🏷️: What is you and your f/o’s ship name?
I haven’t thought of this, myself! Pluspan? Spando? Coffeemops? Who knows. I imagine there would be a bunch.
❤️: How popular is you x your f/o? Are you a rarepair?
Considering Spandam isn’t a very popular character and there is already at least one minor fandom ship with him, not a rarepair since canon but probably not like, popular. A niche ship. Definitely a few specific superfans who churn out fanworks.
💞: Aside from with your f/o, who else would you commonly be shipped with? Why?
Probably Jabra, Kumadori or Fukurou, since there would be canonical flashbacks of them interacting with the three during her time in Enies Lobby, and she was friendly with them and able to handle their antics. Especially among the “they deserve better!” crowd.
☕️: What are the most common plots of shipping fics between you and your f/o?
I imagine a lot of fics would involve their time at Enies lobby and the happenings then. That and timeskips/post-ending fics, since there’s not a lot to work with between what would be given.
🛌: What tropes show up in fics involving your ship?
Definitely forbidden love, one sided pining and a lot of slow burn. I haven’t thought about this one much. OH, hurt-comfort and whump.
🪐: What would be your most popular AU and why?
Hear me out. Arranged marriage or royalty aus. I just feel it. I don’t know why, but it feels like those would be all over the place. Also! Aus where they stayed at Enies lobby during the actual arc and buster call, for maximum angst.
💘: Why would people love your ship? Why would people dislike your ship? How might it start debates?
People would love it for its nuance and deeper story that is hidden in the “show don’t tell” sort of presentation, as well as it being an unexpectedly healthy outcome. People would hate it because 1: spandam, 2: you gave the queer rep to spandam? 3: They deserve better
Debate wise oh my GOD I feel like somehow discourse would start from some dumb reason to call it problematic or the really weird new “two grown adults have an age gap” argument. (And no, I’m not referring to the very much questionable the middle aged man/woman creeping on a freshly 18 year old thing, that weird me out too.)
I think overall, they would have an older fanbase.
🙈: Why would your ship be thought of as cute/fluffy? Why would your ship be considered problematic?
I mean, this is Spandam. There will be people who will automatically see it as “he doesn’t deserve them” or with critically low media literacy, “him having a love interest is problematic”. Outside of that, I feel like the people who like it would see it as pretty wholesome and hopeful with the dynamics.
💌: How would your dynamic be portrayed? What might people focus on most? Any misconceptions?
I feel like the dynamics would be very easily misconstrued due to how... you know, shitty Spandam is in canon. Their relationship is strange and complex but healthy and structured, just contains a long winding road to get there. Mischaracterization of either would definitely lead to assumptions about the relationship. As for focuses, I feel like power dynamics would hold a big part.
👀: How does your ship with your f/o influence both of your characterisations and the world? Would there be any interesting metas written about your dynamic?
Spandam would definitely have more apologists thanks to their interactions, his overall characterization is definitely less brutal as his actions would have some more lore behind them and be less harsh due to the positive influence of Pluto, but he's still a huge shit. Meta wise, I feel like people would absolutely tear into Pluto's willingness to accommodate him and how that changes him as time goes on. On pluto's side, autism in relationships would be a big thing to analyze with the way they act.
OUGHHHH ITS DONE I'LL DO GULDO LATER
#asks#self ship community#long post#s/i#ive been working on this for AGES LMFAO#selfship headcanons#lore#finally posting something#my stuff#👑Gilded Wastebasket🧹
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Since the Given dub came out recently, I'm going to post my thoughts from when I watched the sub for the first time (this was about April 2020):
As a warning, there will be minimal consistency when I refer to characters as it took me nearly the entire anime to remember their names. My comments are also very vague... Have fun :p
1.
The dog.. adorable
Oh it's sub. Okay I can vibe with this
Oh boo you look so sad
"I'm not lonely" who are you kidding. Lowkey what a mood tho
~DePrEsSiOn NaPs~
This dude really just be sleeping on the school stairs, huh?
Of course he knows how to fix the guitar
Kageyama and Hinata look great together
Bitch you sacrificed your own nap time to help this bitch
Oh my god! TSuki
Blond Asahi too!!
Of course the one with piercings is the drummer
What a great sibling relationship depicted here
Ginger Boy be depresso
'Where's he sneaking off to?' 'Somewhere gay probably'
He just looks scary.
So he's just in the band now?
BING
The silent conversations between Kaji and Ponytail are great
Ooo THIS IS PRETTY (and so are they tbh)
Yama really be holding this entire relationship (?) together huh
Boy get back to practice
Ue really said gay confusion
His fingers are bandaged 🥺
Sato really went "It was perfect but,, it didn't have you"
2.
Episode 2 really be breaking out the L word
Sato really said "am babey"
These boys have no right being this pretty
SOMEONE JUST HUGGED SATO IN THE OPENING PRECIOUS
((my friend just laughed when I told her. I'm scared))
Sato is literally just the audience. No idea what's going, wants to learn an instrument now, in love with Eunoyama
Friend 1: skipping basketball again? Friend 2: *points to Sato, smiling* Friend 1: alright then
Further confirming Sato is me: doesn't know anyone's name
This boy really is clueless.
NO. Kaji, you get back here and say what's on your mind 😠
Haru that's adorable. Great job, sweetie
Euno has gay confusion/rage. Haru has gay panic
*casual ripped Kaji*
Motorcyclist, fancy waiter, AND security guard?? Whoever he ends up with is one lucky dude
SATO seems unapproachable? That CHILD? That precious bean??
I'm sensing Yama's picking up on the angst I shouldn't know about yet 👀
OH NO HE FROWN :(
*gay glitter floats while singing*
oh my he cry :'(
3.
This whole "I'm not lonely" thing is going to be a trope isn't it? I'm going to end up crying because of it, aren't I?
Oh we starting sad huh? Okay, FINE.
Oo, Haru jealous
I love that they know he's in love before he does
The audacity Sato possesses sometimes
OH SHIT KAJI DUMPED YAYOI
Yama is too precious with his WikiHow article
Yama has fallen hard
Sweater Haru? Absolutely. Plain button up Kaji? Maybe not...
Kenma's here too!
Trauma! Trauma! Trauma!
Oh god no the phone call
(Theory: the poor boy has cried so much he can't anymore)
When people tell you you look like you aren't thinking about anything and they're right but it's only to stop the tears haha am I right guys
Gay rage. That's it.
I'm sorry. A capella singing is not for me. He's beautiful but this is so cringey
He's trying so hard, aw
4.
Yama's writing a love sooonnngg
~And he can only be awakened by true love shouting his name across the entire room
Sato's smug ass smirk. Yama's whipped folks
I've never seen so many cinnamon rolls act so threatening before
Yama looks into the frickin camera my lord
Haru's ugly shoes match his guitar case 🙄
Yama just wants to see his baby happy
His contact photo for Sato is his pupper 🥺
Sato really is clueless. He must be protected
Oh chickie's friend about to spill some tea
5.
Haru has amazing hair. Good for him :)
This is the first time I saw the lyrics for the opening. Nooo
Bro that's gay
Haru I feel omg awww
Oop flashback 👀
Saaaaammme Haru. Kaji be fine as hell
I'm waiting for something bad to happen to Kaji. Or some sort of shoe to drop. This is all going too well
Oh no 2 mugs
Oh NO a brunette
Yama is always asleep
Haru is definitely getting drunk on purpose
Drunk actions are sober thoughts
"MEH. TOO MUCH WORK."
Haru got cock blocked by alcohol being alcohol lol
*Cue cute montage of band bonding
(They're always showing airplanes in the sky. Is this some sort of symbolism?)
THIS MF BITCH JUST OUTED HIM. HOW RUDE 🤬
I didn't know it was his bf 😥 I thought it was his brother
Don't get involved with him. Ya couldn't have told him that before he fell head over heels for his oblivious ass ??
6.
Oh no, him.
Akaashi is here now too
Kaji really said Sato's the soft uwu to their hard core owo
~That's called love bromo~
Oh biTCH HE KNOWS EXACTLY HOW YOU FEEL
Haru doesn't even know the storm he just released by saying 'relationship'
Sato just accidentally got dark very quickly.
That dog is so fine being left all alone. Suspicious.
We walking down memory lane
I'm getting real sad on memory lane and nothing's happened yet.
"I'm not lonely" but this time it hits different; it's like he actually believes it this time
Cud-dle! Cud-dle! Cud-dle!
Yama casually dies
Gee, I wonder what his lyrics could be 🤔 ? Totally not the credits or whatever. Absolutely not
(I took a break bc I was tired and it was 2am)
7.
Oo yes the Kaji background I've been waiting for
Haru really is like Asahi, precious
They sure do love their vending machine beverages.
One hit K.O.
Yama asking Kaji, who is openly bi, if there's something wrong with him for liking a guy is too precious
Is Sato falling more in love or is his heart breaking? I can't tell at this point
*awkward cartoon accordion music plays*
Just when I think we're never going to get back to Kaji, here we go
Ngl Mysterious Brunet is kinda cute. Good for Kaji
When you need a hug so bad and someone finally gives you one
8.
Sato's little sweater tucked into his jeans aww
We haven't actually seen Yuki yet, have we?
I cannot tell if Kaji's home life is flashbacks or real. I am confused and intrigued
They've ramped up the number of slow, dramatic montages. Stuff's getting serious
This is awkward...
YES SATO!! FEEL YOUR FEELS
Why does Kashima need to be forgiven? What did he know??
No Sato!! 😢 (no wonder he said he didn't have a dad)
A whole ass episode. Give me the damn performances!!!
9.
This episode better be amazing or gay I stg
Haru really came in here being like 'Broken strings happen all the time? Fix it and let's move on. C'mon guys'
I'm waiting for Sato to just bust out some spectacular vocals from nowhere and everyone will be Shook™ (especially Yama)
(When replacing guitar strings, do you have to replace them all at the same time? That seems wasteful but I understand why one would)
Sato is so soft but he is so b r o a d
YES. BE SHOOK
Kaji's little smile of approval :')
No I did not have to pause to restrain from crying. What? Who would do that? Certainly not me 😳
*finishes singing a song about his dead bf* *immediately gets kissed but new love interest*
"I'm not lonely"
So our precious little cinnamon roll isn't so innocent after all
10.
Oh she having a breakdown fellas. She cutting her haiiirrrr
Rewind??
He did a damn rewind for his own life! Aha
At least she had someone's hand to hold. He was up there all alone
Music video! Music video!
Sure you will. Just leave after stopping in. Totally won't stay any longer
JUST FIVE MORE MINUTES
Yama said 'I may not have been your first but would you mind me being your last?'
Oh my god this was the first time he felt like he was allowed to talk. Without being hurt. Or reprimanded. Or any consequences. I need to give this poor boy a hug 😭
Sato being so blunt is perfect ("my dead boyfriend's mom..." so casually)
Kaji is such a Dad I love him
Oop is Kenma gay for Akaashi ? 👀 (or vice versa. Probably more vice versa)
Not a fan of Mysterious Brunet -_-
Yama's a simp
Yama is WHIPPED by this boy
Sato may be quiet but he certainly knows what he wants
Oh shit the L word already?
11.
Yama kissed him and he's shocked that he likes him back?
This whole 'internal dialogue' thing is great
Haru and Kaji: dating within the band is a big no-no, huh Yama: oh no but I <3 Sato Haru and Kaji, also: sexual tension whomst?
Everyone babies Sato
The winter coats are so extra
They are not a serious band. Of course that was a bad idea.
Does his stylist friend,, not know??
Give me your hand. It's dangerous.
Haru . Wants a, girlfriend? Oh? (Boys are a pain tho, I feel)
I want more?? How did Yuki die? Is Kaji dating Brunet or is he really just a roommate? Can Haru and Kaji just get together already??
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Congrats on making it to the end of this mess! Remember how I said I couldn't remember any of their names? This was the key I used while I was watching:
{Sato-ginger, Eunoyama-Tobio, Kaji-piercings, Haruki-ponytail, Yayoi-sister}
Needless to say I've learned a lot about this show since I wrote this. I'm excited to see how the dub turned out!
#given#haruki given#mafuyu given#akihiko given#given sub#given dub#commentary#anime#pandemic watch party#i only started watching anime like 8 months before this#i think that's crazy#sorry for all the haikyuu references#the resemblances are uncanny#want me to do another?#probably not#that's okay
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