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#i feel like this is like on par w mgk & eminem jdjsjd
jewpacabruhs · 5 years
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uwucartman hit me tf up i jus wanna chat. bitch ass callin my friends bullies & shit but refusing to address that this has never been about top & fucking bottom discourse, that's personal opinion but we've never started discourse over that
there, however, has been discourse over one damn thing, the same damn thing, every time discourse pops up, in fact: why allowing a character who is canon antisemitic to have power over kyle while maintaining his antisemitism is fucking gross. that should be fucking clear. thats all my personal position has ever been.
wonder why we've deemed mountain bad? cuz at least 60% of them, "kyman queen" included, support, romanticize, enable, & even fetishize cartman's abuse! yeah, being actively antisemitic, even casually, while in a relationship with a jewish person is abuse!
the stance of most tie-pines, at least the ones in my friends & mutuals circle, is that cartman needs to unlearn his antisemitism to be able to be in a healthy relationship with kyle, and to, hell, deserve him in the first place. that's our view on that.
countless mountains do not see the harm in letting cartman continue to be bigoted! why the fuck would you pair a jewish character you supposedly like with a character that continues to view him through an inhuman lense. yall do realize that's how cartman views jews within canon, right? everytime you let him affectionately call kyle "jew" in a fic, that's cartman calling kyle a word he canon associates as meaning stupid or an asshole - like how old white dudes view the f slur. it's casual hatred out of cartman's mouth, even when he supposedly loves kyle in fics or even art. not to mention ww2 aus are entirely a mountain fap sesh. ive seen many denounce them, but the fact is, only mountains seek them out or write them at all. & i shouldnt have to explain why romanticizing genocide is problematic lmao.
so why why why would you encourage that kyman dynamic? if you're yummy, i get why (we've talked to her several times, she thinks her white boyfriend calling her, a latina woman, slurs is totally acceptable, & she also thinks oppression isn't real and neither is the golden rule, so she's a lost cause lmao), but otherwise, don't you have the decency to go, "hey, okay, things spiraled outta hand & got accidentally super hostile, but maybe i should make an effort to research & learn & ultimately portray kyle & deal with kyman in a way that's not harmful, out of respect"? just bc it's the right damn thing to do?
anyway, the height and top/bottom shit and even kyle's features in art are all related to this.
see, i don't mind tall cartman. i mind that nearly every damn person who likes cartman tall, also likes him having power & control over kyle, which makes me very uncomfortable, given their canon nature.
i don't mind bottom kyle either! realistically, they'd switch! but i don't like how bottom kyle is portrayed by mountains. it feels cheap, yaoi-inspired, and, above all, antisemitic, once again! you're taking an iconic jewish character & stripping him of his personality, of his features, to exaggerate one or two of the attractive or endearing ones (his ass, his apparently-cutesy anger lmao), so he's easier to wack off too. it's just gross to me.
and finally, similar deal with his facial features. mountains (and i've been speaking generally this whole time; not all do this) have a very specific view of kyle that i feel is not canon and that, more importantly, erases his jewishness heavily. erasure is a form of antisemitism. deciding that his canon big nose and his canon fro hair don't fit the prettyboy look you want him to have, is antisemitism.
i know for a fact that lai & all my other close friends agree with me nearly word for fucking word, we've discussed this repeatedly. and guess what? some of my friends do like mountain! they like top cartman, they like short kyle. but guess what? they do it respectfully, so i trust them. i don't mind it.
so yeah, smdh at this uwucartman bitch refusing to talk to the jewish kymans even though all this fucking discourse, once again, same as six months ago, boils down to antisemitism. this is jewish people (and people who care strongly about their jewish friends + justice in general, in lai's case) addressing something that bothers them, & mountains once again refusing to listen. it's literally so fucking clear yall dont value jewish opinions and yall dont respect jewish characters, & therefore im deciding yall dont deserve kyle at all. i mean i cant stop you, but i want yall to rlly think abt it. are you doing kyle justice, and does he deserve to be portrayed the way mountains portray him?
uwucartman, u mad bro? talk to me. lets work it out.
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