#i hate that freak but she didn't deserve to be dehumanized like that

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Idk if someone already talked about this or not, but when Ha-ni asked him how she's different from the other humans and the hunter old man empashized how he liked Ha-ni cause she's empty with no desires or dreams etc, it's just feels so fucking dehumanizing wtf. Like how some awful parents in real life like their child better if they're an obedient soulless empty shell that the parents could control and order to do whatever they please, not a human being with their own will and desire

I know this might be intended as a subversion to the classic "grumpy old man accidentally adopting a young girl" trope, but in the end, it still icks me off. Glad he got his fucking karma in the end

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OMG "dehumanizing". Brrr

Ever since I entered MHA fandom I dreaded that word, because only this fandom (that I know) uses "dehumanizing" which in any other fandom (that I know) means extreme violation of human rights but in MHA fandom means "how dare they called my meow meow villain out of their shit". Ochako called Toga that her action has consequences and the fact that maybe her unclear question was not worth murdering (or hurting to give a benefit of the doubt) an innocent old lady? "Ochako dehumanized Toga/ she didn't see Toga as a person reee". Endeavor saw Dabi as his responsibility, his mistake, the exact way Dabi described himself to Endeavor? "Endeavor only saw Dabi as a thing, he dehumanized Dabi". Hawks outright called Twice a good person, saying that he had a better chance for atonement than his other murderous friends? I understand why Twice can't accept that offer but Hawks is not dehumanizing villains for that? Calling villains who planned to wreck everything as "unkind" is not dehumanizing? I can understand a little when Shigaraki had a monologue about rotten society and Endeavor said "thanks for the monologue but you are already dead" may be dehumanizing but context please? Shigaraki destroyed dozen people's lives with a single touch as if they were ants. And Hori made it clear that those people are not ants or mindless NPC, they're humans! A guy has an important document that was so important for his work, for his life! A bleeding guy begged for his wife's safety! A woman tried to lift concrete to save her beloved one! A kid was crying, outright yelling that her brother's life is so much important to her than a beloved merchandise that her brother offered to her before his death, an utterly heartbreaking conversation that no children should have! Shigaraki and LOV outright dehumanized them, lumped them as one big blob of "society that deserves to rot". For me it's understandable if those victims, and heroes who fought for their safety, prefer if Shigaraki's heart was as stopped as minutes before.

Speaking about dehumanizing, one baffled moment that seared into my brain forever was when a meta said that Hawks dehumanized Dabi because he... told Tokoyami that Dabi's monologue is a way to stall time and he searched a chance for Tokoyami to make an escape. The offense? They said that Hawks didn't listen to Dabi's "valid" points and had "dehumanizing observations" of Dabi. THAT MAN IS ON A FREAKING BRINK OF DEATH WITH HIS KID INTERN IN THE MIDDLE OF DEADLY AREA WTF WTF WTF. Since when being logical in a dangerous situation is dehumanizing?? Oh right, forget it, they called Hawks who yelled at Endeavor to focus on his fight with big boss AFO and not fall for AFO's clear manipulation tactic as "abuse apologist" so they clearly are not the biggest fan of logic. And the same guy had a gall to be offended when someone condemned Dabi for calling Twice's murder video a good footage, saying that he masked his grief (I mean, maybe I am too harsh but that's a truly dehumanizing thing? Just as dehumanizing as Youtuber today who saw tragedy and capture it instead of helping or even just saw it as entertainment?). That's the point I know that villain stan in this fandom is a lost cause

Ughhh yes yes yes! It really does feel like we're taking crazy pills when we try to reason with these outrageously irrational takes, isn't it? I've ranted about them A LOT in this blog but they never fail to make me wanna tear my hair out with frustration and bewilderment.

Hori's overly sympathetic writing for the villains made me dislike them and made me struggle to feel sympathy for them, but it was the gross hypocrisy and stupidity of the villain's stans that made me this 👌 close to fully hating the villains and losing all sympathy for them.