#i usually dont talk about chris' arc all that much (i leave that to the rest of the fandom who love her more than i do)

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I’m feeling emotions over Chris’ character development again

SZ: If I gouge out my wounds, would it be possible for me to forget?

G: I’ve found a place that I want to protect so I won’t run away anymore!

GX: Can even someone who gouged out her own wounds and pretended to not have been crying become good at supporting and laughing with others?

AXZ: I know the world is unfair. I mean, the other side has their reasons too, right? But still, if they’re drawing their weapons then I won’t go easy!

XV: I’ve come far enough to be able to lead the ones who once guided me.

[crossovereddie]

Actually, here is an alternative thing for you to occupy your time with, and a question I have been meaning to ask you for a while. I have finished 911 finally! So I'm ready for the new season. And I wonder, realistically, what do you think the roadmap would be for a buddie endgame?

I absolutely see how their story has been framed and filmed in a lot of parallels to how a romantic storyline would be set out. But there has been no outright mention of either of them being bi - although the conversation about Maddy setting Buck up with whassisface was very casual and could very easily have been an example of canonically bi Buck - and they are both at the end of season 4 in 'relationships' with women.

So, in your estimation, what's the timeline? What's the transition? How do they go about this and how long does it take? I wanna know your thoughts 👀

okay yes i have lots of thoughts on this and it's actually one of my fave questions i get asked. I've always watched a lot of tv shows so I'm just estimating on what I've seen before and what I would personally do. IMO this love story is a slow burn. We only have four seasons so far and only three of those seasons have Eddie in them. This unsurprisingly got long so ill put it under the cut.

So I'll go by seasons bc to me its important to look at everything that has happened so far by seasons and by love interests and not as a whole. Its the best way i can form a timeline that I think would make the most sense and why

S1: So we don't get any hints at Buck being anything other than straight and I think this is because he was supposed to be. They hadn't planned for Eddie yet and they definitely hadn't planned for the chemistry Oliver and Ryan were gonna have. S1 Buck was this reckless kid who didn't take anything serious. He was definitely super immature. Then he meets Abby and he starts to get serious about his job and his love life. I'm not gonna say "Abby changed him" because she didnt. He saw the person he was and the person he was becoming and decided on that change himself.

S2: Eddie!!!! So we get introduced to this army medic turned firefighter in the least heterosexual way. Then Buck is angry because Eddie is hot and really good at his job. they work together and Eddie compliments Buck and now they're smiley bffs. Seriously wtf was all that? Anyway this is all sus bc from what ive seen before in other shows when a main love interest leaves and a new main character replaces them, that means something. JLH replaced Connie Britton as far as big name actress but i really believe Eddie replaced Abby as far as importance in Buck's life. Do i think they brought him in with the intentions of turning him into a LI? No but they sure fueled the narrative from the get go. I think they saw fans reactions and started testing the waters.

Moving on to LIs in this season. We find out Eddie has a kid and the mother is not in the picture (eddie made sure buck knew that right away). Then later on we find out he's technically still married. shannon comes back and we get Eddie finally getting to confront this head on. He tries to get his family back together for the sake of his son. Its big for Eddie's character bc all he does and all he's ever done is for his son. Then Shannon asks for a divorce then she dies bringing this arc to an abrupt end and leaving eddie heartbroken.

meanwhile Buck is still waiting for Abby. Then he finally accepts that shes not coming back and decides to move on. He goes right back to being "Buck 1.0" with Taylor and feels bad about himself because that really isnt him anymore. He wants a real relationship. So then Ali calls and asks him on an actual date and he agrees. This is his first try at a relationship after a heartbreak. in tv these don't usually work out but are used to develop the main character's growth. We don't really see much of her but she breaks up with him so.

S3: This is Eddie finally dealing with his feelings/guilt season. This is also the season I think we really see how important Buck is to the Diaz boys. S2 had cute buckley-diaz family moments but those could still be interpreted as a best friend and his best friend's kid. This season though... after the tsunamic episode was when i really started to fully believe buddie was going canon. This season is solidifying their bond not only as Buck and Eddie but as Buck Eddie and Christpher. As I'm writing this I realized neither of them really has a love interest in this season do they? Ana is introduced but then is clearly presented as definitely NOT the right choice for eddie and especially for Chris. Then they counter that with Buck helping Eddie build a skateboard for Chris that he can use as opposed to Ana's ablest remarks about how he can't do it so just move on to something else. Then we get Buck's reaction in Eddie Begins. Buck has seen his team his friends his family get hurt on the job before but he has never reacted the way he did when it was Eddie in danger. Again solidifying just how much these two mean to each other. Don't even get me started on this season being when Eddie changes his will offscreen. Anyway we get Abby back and Buck finally gets the closure from that relationship that he needs to move forward into a serious relationship.

Now S4: jfc s4....IMO this is the only logical season to get the ball rolling on Buddie and they sure did that with 4x14 despite everything else. So i never thought they would be the first serious relationship for each other after the heart break theyve both experienced. It wouldn't be fair to their character developments. Buck tries dating Veronica and that clearly doesnt work but we know hes now open to dating again. We get Buck Begins where we see why Buck is the dare devil he is. The only way he got his parents attention as a kid was to put himself in danger. They bring back taylor and how to they ultimately get together after she friendzones him? She thinks hes in danger and suddenly wants him. As much as i hate it this is really gonna be a relationship where Buck finally stands up for himself and sees his own worth and realizes he deserves more. He deserves someone who sees him and loves him for who he is. He deserves to be chosen, something Abby Ali his parents dont do and what i think taylor wont end up doing. I feel like shes gonna choose her career over him. Maybe not in a "I'm breaking up with you" way but maybe she takes a new job and want to do LD (hes tried that twice and it didnt work for him. hes not gonna want that) or she could ask him to go with her but he wont. His family is in LA. His job is in LA. Eddie and Chris are in LA and he won't leave them. Then we have Eddie finally deciding to move on and try dating again so they bring back ana. To me it's not gonna work out so I'm not bothered at all lmao. It's interesting that they'd choose her though. Someone we already know Eddie doesn't trust with his son. There's also more buckley-diaz family scenes of them being coparents. The hildy episode, Chris running to Buck when hes mad at eddie, Buck being the one to tell Chris Eddie got hurt, then Buck staying with Chris and taking on the guardian role without him even knowing just how much that role really does belong to him. He didn't do it out of obligation. He didn't do it because he was asked to. He did it because he thought it would be best for Chris. Finally to 4x14. This is by far the biggest "Oh shit this is it. This is the beginning of buddie". We find out Eddie changed his will a year ago and has just been sitting on this info. I think Eddie knew back then what it meant but he wasn't in the right mindset to accept what it means so he kept it to himself. I think he finally started allowing himself to go there during treasure hunt. The man was jealous yall. Carla coming back and her comment about doing whats best for him and not chris is his oh shit moment. I think he wouldve broken up with Ana a few days after that if he had the time lol. He gets caught up in the mother/son sl then this poor mf gets shot by a sniper. The way that whole scene was filmed btw was not in a bff way. That was a lover watching his beloved almost die in front of him. Buck again puts himself down and Eddie decides this is the moment. He needs Buck to see how important he is. He wants buck to know how loved he is. So he sits there talking himself up to it and finally lets Buck know just how big of a part he is in Eddie's family. Buck's previous scene is him saying he wants someone who wants him back then here is Eddie saying he needs him...Chris needs him. wtf.

So with S5: I think Eddie knows and Buck has a feeling but he's not sure so what i would do is spend s5 with Eddie basically showing Buck his feelings but not exactly getting in the way of Buck's new relationship because Buck has to be the one to make that choice. Id also have chris feeling the different shift with buck having a gf like he did with Eddie. This newfound info wasnt just dropped on us for a "Aww so sweet" moment. This will business is gonna be a part of a bigger storyline. I'm hoping its with Eddie's family during maybe 5b.

So what I think would be the best timeline for canon buddie is 5a eddie already having either broken up with ana or is gonna break up with her, Buck choosing himself and ending things with Taylor by midseason finale, them bringing in Eddie's family in 5b and maybe then being when Eddie confesses his feelings for Buck. Then 6a we could get them walking on egg shells around each other not really knowing what to do bc this is all so new for both of them. This could bring just the right amount of comedy and angst especially them awkward and flustered around each other at work. A big blowup can happen between them for added angst (maybe an arguement before one of them or both of them is put in danger) then a midseason finale kiss. Then trying to find the balance between their personal relationship and their work relationship during 6b.

I don't know how long Fox shows last but procedurals can last a long time. I'm not sure thats gonna be the case for 911 especially with all the main cast staying that long so i think this would give us at least a whole season (S7) of canon buddie.

As far as then being presented as straight, there's been more seeds planted about buck being bi. A few i can remember off the top of my head: all of 2x1 lmao, maddie's comment about bucks boy crush on eddie, buck hinting at thinking eddie is cute when he thinks maddie is talking about him, the christmas elf, the comments on the instagram livestream, idk if youve watched it or not but TK's comment to Buck in the crossover episode, and like you mentioned Maddie's casual comment about setting him up with Josh. All we really know about Eddie's love life is he married Shannon when they were young and is trying with Ana so it could turn into a whole storyline for him.

I'm so sorry this is so long and took forever but i I hope i actually answered your question and didnt just get lost in rambles lmao.

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Smol Call for Venturiantale RPers willing to do AU

https://discord.gg/fAc4D92 *waves!!* PIA's world is an AU. more or less. So all the characters are sort of different, depending on what happened in their version of the timeline, such as: Johnny Ghost and Gregory do not share a body, only him and Casket. Johnny Toast never cured from being a werewolf, but can now control when he turns, besides full moons. also not a vampire. etc. etc. But you see, theres a small problem I cant write half of the Venturian groups characters. and i try to keep them IC, but tend to have different things for them as well, unless they are in a flashback or flashforward. and the timeline Cassie exsists in, takes place only a year after the Puppet arc. and Cassie exsists in the main timeline of the AU. But the AU automatically ages all the characters down as well..So in order to help with you understanding everything going on, lets figure out whats going on there with current takes on personality and crap. Though they can be changed in any way you'd like. Acachallas Billy Acachalla has left his family, and currently stays off the grid with Maddie Friend, while occasionally visited by Sally and Jennifer. He faked his permanent death in order to escape, and keeps trying to convince Sally to do it, and get Sue to do it. Hes alot smarter then in the videos, and tends to act more like an adult then a five year old, unless around Sally, then he just drops it and goes to his video act. (currently has 15 lives left to give and to use.) [17] Sally Acachallas demon side comes out more then just when she doesnt get waffles, and shes broken up with Slenderman. Sally stays peaceful, but isnt as jumpy as normal, her obsession for waffles has also faded quite a bit, due to an incident at the waffle dimension. (currently has 3 lives left) [15] Gertrude Acachalla doesnt care about her children as much, more paying attention to things outside. She stopped caring about the children when they accidentally killed Papa and Spencer, she had a incident where she got mad and made them both lose one life, before locking them in their room. Which resulted in Billy faking his death to escape. Shes more rude and aggresive towards people, and refuses to talk to anyone who tries to help her or bring her back to sanity for her remaining children, often killing them repeatedly until they are out of lives. (Currently has 2 lives left.) [24] Sue Acachalla is a trans female with the mask sewed onto her face due to previous parents. Shes calm and sticks up for her sister, and tends to be able to calm down demon Sally, though sometimes she might get killed by her. Sue spends alot of her time braiding barbie's hairs and sleeping, or talking to Sally. As shes not allowed to leave the house because she looks like a murderer or Burglar. She gets bored alot more often and will go into fits of rage when shes extremely bored, this has resulted in the closet being bombed, twice. (Currently has 2 lives left) [17] Extra Maddie Friend is a crazy and hyperactive girl. She chases people she doesnt like or has been hired to kill around, and currently works at a hospital, and for Jennifer Ghost + Billy Acachalla, as Billy signs her shirts and Jennifer gives her extra pay so she'll keep their secret, and do stuff for them if something needs to be done. Shes kind and outgoing, but carries around a crowbar and/or a bucket of popcorn occasionally, making her seem a little unapproachable (currently has 5 lives left left) [17] PIE Johnny Ghost is a little bit more depressed then usual, and shows off his highly emotional side more, especially when its his family or his best friend in danger, he argues with people alot more and tends to hide in his room afterwards. Hes still extremely arrogant and sassy mind you, but he tries not to let it show as much. //He also has freckles but whatever// (Currently has 1 life left) [26] Johnny Toast is the most loyal fido you'll ever see. Hes calm and collected, but will do anything for his boyfriend boss. Hes a werewolf that has a bit of control over his power, though is still helpless to the full moon. Hes kind and tends to act smart, or talk for Ghost when hes upset or whatever. Hes still shy and stuttery whenever Ghost isnt around though. Hes very protective of everyone in his team, one one of the most supportive people you'd meet. probably has to stop Ghost from murdering Spooker and Colon (currently has 1 life left) [28] Fred "Spooker" Soup is a pure and happy and perfectly chubby boy. Hes kind and bouncy, tending to ignore anything bad going on around him, unless hes screaming and running from a powerful ghost. Hes welcoming to most people, even people that are held captive, making him a good candidate to be a guard if the captives dont know whats going on. He tends to be very protective towards Colon and the girls, as he sees Colon as a amateur, and is assigned to protect the girls with his life. Though he fails at it alot. (Currently has 1 life left) [22] Chris "Colon" Ghostie is a precious politic hating bean. He tends to yell about random stuff, and doesnt talk to people very often. sometimes he wont even be at work because hes doing his side job as an uber driver. Hes completely pure, and is the only one in the team who has not yet commited Man slaughter. So hes the most innocent one he did nothing wrong. (currently has 3 lives left) [24] Jennifer Ghost {One of my characters } Jennifer is an arrogant, bossy, and protective girl, as like her brother. She tends to boss her friends around, and if in a panic, wont hesitate to go boss-mode on the boys.  Shes rude and sassy, and isnt afraid to slap someone if shes not getting what she wants. Shes really only kind to Jenna Toast and Billy Acachalla. Occasionally her brother if he needs someone to comfort him and Johnathon isnt around. oh yea she cant read and is extremely terrified of water. (Currently has 1 life left) [15] Jenna Toast {One of my characters } Jennas the gay cousin/friend everyone haves, but no one wants. Shes flirty, and smooth with her words when she wants to convince someone to do something. Shes never afraid to shoot someone, even someone she cares about. She tries to make friends with anyone she meets, but if they're close to one of her best friends? Consider them dead. She will kill anyone who gets in the way of her and her trio of girls. Jennifer knows this, so never lets Jenna meet anyone she cares about..though Cassie has issues. She will happily put a bullet in anything or anyone she finds paranormal, excluding the caskets and her brother. (Currently has 1 life left.) [17] Cassie Anderson {One of EvilsNightmare 's characters } im going off what i know about her pls help me frien Cassie is a character the 'Jennys' picked up, pretty much off of the side of the road. She knows quite a bit about ghosts, to the girl's surprises. Shes one of the 'female trio' of PIE, and sticks with Jenna and Jennifer most of, if not all of the time. Shes fun to be around, besides the fact she can be brutally honest. She currently has a ghost named 'Zayne' haunting her. (Currently has 1 life left) [19???] ~~~~ Ye ye, so theres that, beauty/monstrosity. now, I can do all the characters. but,,,, tend not to??? because it goes like a script in my head and gets boring, i like twists that RPs can bring,,, If anyone wants to RP this with me you can,,, ask,,, lol- and you're welcome to twist the characters any way you like, im just laying base facts down lol. List of Characters: Billy Acachalla Sally Acachalla Gertrude Acachalla Sue Acachalla Maddie Friend Johnny Ghost - Currently played by The-gaming-knight Johnny Toast Fred "Spooker" Soup Chris "Colon" Ghostie (ill catch u up on whats going on dont worry) Reminder: You might have to be okay with Toasted Ghost and/or Spoon, as it depends on whos playing the four characters on ships. List of Ships that can happen that im okay with (because of age range and relations and crap, but you're welcome to ask me about it if you and the person playing the other character have talked about it.): Billy x Jennifer, Billy x Jenna, Billy x Maddie, Sally x Jenna, Sally x Jennifer, Sally x Maddie (they,,, arent related dont worry,,,), Gertrude is forever alone unless someone brings a ship up to me, Sue Acachalla x Jenna, Sue x Jennifer, Maddie x Billy, Maddie x Jenna, Maddie x Sue, Toasted Ghost/Johnny Ghost x Johnny Toast (I cant,,, see another character they'd be shipped with???lol), Spoon/Spooker x Colon Ships that are in progress, sort of: Jenna x Cassie, Ghost x Toast (we've all seen the vids its at least platonic but everyone thinks thye're dating lets be honest) Everyone is really welcoming so you dont really have to be scared of meeting us tbh

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