#i'm not gonna tag this with scene stuff because i don't need to drag discourse over here

[missmisdemeanor]

i dont know much about scene at all!! infodump on us! what are the primary scene groups? what makes music "scene"? what's the fashion that correlates with it? do tell!!

i don't want to like scene-splain as someone who was too young to actually be on myspace or go to warped tour and all that but here goes,

scene music can generally be split into two categories- crunkcore and metalcore. crunkcore is a portmanteau of crunk and hardcore, which includes groups like brokeNCYDE, the millionaires, attack attack and, unfortunately blood on the dance floor. you'll see crunk beats combined with hardcore elements like scream vocals. metalcore is metal and hardcore, including bands like asking alexandria, avenged sevenfold, bring me the horizon, and falling in reverse. these aren't crisp and sepatate categories though, and you'll find elements of both in groups like 3OH!3. scene music isn't entirely limited to this categorization or time period, i'd consider the music 6arelyhuman is making today to be scene, and an argument could be made that a lot of "emo rap" follows in the footsteps of groups like brokeNCYDE.

compared to emo, scene fashion tends to be brighter, more colourful, and more extreme, as well as including motifs like diamonds and brass knuckles that aren't shared with emo. it also borrows a lot of style from the hip-hop culture at the time, you'll find slotted shades in pictures and mentions of grills in lyrics. (now is probably an important time to mention that scene wasn't a perfect community at all- it was pretty fatphobic and racist in many circles despite taking elements from black fashion and music, and ultimately reflected a lot of the popular attitudes of the time, late 2000s-early 2010s. for an unfortunate example, jeffree star first got famous in the 'scene.' exclusive scene groups were made on myspace and membership was policed largely by looks.)

the name "scene" itself comes from the music and party scene; and this is where i'm arguably "not real scene" either. seeing bands, partying hard, and meeting people from myspace is fundamentally what the scene WAS. there's crossover with raving here too, bands like S3RL were popular, a lot of scene kids made kandi (as do i), and of course there's the drug use.

aaand yeah, this is what i have off the top of the dome! scene today is a lot more inclusive than it used to be, and people who identify with the movement are very aware of its issues. (one of my faves is clawed_beauty, and it's parasocial as fuck to say she's really nice, but i do believe she's very positive) it does also bear mentioning that emo, scene, and myspace were places for many people to experiment with identity and sexuality, and this is where "kids are being bisexual because it's trendy" partially comes from. there's a lot and i'm not an organized person.

final note, i connected with scene personally in, try not to cringe, the darkest time of my life. my bipolar disorder was undiagnosed, i'd been in and out of psych wards for suicide attempts, and music that was simultaneously about having crazy fun and being in self-destructive pain and anger really clicked with me. the fashion seemed like a way to express myself outside of what other people wanted or expected of me. so...yeah

[antthonystark]

hello mavra! i haven't seen something like this on your blog, so tell me what do you think of sebastian? i mean we haven't seen him in the show, but what do you think he's gonna be like? or you don't look forward to see him? god, i have so many questions lol (and i'm living for your discourse tags cause i am a bitch for your opinions on stuff)

(book spoilers ahead) 

i think sebastian in the show could be a seriously well-written villain. i think the thing that hampered him the most in the books was the weird incest kink that kind of dragged the books down throughout the duration of the whole series, but most notably in books 4-6 with sebastian and clary and all that. 

like i could buy that that scene with sebastian and clary (you know the one) was just the author trying to show how sick and twisted sebastian truly is, which is fine and good, but basically every interaction with sebastian and clary just kind of stinks of something really icky that i don’t think was necessarily as intentional. so i’m hoping that they dial that way down in the show, and i think they will, such that you can still sense how twisted sebastian is without feeling like you need to take a shower after every time he talks to clary lol. 

otherwise, the whole “demon blood makes him pure evil but downworlders have demon blood and they’re not evil” thing is also kind of iffy - i don’t know how they’re going to fix that in the show, but at the very least i hope they don’t give him that redemption scene that was at the very end of book six before he died. i think the crux of this is that the experimentation and the genetic interference of said experimentation to a nephilim specifically is what caused sebastian to become so warped, rather than just demon blood itself. i think that’ll at least go some way into explaining it.

in short, like, i am excited to see what the show does with him, because i think he makes for a compelling villain (more so than valentine) especially if the above two points are addressed. so far, it seems like they’re going a different route from the books, since they’re introducing him much earlier (assuming the valentine plot is not going to end at the end of s2, but rather will carry into s3; if they’re wrapping up valentine at the end of s2 and starting sebastian-as-villain in s3 then it’s comparable to around the same time he was introduced in the books). also, he doesn’t have the dyed-black hair from what i can see, and they’re not meeting him in idris along with aline, i assume. so i don’t really know what they’re gonna do with him, but i’m confident it’ll be well-executed. 

and of course, the sooner we get sebastian, the sooner clace’s incest drama will end, and the happier i will be. also will tudor is rly cute, so that’s nice. i’m sure he’ll do the character extremely well