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#if i get recommended one more vague post about my post i’m gonna cry sjsgsjdbxb
palms-upturned · 2 years
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Putting this in the tag to clear things up ig
I made that post about Dora and her being middle class and I already regret it. I’ve had ppl in the replies and also just vagueing abt it and I am getting a bit tired. I wasn’t expecting the post to get any attention since I didn’t have any de mutuals at the time (hence why it was in that meme format of me shouting into the ear of somebody who didn’t care 💀) so I didn’t word it thoughtfully enough ig
I don’t think Dora is a shrew or a villain or whatever. I don’t think leaving Harry was an evil or even wrong decision. I said in the post I don’t think Harry is a victim of Dora at all, he’s a cop and a violent pos and she needed to get out. I don’t even think that being middle class makes her evil or whatever. I don’t dislike her and I don’t think she is the cause of Harry’s problems or that she owed him anything. I just thought that some of her dialogue in the dream sequence reflected some interesting stuff abt her being middle class and how it puts a particular kind of wedge between her and Harry. Not the one that ultimately split them, obviously, just an interesting one in the sense that she’s so entirely sheltered from the realities of poverty and addiction and psychosis, and also that she has the resources to leave all of those realities behind, unlike Harry or any of the people of Martinaise. I think that’s a morally neutral fact, it’s just an interesting facet of de’s ruminations on class to me, as someone who has dealt w disability, suicidality, and institutionalization.
I brought up the Dolores Dei comparison bc I also found it interesting that she was such a complex figure in history and that she was described as being “sheltered” which was attributed to her war crimes. I don’t think Dora leaving Harry was on par with war crimes 💀 I just found it interesting how that was another example of the game musing about how the class divide damages one’s ability to conceptualize how the other half live, so to speak.
Again, I don’t hold anything against Dora. I don’t think she’s the villain here or whatever. I just think it’s fun and interesting that she has a lot of complexity going on, especially since Harry is an unreliable narrator on top of only remembering bits and pieces of her. I was just sharing something about the dream sequence that reminded me of my own personal experiences with people like Dora who can’t wrap their heads around what it’s like to want to die and how people get to that point, and how that lines up with class a lot of the time.
I also didn’t end it with that bit about Kim bc I think Kim is better than Dora or smth, but bc Kim is smth of a wish fulfillment fantasy for the suicidal, and that’s part of why Harry deifies him like that.
Anyway. I regret the post. I’m starting to get super worn down by ppl misreading it bc it was coming from such a personal place and I wasn’t expecting much engagement w it anyway. Sorry abt it I guess.
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