#if joel HAD to die i think that woulda been really interesting

[demadogs]

im really upset ellie didnt have a heartfelt coming out with joel

[korrafitness]

I’m super interested to hear more of your thoughts on TLOU 2 as a fellow queer woman. I have mixed feelings about the game. I hated it after the ending at first, but it’s grown on me somewhat. Loved the gameplay, and much of the story, but I feel like the pacing, length, and narrative structure really undermined the experience. One of the biggest problems imo was how over the top #suffering was. (1)

Like, Ellie kills a dog and then 40 minutes later you meet that same dog you killed, it’s a little ridiculous in its unsubtlety. Also, characters are just... incredibly bad at communicating. No one talks to each other or does almost anything but escalate. If it had been 2/3 the length, and structured so you play as Ellie and Abby concurrently (so you see Abby’s side before she kills Joel and during Seattle before Ellie kills Abby’s friends) (2) and there had been some more exposition on how characters feel during their revenge quests, I think it would’ve been a lot more powerful. I never really got invested in Abby’s friends since I knew they were gonna die soon anyway (also Manny’s character was full of annoying stereotypes). In general, I’m just so sad for Ellie. Her story is so powerful and comes together in the end, but I want things to turn out good for her. I don’t even know if she deserves it. (3/3)

the pacing for me was also an issue i really woulda liked if we could have traded 3 more hours with ellie instead of abby, i just started to really miss her and i pushed through the abby section to get to ellie only to play abby a bit more lol my whole thot process with the dogs was “awhhh youre tryna make me feel bad about these cute boys well.. PAP PAP” lol but i know that it bothered others. i think how they structured it was the way they had to go because no one would have been interested in playing as abby before she killed joel and before ellie killed all her friends, it wouldnt have had the same impact imo also finding out that owen and mel were hours away from leaving before ellie murdered them was ooof (also i did enjoy mel a lot because of ashly burch) but other than that yeah i didnt care for her friends but also i dont think we were meant to get too attached to them anyway, to me it was more displaying what abby was going to lose i guess? and for me i look at it.. all these characters “deserve” to be happy but thats just not the case usually and ellie had to face her own demons to move on from joel’s death to find that happiness