#it is so jover for me.. i will need to change identities..

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[Brief] Thoughts on Film Theory's Analysis

I was gonna post this on my priv twt.. but moots convinced me to post it here so here we are.. beware of spoilers, gore, bla bla bla ..

FIRST OFF I'm gonna start by saying, I AM ESL. I may or may not have misinterpreted some of his words, but this is mainly how I thought of his analysis. This is not meant to be ill-guided or rude ! so sorry if it comes off as this way. I will be very repetitive.

Another thing, most if not all of the information matpat gave out i alr discussed with a few mutuals on discord about a few months back so this is not new territory to me 😭😭 I thought most folks would already knew the concept of how the brain deteriorates overtime But honestly, that indisposition shouldn’t even apply to omni man??? matpat tried to compare an immortal Viltrumite's psychology to that of an aging human's, which can be misguided.

Let's start by how he compares Nolan's brain to the average aging human's brain so the audience could understand his psyche more and how empathy declines overtime. First and foremost, Nolan is not a human, second; Nolan wasn't raised with empathy or around an empathetic environment - it was an alien concept to his race. Something frowned upon. He was raised from birth to conquer and destroy without remorse. His brain never developed those neural pathways for empathy in the first place. It's not that they deteriorated over time, they were never even formed.

By the time he came to Earth, all this familial stuff was new to him. Sure, he knew he was gonna outlive them, but He didn't think he'd get attached. HE didn't process that he'd grieve over them when the time came.

Interacting with humanity for the first time ignited unfamiliar emotions in Nolan that he didn’t know how to process.

His time living amongst humans caused conflicting feelings he’d never experienced in his centuries of systematic slaughter. Loving Debbie and Mark went against everything he was taught, but he couldn't help it. For once, the lives he was manipulating to further Viltrum’s goals meant something to him. He developed a [what he presumed, NOT what he felt about them in reality, his love for them is far more profound than he assumed it to be which we later on see in the last ep of s1 and the second season] petty facsimile of love for his ersatz family.

So no, his capacity for empathy didn't decline with age as MatPat claims. His empathy was stunted from the start. An underdeveloped skill, not a deteriorated one. We had characters like Debbie to help him understand those notions, help him grow it. With Mark in the mix? it only amplified that development.

Viltrumites are societally and culturally predisposed to violence and domination. Nolan was never accustomed to forming emotional connections or grieving loss. Those were entirely new experiences for him after arriving on Earth. He was not jaded. he was grown into jamais vu in viltrum.

This is why the whole conflict in s1 happened, he was treading between double lives he wasn't sure of. He was conflicted because his past values were refuting with his new experiences. He found love on Earth, he found himself unable to accept how he'd lose Debbie. Of How jaded Mark might become. Everything he said to Mark till that point was his own self-projections, his own fears, doubts.

While the video did provide some interesting facts about neuroscience and aging, the application of those facts to Nolan's character was inaccurate. IT is educational for those who don't know, but it isn't recent news that the brain begins to deteriorate overtime so this video wasn't that informative which kinda disappointed me. Their analysis lacked alot of information about the Viltrumite race and Nolan's character. Comparing him to humans with normal life experiences just doesn't work. His immortal nature combined with a lack of empathy from birth created a psychology unlike anything seen on Earth.

SORRY FOR RANTING ALOT AND OR IF IT SEEMS LIKE I'M GIVING MATPAT SHIT ... i really liked their analysis on immortal so i'll give them that. Immortal, unlike Nolan, was born human. He has lived among humanity for over 3000 years, inhabiting different identities of public and devoted historians. Because of this, his psyche developed quite differently. Immortal knows how to form connections, experience loss, and adapt to social changes. His perpetual existence didn't harden his heart like Viltrum's brutal culture did to Nolan. Instead, Immortal's immortality allowed his empathy and compassion to blossom.

Humans are social creatures. Our brains have evolved to seek out interpersonal relationships, crave affection, and find meaning in community. For an immortal like Immortal, social interaction is vital to staving off boredom, depression and detachment from humanity.

By inhabiting mortal lives, he stays tethered to the human experience. He continues learning, growing, and developing empathy.

This is why he's devastated when the guardians die.

This is also why he goes fucking mental and tries to kill Omni-man.

If Immortal had lived in isolation all this time, unable to connect with people, his psyche would likely resemble Nolan's more closely. Without social interaction, Immortal's brain would atrophy in ways that preclude complex emotions and moral reasoning. His sense of purpose would fade, achievements would lose meaning, and life itself might feel pointless. By engaging with humanity, Immortal gives his endless existence purpose and direction. He finds value in each temporary life, so loss still impacts him deeply. Socializing keeps his emotions and cognition flexible, which prevents the apathy and hardness of heart seen in Nolan. Nolan never had these opportunities in his early years, this is why it's more difficult for him to stray away from his indoctrination. It's that he's unused to it, underdeveloped.

60 years to Nolan would've been a year and a half, so what's 20 measly years on Earth for him? Yes, he found profound connections in that little speck of time, but Immortal's emotional capacity is far more extensive.

In summary, Comparing Nolan to a human, whether mortal or immortal, is kinda inaccurate. His Viltrumite psyche rules out him from possessing JADED human qualities. You could say he's desensitized to violence sure, but no.. unfortunately.. he does not have [boomer] brain. He has [indoctrinated alien-fascist brain]

Leave your own thoughts down below or through reblogs, I'm really interested on what others may think of this! (URGHHHNN... my hcs r slipping away from my fingers cuz now people r gonna accept what matpat says as truth.. someone gun me down from the hills..)

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Answers by Netflix Original

(This is one of her birthday presents from me :D )

1. What do you think about All Hail King Julien ?

It's aMAZing! The characters, script and voice actors are just perfect!

2. What episode/s is/are your favourite and why?

Let's see, I really like Karl-Mageddon. Might be my fav so jovery That would probably be why I like it sm^. I REALLY like all of the episodes though, but if I had to pick one it would probably be that one.

3. What is/are your favourite season/s and why?

Hm...as much as it kills me to say this...I have to go with 5.

4. Who is/are your favourite character/s and why?

King Julien and Clover are my favs I also really like Ted too 😁 why? Well, I love Clover because she's so freaking awesome, I love Julien because he is such angreat king, he learns to care about others and take care of his people and will even sacrifice his life if he knows it will save his kingdom. As for Ted...he's just super funny 😂

5. Who is/are your favourite main character/s and why ?

KJ and CloClo

6. Who is/are your least favourite character/s and why?

Oh...mm... Sage,Maggie and Hans. Hans is just weird and honestly kinda freaky. Maggie is...well, ya know. And don't even get me started on Sage

7. Who is/are your favourite enemy/ies and why?

My favourite villians are magic Steve and Uncle King Julien. I like soysauce because the whole plot of someone stealing your identity and no one even knowing gives me the creeps and ukj is just SO evil, like how he trys to kill his OWN nephew *minachel laughter*

8. What is/are your favourite ship/s and why?

JOVER!! Clover and KJ's chemistry is soooo perfect!💟 I love how he cares about her and I love how Clover is always worried about him :D , also Xixi and Momo.

9. What is/are least favourite ship/s and why ?

S.A.G.E and CLOVER!! WHAT the heck DW?? You've got freakn issues😬 Why? Because Sage is so weird, and he also ugly , and weird and did I mention he's weird?

10. What is/are your favourite OST/s ?

AHH! Uh...Who's da King? Until the sun comes up, and won't stop, seriously though I love them all !!!

11. What is/are your favourite kingdom/s ?

Lemurs kingdom, duh...XD, if I had to pick another one, doesn the sharks count?

12. Which character/s do you want to meet the most and why?

Clover, probably because she's such an inspiration to me and it would be extremely awesome to meet her in person 😍

13. What do you want to change in AHKJ and why?

ENDING!!! DUH! Also, Exiled. I think DreamWorks could've done a MUCH better job with it.

14. Are you making/doing fanarts, fanmixes or fanfics ?

Yepper do! I try to do fanarts, and I have ONE that looks pretty good, if I do say so myself (it's the clover in a Hawaiian outfit XD) Also am currently working on Feelings Develop, and I finished my other fic The last goodbye, so yeah.

15. What do you think about the ending ?

It sucks, it sucks the most anything has every sucked in the history of sucking- Po, Kung Fu Panda

16. Which episode/s is/are the best for you and why?

The best for me? Um, the never ending Clover, and the eye of the clover... I guess because it shows just how much Clover means to Julien, and what he's willing to go through in order to keep her alive.

17. Which episode/s is/are to worst for you and why?

The worst, uh idk...maybe THE ENDING!! The words worst and hate are no where close in describing my feelings towrds the end.

18. What is/are your favourite scene/s and why?

The scene in I Maurice, when Julien is in a coma, and Clover is super worried about him, and she's touching his face and stuff💞 also in the pancharian canidate when she throws him over her shoulder to get him to saftey, and in Karl ma(something) when she gets worried in the room of mirrors because she can't find him Pretty much any/every Jover scene

19. What is/are your least favourite scene/s and why?

*coughs loudly* Clager! Sorry I need some cough medicine. Any Clager moments I would gladly wash down the sink

20. Have you ever cried while watching?

Mmm....I hate to admit it, but yeah.

21. Which scene/s is/are the funniest for you ?

XD, um, the scene when clover asks Mort what is wrong with him and he says probably lots of stuff and his eyes roll super far apart. But there are A LOT of halarous moments in AHKJ and I love them all.

22. What do you think about King Julien?

I think he's the most awesome character ever created in the history of television! He deserves more RESPECT!!

KJ: Respect-me! King-me!

Thanks a lot Netflix Original!!!