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ranofthewired · 2 years
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danse--macabre · 6 months
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companion!tav questions!
General - 1, 4
story - 8, 10
romance - 1, 2, 8 (if applicable)
GENERAL
1 - I've answered this!
4 - What sort of general actions raise or lower their approval?
Tirazel is the daughter of a robber baron (literally) who hates her vicious family but has been taught to value power, command respect, & aquire money. She thus likes actions which lead towards creating productive alliances, demonstrate subtlety, & show craftiness. She likes when you manipulate or deceive your way through a situation, or kill someone in a quick and clever way as a means to dissolve tension, or quickly take control. She doesn't like random, thoughtless violence, or killing when it leads to a messier, more troublesome solution than sneaking, talking, or using your intelligence. Anything that shows wit is something she appreciates; anything where you put your foot in it has her rolling her eyes. She'll appreciate attempts to explore the unknown and test out new means of gaining power; she'll dislike prejudice towards necromancy and the undead.
Tirazel ALSO has a soft spot for small acts of gentle kindness, and will approve when you pet dogs, save children, and be kind when it costs you nothing. (She, however, does not approve when you commit to saving the grove early, agreeing with the consensus that it is not the most pressing priority). She won't admit to this until Act 2 though, at the earliest.
STORY
8 - Do they have comments on who the Player Character chooses to spend the night with? 
Oh, absolutely. Tirazel one hundred percent enjoys gossiping and being judgmental (she, Shadowheart, and Astarion are the petty bitch committee) but she does increasingly show concern towards the PC (if their approval isn't utter dogshit) as the game goes on. I imagine Tirazel being that one companion who will occasionally take them aside and actually ask them, directly, how they're doing - not in a motherly way, not to judge (Tirazel lets them do as they wish), but out of genuine platonic care. She's interested in the PC - in their likes, dislikes, wants, desires, dreams, hopes, and favourites, and is the character that will ask you about these things, out of curiosity, and will remember them. Her Act 1 comment will mildly scathing about your taste and probably poke fun about what your LI is like in bed ('does Astarion stop preening when he takes all his clothes off, I wonder? Nevermind - of course he doesn't'), but after confirming your act 2 romance, she'll take you aside gently and ask if you're happy - giving the opportunity for you to gush about your LI as if you're teenage girls at a sleepover if you'd like. If you're good to Tirazel she's a confidante and a potential best friend.
10. How do they react if the PC licks the dead spider in the Gauntlet of Shar?
Takes the opportunity to rib you + sarcastically take the piss out of Shar while she's at it.
'I'm all for rocking the boat darling – please, do not let me stop you on your ardent quest fulfil all the filthy desires in your rotten little heart – but really, in front of us, in such an esteemed and holy place? You do scandalise us.'
She doesn't disapprove though, crucially. She actually thinks it's pretty funny. If you do it again she'll actually laugh. Absolutely here for the PC to be a total sicko.
ROMANCE
1. Is your Tav a romanceable character?  Are there any specific requirements to romancing them?
Tirazel is absolutely romanceable. She's openly bisexual and will date any PC who expresses interest + is high enough approval.
2. Does your Tav need to be flirted with to start the romance, or will they approach the PC themselves if approval is high enough?
You need to flirt with her first. She's a) used to being flirted with, used to being desired, and b) busy with her own shit (in the middle of the worst family drama ever), not prioritising love/sex unless you express interest.
that said, I want Tirazel's romance to be about her trying to seduce you -- rather than the other way around. She spent a long amount of time in her youth being desired but being forbidden to express those desires, being forbidden to act on those, being shamed for much of her diesre - and so once you've expressed interest, complimented her, have shown your hand, she'll respond by trying to dazzle you. She wants to be an active participant, not simply a dainty doll on which you bestow your affections.
8. If they’re poly, do they have a reaction to the PC engaging in a relationship with Halsin?
Tirazel is fairly frank about being open to polyamory – there's probably a romance convo where you and her, if you've indicated your chara is also open to poly, can flirtily speculate about who else in the camp would be fun to take to bed together.
In the case of Halsin, she'll laugh, tease you, and then tell you to enjoy your fun -- and note, while he's easy on the eyes, he's not really her type, so she won't be joining you (I can see Tirazel with practically everyone except Halsin, if I'm honest). If you'll indulge her, she'll ask you to tell her about the experience later (which can be gossipy or flirty depending on how you want to take that conversation).
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Spardac3st shippers explaining on why they ship them:
Dante, Vergil and Nero: 💀💀💀
I'm going to open up a little bit on this topic and just why it fucking baffles me so much.
Cw: talk about SA variety themes coming from someone who has personal trauma with incest sexual assault and you know the "excuses" pros proshippers use as their "explanation" on why they think shit like this is okay. This is a very serious matter so read under the cut only if you feel comfortable I dont want to trigger anyone but proshippers are fucking gross
"They're fictional characters, separate fiction from reality." Fiction can absolutely have an effect on one's reality and romanticizing and sexualizing abuse, even if it is fictional is never okay and it's fucking sick.
"It's my coping mechanism!" Not all coping mechanisms are healthy and this type of shit can lead to a very ugly downward spiral.
"Just scroll." We do but you're shit is literally fucking everywhere and it's fucking gross, we can block tags, block certain keywords, and STILL your gross ass shit still pops up so it's hard to just "scroll"
I was sexually assaulted by a family member for several years when I was younger, someone I was taught to love and trust and he took advantage of me every single chance he could. But proshippers, Spardacest shippers in particular eat that shit up with their "art" and their "fics" because it's ""hot"" and it's ""tabbo"" they use for their fucking jerk material and a good fucking amount of them (the other half that's not the "it's my coping mechanism" crowd) probably don't give a fucking shit about me and other people trauma who have been through it personally - afterall we're all just "antis" to them, right? And they'll go out of their way and pull any excuse from the book for their justifications and their reasoning when called out.
Incest, no matter how you look at it in any form is assault its just something that should be fucking obvious that isn't okay and it just fucking worse with, again Spardacest shippers in particular, who have been known to fucking have """""""ship art""""""" of the child versions of Dante/Vergil together with the adult version of the other twin in, yes, a romantic and even sexual aspect. Fucking pedophilia. I've had to report more fucking incest shipper twitter accounts than the fingers on hands and toes on my feet combined because of twitters algorithm being so fucking dogshit because I personally follow a lot of dmc accounts for art/photography/and gameplay but Twitter sees that is like "Oh this person likes dmc better recommend them all of the dmc stuff including the incest shit and its fucking nauseating but at least for me it's better because I have a whole entire blocklist accumulated up so its not as bad but 😑 ugh I fucking hate twitter.
Anyway my point is proshipping gets into extremes I mean, and the fact that these people can go "it's just fiction 🤪" when it comes to incest and pedophilia concerns me, even if it's just "fiction" it's still fucking incest and pedophilia, what is the fucking reason to ship something like those? Just for your gross fetish? Because you think it's "hot"?
I just don't get it, looking back at my trauma to personally evaluate all of this I just can't understand it the romantism/fetishism proshippers have towards something that I was a victim of. And it certainly doesn't help to me personally a character as a kid I personally clung onto (vergil) and was kind of like an escape and a comfort character for me during those times I was attacked repeatedly over and over being used just for someone's incest rape fantasy is just very nauseating and always has been to me.
So yeah if anyone was curious of my stance on the issue, even though I hate the term "anti" because it makes the whole issue of people shipping abuse like incest and pedophilia just "fandom drama" instead of the serious of the issue I think it is, I'm definitely anti Spardacest without a doubt and that will never change.
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