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#it's getting harder to find jttw stuff without lmk in it
istopaskingmemate · 29 days
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the Havoc in Heaven
the havoc in heaven is a critical part of both jttw and lmk one that we are only now hearing about in the show. certain things have changed between the two medias so I'm gonna give a very basic overview of how it happen in jttw and then fit it with the changes made to lmk to pieces together why.
I personally normally think of the havoc in heaven in three parts (yes the bit wukong talks about at the part in not all it)
part 1 horses
heaven invites Wukong to be the head of the celestial horse stables telling him it is a highly regarded perision (it’s not). Wukong finds out and releases the horse to cause chaos. He then goes back to FFM to proclaim himself as "Great Sage Equal to Heaven".
part 2 peaches
heaven gives into Wukong demands letting him officially become the Great Sage Equal to Heaven and invite him back to guard the peach garden. Wukong ends causing chaos because somehow no one considered the ramifications of leaving a monkey in a grove full of his favourite fruits meaning there was none for the peach banquet. Wukong (who didn't know about the banquet prior) decides he wants to go so he impersonates someone who was invited and gets drunk. in his drunken state he drinks all the wine and eats all the pills of immortality which immediately sobers him and in panic Wukong goes back to FFM.
part 3 it goes to shit
the jade emperor attacks FFM and Wukong kicks butt. until Erlang come and tag teams Wukong with Lou Zu (prob not right spelling) and takes him to be executed which fails. Since normal execution attempts continue to failed they put him in the furnace for 49 days. after which Wukong is relished (cuz they though he dead) and pissed so he starts killing everyone and decides he wants to be the Jade emperor. Then the buddha comes and locks him under the mountain.
Now lmk where does the brotherhood scenes we have fit into.
Well first the dinner party scene occurs between parts 1 and 2 seeing as wukong mentions the horses but not the peach garden (I checked). This does create a bit of a problem for the timeline since it’s at this dinner at they all decide their gonna go after heaven. thus why would wukong the new “king” of the rebellion agree to work with heaven again since we know he does work in the peach garden from multiple scenes? My guess is that he discussed it with azure and agreed with the intension (this time) to rob them of their immortality peaches/ wine/pills so he could make himself and his loved ones immortal in preparation for the upcoming war. Which could be what him “running off to search for more power, more immortality” is referring to.
Next brotherhood scene is them preparing to leave for war which happens after part 2 but before part 3 since wukong mentions losing track of how immortal he is before they leave for the battle aka lmk part 3
Now why is this important well notice the difference between the two events. in jttw Wukong is very passive and only causes a fuss when heaven treats him as lesser. Even when fights break out, he is also entirely on the defensive well… until he’s not which is after over month of torture so can you really blame him?  In lmk he is actively trying to take over heaven since the first meeting. Why because somewhere between part 1 and 2 there was a dinner where wukong was crowned king.
Now I’m not saying that wukong was a poor little victim or not responsible for what happen and Azure is a big meanie groomer who forced him into? NO! all of  it would have happened regardless of azure being there. I’m saying that Azure did heavily influence Wukong’s decisions purposeful or not and in a positive way. Weather he meant to or not Azure maniplulated wukong into becoming the jade emperor
Wukong in the jttw does not want to take over heaven he wants to be accepted by heaven. Everything from the way he acts to the title he chooses (Great sage equal to heaven) indicates this. It isn’t until he’s torture and almost killed multiple times that he recognises it’s unattainable and tries to destroy heaven instead. He never wanted to be the jade emperor before being cooked nor mentions it again after so it seems to me that becoming the jade emperor was a spur of the (very angry and upset) moment decision rather than an achell want. In lmk the brotherhood (unintentionally) tells wukong that his wish is unattainable before this. So instead of trying to get acceptance from heaven he turns to getting from his brothers, the mortal realm, and especially Azure. So Wukong agrees to Azure plans and in those plans he becomes the jade emperor.  
TL;DR in lmk havoc in heaven wukong is far more active then in jttw and it's because of Azure. Take and you can that as you will 😉
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