#just a guapoduoshipper: analysis

[guapoduoshipper]

I just...just follow me, ok?: The very uncaring way Doied replied to qCellbit's attempts to get closer, to tell him that he missed him or that he thought he'd be better without him, for a qCellbit before purgatory would be strange, it would make him realize right away that something is wrong with his husband, it would lead him to investigate and find out what really happened.

But right now qCellbit can only think that he deserves this hostility from qRoier, that he was right in thinking that the best thing was to stay away. He might even think now that he has lost qRoier and his husband doesn't love him anymore. I'M DEVASTATED.

I not only want him to discover that his husband was no better off without him, but that he was emotionally destroyed, that he looked for him until he literally ended up in hell for it, that the last thing qRoier thought before being kidnapped was “no hay nada más difícil que vivir sin ti"

[guapoduoshipper]

I want to emphasize the fact that q!Roier spoke for the first time in a long time about the betrayal he suffered and the scars it left on him. It is an extremely sensitive subject for him, to such a level that he has not even spoken concretely with his husband, because of how painful but relevant it was in his life and in his journey through the island. But today he told q!Bagi, he opened up for her not because q!Roier has a level of trust of that magnitude in her, he did it to defend q!Cellbit's point of view, to validate his feeling against the federation, his anger at what they have done to him.

q!Roier literally exposed his wounds so that his husband's would not be judged.

The ways in which q!Roier loves his husband leave me breathless.

[guapoduoshipper]

It's really wonderful how both q!Cellbit and q!Roier were SO sincere in their wedding vows that they fulfill them to the letter without even having to make an effort:

You'll never be alone again: what yesterday would just be q!Roier back in his own world turned into quality time with his husband and he was even surrounded by almost all the eggs having a good time (this hasn't happened since Bobby's passing).

You are the person I trust the most: q!Roier made it clear more than once that the whole presidential election thing doesn't appeal to him one bit but, even so, and without even knowing q!Cellbit's true purpose yet, he showed him full and unconditional support.

[guapoduoshipper]

It touched my heart so much when Spiderbit reunited after the carnage that was the battlefield ended: q!Roier stood silently, waiting for q!Cellbit's reaction, perhaps afraid that he would turn his back on him or declare that he felt openly betrayed but q!Cellbit threw him a cup of tea as a sign of peace, giving him permission to approach, then q!Roier also gave him a cup of tea and overflowed in asking him a thousand times for forgiveness while q!Cellbit assured him that he understood, that he held no grudge.

Their marriage is already above good and evil, it just amazes me so much.

[guapoduoshipper]

"Te amo, Te amo con todo mi corazón"

For us Mexicans, there is a clear difference between saying "te quiero" and "Te amo", even when the English translation is "I love you" for both cases.

For us, there is an abyss of difference.

"Te quiero"" is just that, something more akin to cherish than to love, a feeling of affection, something you may feel for friends, family or a partner when you are just starting to share feelings.

"Te amo" is a feeling that we understand as something very strong, very solid, something that is not said to just anyone. Something that we are even very reluctant to say because we know its value is immense.

In Mexico we even have a very famous song that describes this clear difference:

El querer pronto puede acabar El amor no conoce el final Y es que todos sabemos querer Pero pocos sabemos amar

Cherish can soon end Love knows no end And we all know how to cherish But few of us know how to love

We know that q!Roier's language of love is usually not in words but in actions: defending q!Cellbit from those who called him a traitor, standing by his side no matter what, wearing the amaranths on his clothes and then in his hair.

That is why it is so significant that q!Roier said it to q!Cellbit in his vows and even did it twice. Because it is as true as a fist:

q!Roier loves q!Cellbit with all his heart.

[guapoduoshipper]

I know that qCellbit's mention of him not feeling anything negative upon seeing Cucurucho again is a sneak peek from cc!Cellbit to give us to understand that, when he finds out what this bear has done to his husband, he's going to feel an anger with the power of seven hells.

[guapoduoshipper]

I'm not mad at q!Bagi for telling q!Cellbit that q!Roier was even more empty knowing that he is responsible for the murders and that will only make him walk away. I understand that she is desperate to stop her brother and held out hope of getting him to come to his senses if she told him that his actions were frightening his husband. I don't think it's fair to judge her for that because we as spectators knew that wasn't going to convince q!Cellbit, but q!Bagi did not.

q!Bagi doesn't know about the conversation the husbands had outside Bobby's town, where q!Roier swore to him that he would stand by his side even if q!Cellbit wanted to reduce the island to ashes.

q!Bagi did not hear q!Roier's marriage vows  “Siempre estaré para ti para cualquier cosa que necesites”.

q!Bagi doesn't know that q!Roier was THE ONLY ONE on the entire island who defended q!Cellbit when he pretended to be a traitor to infiltrate the federation. Even when he didn't know exactly what he was planning, he trusted him blindly.

q!Bagi did not hear q!Cellbit defend his intentions to marry q!Roier when q!Quackity questioned why he loved him "Porque ele ele estava lá para mim quando eu precisava dele."

q!Bagi doesn't know any of that, but q!Cellbit does.

That's why he didn't bend.

He knows that, of his own free will, q!Roier will not leave his side and that's why the only thing that upset him was when q!Bagi questioned what would happen if OTHERS took q!Roier away from him. At that point he raised his voice because that really terrified him.

q!Cellbit knows his husband is with him, even though he hasn't seen him and they haven't been able to talk.

q!Cellbit knows it, but q!Bagi does not. So she saw hope in telling him that, but it was a dead end.

[guapoduoshipper]

q!Cellbit has already noticed that something is off. But that doesn't mean he's falling out of love with q!Roier, let's try to see things from his perspective because then we'll notice that this is not what is happening:

q!Cellbit returned from purgatory, after which he himself said he had been fighting and killing to survive, every day the same thing, for weeks, months? he doesn't know. He lost track of time, time is a spiral, it seemed like an eternity but in the blink of an eye, he was back. Everything is still confusing and he doesn't remember things well, so after returning from almost hell he finally meets his husband again, smiling, happy? q!Roier knows how to hide his pain very well behind a smile, so after asking how he is and explaining that the choice to stay in purgatory was made because he thought that q!Roier would be better off away from him... he has a confirmation of this ?

This specific scene has a lot to analyze, first when q!Cellbit says he felt saudade [the strong feeling of missing, longing for someone or something] of q!Roier and apologize, he makes a joke and says "You left me alone culero", probably Doied thought that would be the most appropriate and safest reaction to fake being q!Roier, right? Maybe that would be correct if it weren't about such a serious situation that lasted so long, because we know that q!Roier told Richas that he felt like he was just existing, he was preparing a plan and doing everything to find his husband so that would definitely not be the appropriate reaction that q!Roier would have to this situation. Then q!Cellbit says "I thought you'd be better off without me and you..." at this moment his voice breaks, despite believing in what he's saying he doesn't want it to be real. "You're okay, aren't you?" it's as if you can perfectly feel the mix of sadness and fear that q!Cellbit's voice transmitted when saying this. "Yes, I'm fine! I'm feeling good, I'm feeling new!" - "See? Maybe that was the best thing to do" the confirmation that q!Cellbit was terrified of having, his sad tone of voice when he said that maybe being away from him was what brought the joy back to q!Roier it's heartbreaking. But q!Roier [Doied] doesn't seem to want to talk about these things for long, changing the subject, speaking only superficially or just going somewhere else.

Doied once again seems to have understood well how q!Roier works most of the time and with most people, but that's not all he is, that's not the essence of q!Roier. Doied cannot fake the deeper layers that make up q!Roier's existence, he becomes just a puppet with ready-made lines and repeated actions. And maybe that's why in a way he's also avoiding deep talks with q!Cellbit because if there's anyone capable of noticing that something isn't right with his husband, it's q!Cellbit... and that's exactly what's happening. Doied needs to divert topics and tries to move away because if he spends more time around him, the facade will become too obvious and this was shown to be true after two big things that Doied failed to replicate, the aspects of q!Roier's personality, and q!Cellbit noticed.

1- q!Roier would never attack q!Cellbit to hurt him. They already had a pvp fight, in which q!Roier lied about the result to make q!Cellbit feel better, they give each other shoulder pushes, light slaps on each other's arms and are very close physically, always talking close and with physical contact, they are known for always having their foreheads together when talking and this hasn't happened even once yet. During purgatory q!Roier really refused to kill q!Cellbit, constantly nodding his head to say no and stopping attacking but when he killed q!Cellbit, it was something that was soon explained as it was part of the event and it wasn't "real deaths" since things remained with them after they died, but even so, after this event q!Roier stopped smiling and demonstrated how much that affected him. There's even a moment that could almost be a parallel, in one of the days of purgatory, q!Roier had a very strong sword and asked q!Cellbit if he wanted it to be tested on him, this time q!Roier [Doied] simply started attacking q!Cellbit without even saying anything, and after q!Cellbit got very confused and said "Well... if that makes you happy", Doied chooses the safer answer "It's just a joke!"

2- q!Roier is extremely protective of his family. Upon seeing Pepito and Richas fighting a boss and q!Cellbit asking for help, Doied was just making jokes and took a while to actually try to help, something that q!Roier would never do, he would be the first to ask them to stay away and would be fighting to protect them.

So with everything that's happening now, what is q!Cellbit feeling and thinking? It's necessary to keep in mind that the key issue in all of this is something that is impossible for q!Cellbit to discover on its own. He doesn't even know about Doied's existence, q!Roier doesn't remember anything about his past and nothing was ever said about body swap, despite knowing that the federation carries out absurd tests and experiments, nothing like that had ever happened. However, there is something similar that may be considered in the future, the existence of something like q!Quackity and ElQuackity, perhaps at some point q!Cellbit will begin to suspect that perhaps this is not his husband because no matter how much he hates himself and has a very low self esteem, by now he must be confused as to why his husband is acting like this, but the love he feels for q!Roier is something that saved him, so it is strong enough to survive everything. I keep asking myself, what will happen when he discovers that the person in front of him has the same smile, the same eyes, the same body but the soul is not the same, that's not his soulmate.

[guapoduoshipper]

When qCellbit kept repeating to himself that qRoier "is happy without him" I get the impression that maybe when he saw that qEtoiles was back in purgatory he had the slight illusion that his husband was too, but when faced with reality he just said "I would know if he was here" as if he had the erroneous conclusion that qRoier decided not to come back to purgatory, that he made it through and is now happy wherever he is (And after his talk with pNatalan, I think it just convinced him that if qRoier could fall in love again after his first marriage, he could do it once more with someone who does deserve him)

All these tore my heart to pieces in the same way as when qRoier said that qCellbit abandoned him…..

[guapoduoshipper]

Amaranth flower

I'm not sure if q!Cellbit knows this interesting fact about amaranth flowers (although I wouldn't be surprised if he does) but they are originally from Mexico where, since before the arrival of the Europeans, they were harvested and used to make sweets, food or drinks but, above all, for offerings for rituals in honor of their gods.

It was such a sacred flower that even its name in Nahuatl is: huauhtli which means "the smallest giver of life".

It was such a sacred flower that it even suffered the attempt to be eradicated by the foreigners who, with their very different beliefs, saw it as something profane and impious but, even with all their attempts, the amaranth survived imposing its immortality over all adversities.

It was such a sacred and immortal flower that today we Mexicans know it as "Alegria" ('happiness').

The fact that for q!Cellbit the flower that represents his love for a Mexican is the amaranth speaks to levels much deeper than what can be seen with the naked eye.

[guapoduoshipper]

Me dejó.

After the initial excitement I got from the scene in which q!Roier talked about q!Cellbit to Pepito where he told him that he is also his father and that, despite the circumstances, he has faith that he is still alive, I noticed something (and I saw that other people also noticed): he never mentioned that he had hopes that q!Cellbit will return to the island.

At first I thought it was just that maybe it was implicit in the fact that he had faith that he was well and that he would see him again, but my illusions fell apart after he told Pepito that he "loved" q!Cellbit, conjugating in the past tense. Then it fell like a bucket of cold water, he didn't say it that way because he doesn't feel that love anymore (q!Roier loves q!Cellbit with all his heart) but because he doesn't want that by accepting that he still loves him, that love will become a force against q!Cellbit's decision.

I remembered then that it is not the first time q!Roier does something similar: keeping his feelings to himself to respect q!Cellbit's decision, when he saw him agreeing to marry q!Quackity during Festa Junina's fake weddings, he had already made it clear: I care for your happiness.

q!Roier has listened over and over again to "Que lloro" by Sin Bandera where one of the verses says: "Ya lo entendí, no eres para mí" (I got it, you're not for me).

The negotiation phase of q!Roier's mourning did not focus on holding on to the hope that they will meet again. For q!Roier, it is enough that q!Cellbit is alive.

Because that's all he can do with the limited, almost zero, information he has. It's the only thing he can negotiate: On a hellish island, thousands of miles away from him, without the slightest intention of returning, but alive.

Yes, he had promised to go after him if someone took him away against his will again, but what should or could he do if the one who chose to leave was q!Cellbit himself?, would he still want his husband to find him?

Didn't q!Cellbit himself say "together until the end" before they were thrown into purgatory? Roier ran to the ship with that in mind, credulously thinking that they would meet there after the earthquake and face whatever was next together.

After searching for him inside the ship he realized that q!Cellbit was not there, he began to ask for him more than once. He received no answer. q!Cellbit did not want him to go looking for him. We know it was to protect him. We know it, but q!Roier does not.

Then anger arises, a feeling proper to mourning, the "he left me, he abandoned me". It is not an anger born of hatred. It is an anger born of genuine pain from a wounded love. It IS NOT AND NEVER WILL BE intended to make q!Cellbit a villain in his argument or to invalidate the many, many reasons he may have had for deciding to stay on an island a million times worse than Quesadilla because they are all weighty, they are all justified but, why should q!Roier have to assimilate them just like that without being able to get angry even for a moment? He only knows that he was thrown back into loneliness, thrown by the one who swore to him in his wedding vows that he would never live anything like that again. And even if it was with every intention of saving his life that can't help that it hurts. It can't help but make him feel left out.

It is a natural response that he HAS A RIGHT to as he sees the love of his life left behind, with a high probability of dying, while he is left with no choice but to pick up the pieces that are left of him while everyone, and even his own husband, hopes that one way or another he will manage to move on.

He has the right to because q!Roier, above all else, is only a human, a human who has suffered, who has been betrayed, humiliated and stripped again and again of the people he loves. Seeing how when he seems to finally have happiness in his hands, it slips through his fingers like water. Boiling water that leaves his skin scalded.

[guapoduoshipper]

¿Y yo qué?

I'm genuinely curious about what path q!Roier will take to follow after what we know so far.

He is such a human character that I think he should be allowed not only to feel sad or lonely, but also to feel angry even selfish at least a little (plus we know that he has canonically allowed himself to feel resentful more than once).

He promised his husband that he would look for him and would not rest until he found him, and he is going to keep that promise because above all things he loves him, but wouldn't it be valid for him to feel lost, even abandoned, at first? wouldn't it be legitimate for this to affect his own perception? I think maybe even q!Roier could question his own importance in the eyes of others.

Because, if you think about it, yes, in the end it is always he who sees those he loves leave but it could also seem in his eyes that they decide so:

q!Spreen DECIDED to accept the pact with the devil and betray him. q!Quackity and q!Missa DECIDED not to believe him and take q!Spreen's side without question. Bobby DECIDED not to listen to him and go into the dungeon anyway and now q!Cellbit DECIDED to stay in purgatory, decided not to go with him… DECIDED not to say anything to him, denying him the opportunity to choose whether or not he wanted to follow him wherever that decision would take them.

It could very well be possible that, even if he is tremendously selfish or wrong, he questions if ever someone for the first time in his life will choose him first before anyone or anything else. This of course is not 100% true but he doesn't know that, I speak from what the character can perceive with the information he has. With what he himself has seen: his loved ones CHOOSING to abandon him.

And he would be able to understand all the reasons q!Cellbit had, he can empathize with them, he can even share them but that doesn't make it less painful, that doesn't make it easier to accept. That doesn't take away from the strength of the question that was born from his heart "What about me?" (¿Y yo qué?)

What about me? I'm still here I want to be happy too Look, my love I'm still here

[guapoduoshipper]

I just drop in here, besides to calm M down, to confess that this Spiderbit reunion had been so cold that it had hurt me. I can justify it by saying that I watched it from q!Cellbit's perspective and seeing his reactions to Doied's cold responses really disoriented me and made me forget for a second that that guy was NOT q!Roier.

It was like my ray of sunshine in the middle of the storm when I realized that. It helped me remember that if this Spiderbit reunion was so cold it's because it WASN'T the Spiderbit reunion. That, once again, it will take patience for us to see it happen.

[guapoduoshipper]

q!Cellbit's scope:

I firmly believe that, if we should not underestimate q!Roier much less should we do so with his reformed-criminal husband. At least I don't and, despite my paranoid theories of the code and Spiderman or the issue of q!Roier being a q!Cellbit "weakness" exposed to the public eye, I have one thing clear: If a single hair of q!Roier's is out of its place by the time the night is over, there will be no island from which to contend its presidency.

In Guapoduo we know a phrase that, more than that, has been an oath:

I would kill for you.

And I get chills just remembering how he attacked q!Quackity after he killed q!Roier: "You will regret every hit you gave him" or when he almost killed q!Forever just because his husband asked him to, Without even hesitating..

No candidate should rely on the newlywed, kittenishly in love image that q!Cellbit has radiated in recent days. Not at least if they want to arrive with their two lives intact on Election Day.

[guapoduoshipper]

Now that it is canon that Cucurucho's attack left q!Cellbit with scars, I can't help thinking that, despite being several and terrible, he considers himself someone used to being hurt so he usually dismisses his wounds, but he couldn't help feeling very sad when he discovered the one on q!Roier's chest as he simply doesn't understand how someone could or would want to hurt him.

I think he is that kind of person.

[guapoduoshipper]

"I would kill for you, but never you".

q!Roier's question "And would you kill me?" was never intended to manipulate q!Cellbit now that he knows about his criminal past and I am concerned that there are people who think that.

The last person q!Roier fell in love with yelled "give me the dog or I'll kill you, I have no mercy" before slashing his chest with an axe.

He only wanted a "No" being aware that he might get a "maybe someday."

q!Roier did not expect the answer q!Cellbit gave him.

He had no idea that there was someone who could even kill for him when, before, he was literally sold to the devil.