#like look i know hes a war criminal and whatever but that obviously doesnt matter in comparison to the idea of him GARDENING

[orcelito]

Accidentally watched, um. A lot more of the episode. I now have 3 hours left. I just couldn't stop during the battle!!!! And then there was all the stuff afterwards and then suddenly it was my definite bedtime when I MEANT to go to bed like 3 hours ago. Whoops

[mugentakeda]

WELL. I had an anon that was kindly asking me background info on my oc jiro and whatever he had going on with lu ten. I had the Fawking response all done and had it saved as a draft right. and i just needed to switch it to post but tumblr Wouldnt Let Me (it was saying something "went wrong" idfk) so I deleted the draft and was gonna try posting it again thinking the ask would reappear in my inbox but it DIDNT it just deleted the whole ask along with the draft :((( so i'm just gonna post it all here anyway and hope that the anon sees it fhkdndncmxbc,dndkzhnx

-basic stuff: 27 (<-when he meets lu ten), nonbender (<-doesnt need bending lol)

-finest jewelry maker in the fire nation. he also does metal art like embossing and figures and shit. he collaborates closely with famous potters and tailors in the FN to make stuff for the royal family and their special occasions (like holiday and celebration banquet jewelry and bedazzled outfits and shit). he also works with fire nation theaters, to help with their costumes for their more pricey productions. he's made MANY crowns for the royal family as well.

-oldest of 3 brothers. the business he owns was passed down in the family thru generations. jiro inherited (usurped?) it when he was 23, after he beat his father to death for smacking their mother around. their mother lives with the middle brother and his family on one of the outer FN islands. the youngest is estranged and started his own (less successful) business out of jealousy towards jiro.

-neutral on the war in the same way june the bounty hunter is- money is money to him. and when I say neutral I mean neutral. he obviously doesn't get clients or customers from other nations due to the war but if he did then he'd be more than happy to serve them. but his business still wouldn't be affected no matter the outcome of the war because even without international clients his wallet is thick, so he doesn't really care what the outcome ends up being. he believes a true businessman goes wherever the wind takes him and is good at adapting. not a "stuck in his ways" type of guy. the royal family is his top priority client obviously, but it's simply because they pay the most for the finest pieces. it's not out of any kind of loyalty or patriotism.

-jiro likes material things and having money, but he's genuinely super passionate about his craft and the arts in general. he does a lot of other crimes (<- lol) but counterfeiting isn't one of them. all his products and art are genuine, handcrafted, made to detail. he's probably kinda disgusted by the idea of counterfeit and scamming because he genuinely looks forward to the reaction of his clients when they receive what they paid for. he does the act of service, he gets the praise and the money, he's a happy camper.

-despite all of the above, his demeanor is the definition of greasy and sleazy- but he also can be genuinely suave when he wants. he'll charm the pants off your granny. but not sleazy in the same way zhao is, though (cus zhao is no real charmer lol). cus zhao is high in the navy so he's Very stuck up, and he's also an otl (<-???) ass-kisser. he's a slimy douchebag, but still one that adamantly adheres to and enforces fire nation law. he's a guy that has goals and will do anything to get there. meanwhile jiro, you look at him and you know he does criminal shit. he just gives the danger vibe, and he flaunts it with confidence. and you must reach at least level 4 friend to unlock the gentlemanly, white-knight-syndrome side of jiro.

-what jiro DOES do for criminal activity is that as he has most of all the fire nation nobility and high court (along with the Literal royal family) in his pocket. he has eyes and ears in a LOTTTT of people's business. sensitive business. criminal business. blackmail on top of blackmail. he's only loyal to people he personally gives a shit about, and whatever the people he cares about gives a shit about. he's got the love in his heart to make those extensions because he really is thoughtful in nature. but anything outside of that is not his problem so yes he WILL sell your ass out. the most dependable man in the world if he loves you, but the most venomous, backstabbing scorpion-viper if he doesn't care about you.

-and he doesn't hire goons- the business and its dealings are done all by him, and him alone. so if you air out his business or try to fuck with him, he will show up in your house alone and kill you in the next 24 hours i PROMISE you. preferred form of doing so is beating to death. and them is workers arms baby so you aren't getting out of it alive!!! jiro isn't very tall but he is strong as FUCK. and because of the fact that he knows everybody's dirty laundry he gets away with all of it lol. jiro is not afraid of jackkkkk SHIT (<- which is why he's very dependable if he loves you. he's unflinching and dedicated)

-as for him and lu ten: he and lu ten met by chance (they quite literally ran into each other in the palace and toppled over each other), and ended up being twin flames. lu ten's like the orange cat to jiro's black cat. they balanced each other out and jiro was exactly what lu ten needed at the perfect time. their first date or whatever (Doing An Activity Together) was having lunch and tea together in the palace gardens, and it kinda spurred from there. they spent time together like an old retired couple basically lol??? lunches, dinners, long walks from evening to night, doing their tasks in silence but they're next to each other so it's fun (<-parallel play for adults), sitting on benches for hours and just talking and bird watching. two people with tough jobs, so they sometimes forget to stop and smell the roses, but they reserve time for each other so they can stop and smell the roses together.

-it isn't ALWAYS them acting like a retired old couple though cus like I said jiro is a sleaze bag and a flirt. azula was the only one that really noticed and she was very disgusted by them and would constantly swear lu ten has a thing for losers. but then again she'd claim any person lu ten messes with to be a gross loser so there's that

-as soon as they got close to tension hitting a boiling point the siege situation rolled around (<-AVERAGE COCKBLOCKER IROH MOMENT) and lu ten obviously didn't come back. and jiro never let go of it because of all the "what ifs" and how there was something there that was mutual but it never became official or was put into words. so there's more regret rather than bitterness about lu ten's absence in jiro's life. like "right person, wrong time" trope??? but this is the dai li au so they'll be fine eventually lol

-after lu ten died and ozai took over, jiro was silently cut off from the royal family. ozai didn't directly order that or anything but he didn't commission or hire jiro for anything the way azulon always did. jiro also quietly removed himself from the whole political ring and just focused on his work. didn't have a reason to stop and smell the roses anymore, but the work never quits and the world didn't stop turning

-once azula got old enough to be let loose into the playing field, she hired jiro under the table due to her knowing how close he'd been with lu ten (which makes him someone she felt that she could trust), and he got put back into the political game (<- to everyone elses dismay). since her first rodeo was outside of the fire nation, he became her eyes and ears back home.

-and he wasn't forced by her or intimidated by her- he was brought back to life by finally having a real reason to get back in action again. at first, azula being the kid lu ten personally took care of for the first little portion of her life (<-which is a secret jiro knows from lu ten. azula doesn't know about that, and it's gonna stay that way. it's more to be a driving force for jiro. cus jiro has a "whats yours is mine" mindset when he loves someone. so what lu ten loved, jiro also loves. so whatever azula wants from jiro, jiro will provide it to her.) was what made being her guy so easy, but he ends up taking a genuinely liking to the crazy kid. he feels like they get along pretty well cus they're like-minded when it comes to their methods

[teamironmanforever]

My guess regarding Rhodey now being against the Accords is that he is smart and he knows about accountability but he's kinda following Tony's lead. Tony was already on the fence sbout it in CW but knew if they didnt act now it would be forced in them later when they couldnt get any leverage or push their own deals and says for them but afte CW Tony ess still trying to follow them (per Spider-Man: Homecoming) but he was worn out (Rhodey too probably) and they want Ross out & need Team Cap 1/2

for the big Battle (THANOS) and yes tony still cares about Team Cap and CW was a shitshow but in the end they need The Avengers. Rhodey is a smart man and will back Tony no matter whwt, but even he knew that the current Accords (without the changes) are restrictive and he believes in Tony. And he doesnt blame Sam for his accident it was just a bad call

No but see here’s the thing, and I’m going to break down my answer into parts. 

1) Rhodey’s opinion about the accords in CACW was his own and his was the ONLY opinion out of ALL of them that did not come due to past trauma or emotional baggage. 

Tony, unlike Rhodey, signed the accords partly out of guilt and his PTSD. He saw how much destruction the Avengers caused and that took a huge emotional toll on him. Not to mention, he still blames himself for Ultron so he literally does not believe the concept that his hands are the safest. 

Rhodey on the other hand, however, is a military man, far detached from the Avengers. He wasn’t in AV 1 and he wasn’t really an avenger in AV 2. He is someone that truly believes in accountability, because he has served under a system of accountability his entire life. When the military is deployed, their actions are always followed. If they fuck up, they go to court martial. Not only that, but any military action taken everywhere is judged internationally as well. Wars have been started b/c of invasions. Rhodey knows they can’t do whatever the fuck they wants as superpowered individuals. 

2) Tony isn’t “trying” to follow them. He IS following them because that is international law. You can’t ignore the will of the world, no matter how you personally feel about something. 

Tony has always thought accountability important (more accurately, since IM1). His job is to turn to the UN when it comes to crisis. Also, there isn’t really much of the Avengers left, so there isn’t much to follow either. They’re not really a thing anymore, and Tony knows it. Hence why he has been preparing for an invasion alone. 

3) I would argue he doesn’t want them back. He has had this phone for 2 years, and still refuses to call Steven EVEN when he knows a threat is coming.

 He doesn’t want to see them. He is not on speaking terms with them. He lied and betrayed Tony. They used him for years, and I think he is aware of this. OBVIOUSLY, Tony prefers to keep the world safe over fighting these dudes, but I don’t think he much cares about them at this moment in time. He is not vindictive (he is not actively going after them), but he doesn’t want them anywhere near him, hence why he has isolated himself and gone back to his basis (he goes back to pepper, rhodey, happy, and peter. Those are the only ones allowed in at this point). 

4) We don’t actually know how the current accords look like. 

The russos are fantastic at making movies that showcase just how ignorant they are about international law (and this is coming from a poli-sci & international law student). The accords in the first movie were not fully flushed out, but from what they were, they were not actually all that restrictive. Furthermore, they don’t exactly say how much time has passed. We don’t know if Tony has even had the time to work on them or, if he has, just how much work has been done of them. Yes Team Cap are still fugitives (no surprises there. They are literal wanted criminals/terrorists according to some countries, that doesn’t just go away), but we don’t know how the UN is dealing with the other Avengers. The ones that weren’t convicted. 

ALSO, important to note, Ross shouldn’t/can’t actually speak for the UN. So, Ross being the big government baddie literally makes 0 sense and I have been complaining about this since cacw. He is the US secretary of state. He does not dictate terms to the UN. He can veto shit in the name of the US in the security council, sure, but outside of that, the US doesn’t have the power to dictate terms because there’s another 4 countries with veto power. Furthermore, the avengers are not states, so they technically also don’t even fall under the mandate of the security council which then means another governing body should have been formed to enact the accords AND THE RUSSOS NEVER EXPANDED ON ANY OF THIS. 

5) I agree. I don’t think he blames Sam, but that doesn’t really have anything to do with why i was pissed seeing Rhodey just acting like nothing had happened ;)