#mumbo thinks he's trying to Hint that he's the same bc he's not comfortable with saying it directly
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reasons i cant make jokes about characters' genders: it will not be a joke for very long
#the cryptid speaks#the cryptid speaks in tongues#case in point:#lucky jumbo <3#tbh this is about All versions of luke lucky carder inscryption but just like especially his lj variant that I control the canon to#bc yeah . 'what is luke' / 'doomed thanks for asking' Was a joke . was#i thought about it too much Ok and ive come to the conclusion that guy Does Not have time for a solid gender identity there are Horrors#which Then lead to me thinkin about lj luke and going . ok so he's like joe great thanks for telling me this Now luke#cant believe im adding a gender fic to the lj roster (believes it very much and isnt even really that surprised)#anyways . fic where litch rally the entire hc server cottons on to luke not being cis before he does . bc that's my oblivious blorbo#luke mentions smth to mumbo about it being cool how chill the hermits are with joe's pantheon of pronouns#mumbo thinks he's trying to Hint that he's the same bc he's not comfortable with saying it directly#so mumbo tells boatem and boatem tells everyone else and soon luke's getting multi-pronoun'd#he probably doesnt even notice until someone tries to talk to him about it and he's like . wha#canon luke is adab lj!luke is agahc (assigned gender at hermitcraft)
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-Miguel O'Hara Rant
The weight of the world on his shoulders
OH IT'S TIME
Time to share my thoughts that absolutely nobody asked for

So, Miguel Ohara. What's his deal right? Man singlehandendly caused the whole internet to break and thirst for this unhinged man.
But his character is so much more, complex. GOD it's so hard to even describe it, and that's cool but i see some people already theorizing about "his true intentions".
NOT THAT THE THEORIES AREN'T COOL. But people suddenly expecting for a secret twist that ranks him as the "absolute villain" over the spot is well, somewhat weird to me.
Because the thing is, Miguel is no villain, he's more antagonistic if anything (and YES there's a difference and yes I'll write about it later lmao).
We've grown accustomed to twist villains, so we take any complex character and try to pull a card from under the table (like people expecting Lyla to secretly be the one controlling Miguel's actions and is tricking him or something idk - THE CONCEPT IS AMAZING TO READ ABOUT THOUGH, YOU GO GUYS, YOU ARE AMAZING AND I LOVE Y'ALL).
But the conversartion about Miguel's character starts to drift away a little once the theme starts to be more like: "Omg what if Miguel is brain-washing the other spiders into believing he's a good guy by lying about his story so everyone empathizes with him and they ultimately destroy the spiderverse altogether"
And yes THE DARK! MIGUEL CONCEPT IS AMAZING, I LOVE SEEING THAT MAN UNHINGED AND K WORD EVERYONE AND, YOU GUYS WRITE IT SO GOOD????? I LOVE YOU ALL???????
BUT, i don't think think Miguel is lying, at least not intentionally. If anything, he's lying to himself quite hard.
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There's just something... wrong about his canon theory and "the death of the universe" mumbo jumbo.
1st hint: He blankly compares his own actions; literally TAKING THE IDENTITY OF A DEAD MAN TO RAISE HIS OTHER UNIVERSE'S DAUGHTER MAN WTF, QUITE LITERALLY DISRUPTING THE BALANCE OF THE WORLD BC HELLO YOU'RE SUPOSSED TO BE DEAD HERE-, to the spot attacking Pav's universe.
So, something is definately wrong, right? The movie shows us so. We're basically Miles inside the story, we know that the destruction of Mumbattan started before Miles even disrupted the "canon event", we saw the spot leave one of his portal spot thingies behind to destroy Pav's universe from within. And the way it's happening, looks nothing like Miguel's demonstration of a universe dying.
But Miguel wasn't there with us, he just knows someone disrupted a canon event, and the universe is about to collapse.
Sure, one could say "maybe, it's basically happening because the captain didn't die, maybe it was the spot but still the universe it's disappearing because of it anyway so Miguel is essentially right and -"
AND then it clicks, that's how Miguel is exactly thinking.
It doesn't matter if it's not like how it happened to Gabriella's universe, the universe it's collapsing so it's essentially the same thing, right? And that's exactly how a man with severe "universe collapsing" PTSD would think.

Yes, Miguel is deeply traumatized by the consequences of his actions.
For those that are familiar with his base story. This man has gone through it. But he saw himself; in another life, happy, with a family, he wasn't suffering, he wanted that too, so he took comfort on it, because if a version of you can be happy, well you can at least try, right?
But oh no, the fantasy died, he died. Was he not meant to be hapy? Was every version of himself meant to lose everything and become a tragic tale? Was it really all that's to his story?
So, he holds onto the last piece of hope he had and decides to freaking replace his dead self and raise his alternate reality's daughter.
No shit he caused the universe to collapse, right? He stayed too long (and Miguel might be a Genius and all but not even he can just, stop the order of the universe with a fancy watch), he kept the memory of a dead man quite literally alive. And that cost him EVERYTHING.
And what does he do next? Man just latches onto another safe net: "i changed the canon, so the universe died" <- MAN IS TRYING TO MAKE IT A SPIDERMAN THING.
And yes i might be a little to harsh here but well, he's essentially escaping the full pain of the consequences of his actions
"I may have interefered with a natural force but it was essentially the canon being broken so that must've been it"
WHAT CANON DID YOU EXACTLY BREAK MAN? Was Gabriella meant to grow up and become spider-woman? Was this her uncle ben/being an orphan moment? Was Miguel spiderman there too? Was he meant to die so a new spiderman could take the mantle? Was he not spiderman there? Was there another spiderman/woman in that universe? What did Miguel do for him to assume that he broke "the spiderman canon"?

Well, we don't know.
And he's adamant about not even trying to prove or explain his theory further as well. And he's not going to allow anybody to even try to prove him right or wrong.
2nd hint: Why are the universal effects not the same? If Pav's universe is dying bc of the canon, why was the destruction of it faster than Gabriella's universe? Why didn't Gwen's universe didn't die as soon her father resigned from being a captain? Heck, why didn't Gwen's universe die when she left? She left her universe unprotected, there was no spider-woman there.
But Miguel stands his ground, he's right and everyone else is wrong. Because he needs to be right.
Because if he's not, then he killed an entire universe because of his selfish desires of happiness...something that he doesn't even believe himself to deserve to want.
And that's what makes his story so...deeply tragic and enticing. He's a hurt man that pushes any helping hand away, because his mind and heart are not ready to process the whole weight of what he's feeling.
He has taken control over everyone's story because he desperately needs everything in control. He can't allow another mistake that might lead another universe full of innocent people to disappear.
Conclusion: He sees himself in Miles and he absolutely hates it.
He also knows what it is to want your story to be different, to be willing to do anything to be happy and protect something/someone you care about.
And wouldn't it hurt more if Miles gets his happy ending? If Miles is right and nothing happens after he saves his dad, then the canon is basically a useless theory that he made up to find comfort, and he doomed his daughter's reality because he needed to be happy.
He needs to be right, because if he's not, what else does he have?
"We're supposed to be the good guys"

"We are"
#earth 1610 miles#Miguel O'hara#atsv#across the spiderverse#into the spider verse#thanks for coming to my rant#thanks for coming to my ted talk#THIS IS SO LONG AND IT BASICALLY DOESN'T GO ANYWHERE AND IT DOESN'T MATTER BUT I WANTED TO SHARE IT ALRIGHT?#pavitr my beloved#spider gwen
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