#otacon is in it/programing/not that much changes
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galionne-vibin · 7 months ago
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Bouncing off of this actually, what kind of "normal" jobs would the MGS/R crew be able to hold down?
(They are not allowed to kill anyone and/or use violence. Unless it's part of the job-)
I love "Everyone is okay" Metal Gear Solid AUs with all my heart but they do run into one non-issue that I still find funny ; which is that I really don't believe most of these people can cook. Or keep their living space clean/organized.
Like look me in the eyes and tell me you think Eli Liquid Snake would willingly wash dishes or vacuum his appartment. You're telling me you would trust Fatman to make edible food? Or The Fury?? You really think fucking Raiden knows anything about picking an insurance policy?
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tank-grunt · 5 years ago
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If given the possibility to rewrite some of the things from the psp game (like the whole Dominic and Circe thing), what would you rewrite it into?
ok off the top of my head: roberta never returns to isaac, and isaac is consistently framed as every bit as a bad guy that dominic was. not sure if i think he should be assisting dominic in his plans as the dragon to the big bad or not, or if he’s just doing his own thing that you gotta bust before you take on dominic. but he’s not a good guy and he’s not your friend.
i really don’t like how the game repeatedly tells you in the beginning that isaac is not a good husband to roberta, and she explicitly tells the player character about him acting in a way that is abusive and even though the game won’t use those words, his actions were framed as wrong... until it’s revealed that she was a robot. suddenly dominic’s the REAL bad guy, and isaac was right to behave that way all along! and now you gotta rely on him to save roberta and stop dominic because he’s the otacon to your snake or whateverrrr (rolls my eyes)
so even if you forget for a second that it’s creepy as hell for a dude to build and program a robot that looks, feels, and acts like a woman ... to be his wife, when it’s not like she’s in any position to say no... everything else going on there is fucked up and creepy too. because with the reveal that she's a robot comes the game trying to say that she is allowed to be treated in a way that would absolutely be considered abusive towards any other sapient entity with complex thoughts and emotions - isolating her and controlling her and every other creepy implication of the entire situation - like... you know, a human? which she is intentionally designed to look like? and i’m supposed to just... be ok with it? it’s another form of misogyny in fiction that i just can’t stand.
and i don’t like the fact she gets amnesia so she doesn’t even remember her friendship with the player character, she doesn’t remember ever wanting freedom or realizing that the way he treated her was not ok. and i don’t like the fact it puts her in this weird position where... isaac doesnt need to change. he doesn’t need to start treating her like the human he seemingly wants her to be, and he doesn’t need to apologize for the way his treatment may have hurt her. and he didn’t even really show much sympathy for roberta beyond “oh she’s lonely, i’ll tell someone to be her friend and then do nothing else” - no, they’re in the perfect position for things to continue the way they did before.
they could have written a subplot where isaac decides to start questioning and challening his own mindset that lead to everything that happened - the creation of roberta, and how he treated her afterwards - if they really wanted me to not hate his guts, but the game bent over backwards to justify and excuse anything he did and then just neatly forgot about all of it so i’m plenty mad at how that subplot turned out. 
so anyways, if i had my way he wouldn’t be a character you rely on to progress in the game - and if you’re going to write a character so that they act in such a way that it makes a robot woman want to run away and leave, that is framed as wrong and unhealthy, then you might as well commit to it. no turning back. explore the kind of mindset that results in someone building a realistic robot wife and then controlling and isolating her when she has enough complex thought and emotion to want out of it. and the fact he did it at all means there are lasting consequences for him.
roberta having amnesia i would have been fine with, if not for the fact that she’s back to being trapped in a loveless marriage with a man who isolated and controlled her - the fact that even though you went through all of that effort to save and repair her, she doesn’t remember the bond she had with the player character is bittersweet. i would be fine with that if it meant that even if she doesn’t remember your character, she’s free now and can form bonds with whoever she wants. though ideally, i would like for her to just, run away with the player character and find happiness in freedom with the person who helped her realize that she had a choice in the matter. but whatever
and ummmm. i think would have liked if the game acknowledged that the curious bros are jenny’s baby brothers a little more. maybe not including vidcund accusing lazlo of being a xenophile for hanging out with their sisters husband in the facility theyre effectively trapped in...? that one is really harmless but i just personally found it a bit weird that they acted like pt9 and jenny were complete strangers and not like, their older sister and her husband of 18+ years?
that’s about all i can think of, lol (plus this is also long enough as it is)
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